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03-06-2017, 02:31 PM
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Question: What happens if this relationship ends? Answer: The media are going to have a meltdown.
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03-06-2017, 02:44 PM
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Before said they had finished in December, now they say that body language says Harry is not interested in her. It is so much envy and so much poison that it causes fear. Why would Harry stay with a woman who he was not interested?
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Well that's easy to answer. Meghan is clearly manipulating him, she has been from the beginning. No way would Harry ever be genuinely interested in a woman like her. There is obviously some kind of mind control going on. Never mind that Harry has never seemed like a guy who likes being told what to do. That's the story and I'm sticking to it!
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03-06-2017, 02:44 PM
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Just how much mileage is the DM going to get out of a few pictures and a weekend jaunt to Jamaica? My goodness!
Of the (few) pictures that I have seen of Harry & Meghan, I confess that I do not see the chemistry or connection that I see in pictures of QEII/Philip (as newlyweds), Charles/Camilla, Victoria/Daniel, & Felipe/Letizia to name a few. However, any photo is but a moment in time, and any moment can be a good, bad, or "awkward" one for any number of reasons. Of course, all of the couples I named (except for QEII/Philip as newlyweds) are established couples who have been together for years, so there should be a spark there. But OTOH, a new-ish couple’s sparks should be leaping off the page. Who knows? lol
My gut feeling is that Meghan wants to be a part of the BRF so will stick with this relationship through thick & thin. If Harry wants to marry her also, it will be a done deal & I wish them well.
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03-06-2017, 03:04 PM
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I did not click on the DM article. Do they have new pics? That's all I care about when it comes to the DM.
I have to say that the most interesting thing about the pics to me is that Meghan looks genuinely happy. Despite all the nastiness online and printed in some of the rags, despite her awful half siblings embarrassing her on more than one occasion, she undoubtedly looks like a woman in love. So I can only assume that Harry is doing a lot of things right? lol If we get new pics and Harry isn't smiling in any of them, maybe I will start to see what some others are seeing. But for now, I don't see any reason to read more into a few pics.
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03-06-2017, 03:05 PM
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I saw spark galore with Fergie/Andrew, Prince Joachim and Alexandra Manley, and lately with Louis and Tessy of Luxembourg. It was obvious that they couldn't get enough of one another. Each marriage ended in divorce.
On the other hand, I do not see the same chemistry jumping off the page for the Cambridges but I suspect they are deeply committed to their marriage for life, and will probably go the distance as have HM and the DoE.
"Chemistry" in photos can occasionally be a clue that the couple is the real deal or it could clue nothing except that the couple are really hot for one another, put bluntly.
I would not try to gauge the temperature of the Harry/Meghan connection by how tactile or starry eyed they seem in photos. Maybe Harry was tired or hungover? Maybe Megan's shoes hurt?
The fact that they went to Jamaica for a a friend's location wedding...as a couple no less...speaks volumes imo.
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03-06-2017, 03:16 PM
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Same was said about his brother and sister-in-law back in the day. I hope everyone realize we're living the same experience over, just with another royal couple.
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03-06-2017, 03:27 PM
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Same was said about his brother and sister-in-law back in the day. I hope everyone realize we're living the same experience over, just with another royal couple.
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Dman, this is probably the 20th time you've mentioned the Cambridges when discussing Meghan and Harry.
Every time something even remotely negative is said about Meghan you drag up Catherine.
Wiliam and Catherine dated for 8 years, have been married for 6 and have 2 children. Nothing at all like Harry and his 8 months long relationship with Meghan
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03-06-2017, 03:32 PM
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Oh for pete sake!! Now some are taking the word of the DM's so-called body language expert because Harry isn't smiling in some pictures?
Why can't you all just be happy for Harry and leave some of this stuff alone? If it's not one extreme it's another!
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03-06-2017, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudolph
Dman, this is probably the 20th time you've mentioned the Cambridges when discussing Meghan and Harry.
Every time something even remotely negative is said about Meghan you drag up Catherine.
Wiliam and Catherine dated for 8 years, have been married for 6 and have 2 children. Nothing at like Harry and his 8 months long relationship with Meghan
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I'm only referring back to the Cambridge's, because I've been a royal watcher for a long time now. The experience of watching these couples courtships isn't all that pleasant. Yes, there's some good days and pictures, but the years of speculations aren't different from each other nor unique.
A lot of what's being said has been said before. Especially the article about the couple being "next" to get married after they attended the wedding this weekend.
Now, there's a DM article about an "expert" saying that the couple appear distant. None of this stuff is new, Rudolph. It's just being applied to Harry and Meghan.
Recycled debates and recycled articles.
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03-06-2017, 03:53 PM
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I'm waiting for the article w/ the lip readers  like they had @ W&K's wedding.
Funny bit about Harry moon walking into a waitress w/ a tray of drinks - I chuckle when I visualize that scene. Based on what I saw online of his dancing in Croatia, I can't say I'm surprised  . It's just so iconic, British guy tries to bust out some dance moves & fails.
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03-06-2017, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dman
I'm only referring back to the Cambridge's, because I've been a royal watcher for a long time now. The experience of watching these couples courtships isn't all that pleasant. Yes, there's some good days and pictures, but the years of speculations aren't different from each other nor unique.
A lot of what's being said has been said before. Especially the article about the couple being "next" to get married after they attended the wedding this weekend.
Now, there's a DM article about an "expert" saying that the couple appear distant. None of this stuff is new, Rudolph. It's just being applied to Harry and Meghan.
Recycled debates and recycled articles.
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It's Harry and Meghan's turn.
Harry went through it with Chelsy and he went through it with Cressida. Now it's Meghan who must face the slings and arrows.
We know all couples go through it, but this is a thread about Harry's relationships, not a contrast and compare thread with the Cambridges.
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03-06-2017, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by American Observer7
Oh for pete sake!! Now some are taking the word of the DM's so-called body language expert because Harry isn't smiling in some pictures?
Why can't you all just be happy for Harry and leave some of this stuff alone? If it's not one extreme it's another!
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Just a comment but it seems at the wedding itself they attracted attention that might have been uncomfortable. The preacher announced they would be next. There where photos taken of them within the wedding....in fact in the DM there is a photo of MM turning away or ducking from the camera. I'm sure all that unwanted attention especially at a friends wedding is upsetting...not to mention the paparazzi. Someone also mentioned that a friend of Cressida or also works for the DM was there. There where plenty of people who could of observed them privately and they mention no awkwardness at the private parties/events.
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03-06-2017, 04:14 PM
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Body language experts often rave about the stance of celebrities who usually break up soon afterwards. I remember a body language 'expert' analysing a photo of Harry and Chelsy Davy standing looking at the boxing at Boodles Ball in about 2008. She emphasised how comfortable they were together, how the two of them 'synchronised'. By 2009 they were broken up and their romance (always tumultuous) was never truly mended ever again.
This particular language 'expert' seems to have concentrated on a few photos while Harry/Meghan were moving through the crowd outside the wedding chapel. How do we know what was happening? Harry could have been looking for the car to take them away to the hotel and just responding momentarily to greetings from acquaintances he hadn't seen for a while.
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03-06-2017, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Curryong
Body language experts often rave about the stance of celebrities who usually break up soon afterwards. I remember a body language 'expert' analysing a photo of Harry and Chelsy Davy standing looking at the boxing at Boodles Ball in about 2008. She emphasised how comfortable they were together, how the two of them 'synchronised'. By 2009 they were broken up and their romance (always tumultuous) was never truly mended ever again.
This particular language 'expert' seems to have concentrated on a few photos while Harry/Meghan were moving through the crowd outside the wedding chapel. How do we know what was happening? Harry could have been looking for the car to take them away to the hotel and just responding momentarily to greetings from acquaintances he hadn't seen for a while.
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The photos were pretty simple- the two of them enjoying some conversations and each other at the wedding celebrations. The problem is people are looking for the couple to be completely lovey dovey at all times to prove something to them. No one on planet earth conducts themselves in such a manner.
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03-06-2017, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23
I saw spark galore with Fergie/Andrew, Prince Joachim and Alexandra Manley, and lately with Louis and Tessy of Luxembourg. It was obvious that they couldn't get enough of one another. Each marriage ended in divorce.
On the other hand, I do not see the same chemistry jumping off the page for the Cambridges but I suspect they are deeply committed to their marriage for life, and will probably go the distance as have HM and the DoE.
"Chemistry" in photos can occasionally be a clue that the couple is the real deal or it could clue nothing except that the couple are really hot for one another, put bluntly. 
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You raise good points, and I guess I agree to an extent. Though I will say that I never thought William and Kate looked uncomfortable around each other the way Harry *seems* to look uncomfortable around Meghan in some of those photos...just that William and Kate didn't appear to have much passion.
Also, of the couples you mentioned who divorced, Andrew and Sarah are still together in some form, though the other two are divorced/divorcing. Harry and Chelsy seemed, to me, to have the most chemistry of all Harry's relationships, and though they broke up, I'm not sure it was because of lack of compatibility or Chelsey's lack of interest in becoming a member of the royal family. On the other hand, I think there are some photos of Charles and Diana before their engagement that show some awkwardness, and though they married, it wasn't a happy marriage.
So to sum it up, I think you can't tell everything about a relationship by looking at body language, but you can often get clues. We'll have to see any more photos of Harry and Meghan that turn up...
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The photos were pretty simple- the two of them enjoying some conversations and each other at the wedding celebrations. The problem is people are looking for the couple to be completely lovey dovey at all times to prove something to them. No one on planet earth conducts themselves in such a manner.
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True - what I noticed was that Meghan was being very physically affectionate with Harry, but he didn't seem to be reciprocating.
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03-06-2017, 05:07 PM
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Oh for pete sake!! Now some are taking the word of the DM's so-called body language expert because Harry isn't smiling in some pictures?
Why can't you all just be happy for Harry and leave some of this stuff alone? If it's not one extreme it's another!
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Absolutely no one here is taking the word of the DM's body language experts. In fact, it looks more like people are mocking the DM... because it's the DM.
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03-06-2017, 05:11 PM
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True - what I noticed was that Meghan was being very physically affectionate with Harry, but he didn't seem to be reciprocating.
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They were holding hands. Also, Harry isn't going to invite Meghan to his friends wedding as his guest and ignore her or treat her badly. He's a bit older and a bit more mature than he was in previous relationships.
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03-06-2017, 06:27 PM
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Or the paps decided not to post those pictures, because they don't suit their story of a displeased Harry.
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03-06-2017, 06:30 PM
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You raise good points, and I guess I agree to an extent. Though I will say that I never thought William and Kate looked uncomfortable around each other the way Harry *seems* to look uncomfortable around Meghan in some of those photos...just that William and Kate didn't appear to have much passion.
Also, of the couples you mentioned who divorced, Andrew and Sarah are still together in some form, though the other two are divorced/divorcing. Harry and Chelsy seemed, to me, to have the most chemistry of all Harry's relationships, and though they broke up, I'm not sure it was because of lack of compatibility or Chelsey's lack of interest in becoming a member of the royal family. On the other hand, I think there are some photos of Charles and Diana before their engagement that show some awkwardness, and though they married, it wasn't a happy marriage.
So to sum it up, I think you can't tell everything about a relationship by looking at body language, but you can often get clues. We'll have to see any more photos of Harry and Meghan that turn up...
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Yes, body language can be very hit or miss without knowing all the outside factors but it can sometimes give a lot of insight. I remember the last photo of Pippa and Nico. He was showing her PDA and beaming at her, in return her body was more stiff and closed-off. She wasn't really reciprocating and looked a little disinterested.
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03-06-2017, 07:07 PM
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You raise good points, and I guess I agree to an extent. Though I will say that I never thought William and Kate looked uncomfortable around each other the way Harry *seems* to look uncomfortable around Meghan in some of those photos...just that William and Kate didn't appear to have much passion.
Also, of the couples you mentioned who divorced, Andrew and Sarah are still together in some form, though the other two are divorced/divorcing. Harry and Chelsy seemed, to me, to have the most chemistry of all Harry's relationships, and though they broke up, I'm not sure it was because of lack of compatibility or Chelsey's lack of interest in becoming a member of the royal family. On the other hand, I think there are some photos of Charles and Diana before their engagement that show some awkwardness, and though they married, it wasn't a happy marriage.
So to sum it up, I think you can't tell everything about a relationship by looking at body language, but you can often get clues. We'll have to see any more photos of Harry and Meghan that turn up...
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Harry and Chelsy were two young adults who hadn't yet become wary of all the media attention and scrutiny. I think the fact that we saw more of their chemistry on display speaks more to that than anything about the relationship itself. Harry was simply at a different stage of his life than he is now. He's a man in his 30s who has talked about wanting a wife and kids, so of course it makes sense that he's not as open and carefree as he was during a relationship where he wasn't yet thinking about those things.
Lets also remember that just early last year Harry talked about all the attention, how he affects his relationships and how he would make sure that he and the woman he's dating are comfortable with each other before her privacy is invaded. I think it's safe to assume that he and Meghan have reached that point.
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