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Old 01-23-2017, 09:36 PM
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The British Royal family is an entirely different animal than the Scandinavian Houses, though - it's the most famed, most visible Royal house in the world. Every single one of the women you mentioned could walk down High Street unnoticed - the same cannot be said for Kate Middleton, for example. The level of scrutiny that senior royals face is unparralleled. And while it's true that no one knows exactly why Harry's last two relationships fell apart, it's clear that Cressida and Chelsy were both very unhappy with the press scrutiny that came with being with Harry. The Telegraph UK (I think) reported that right after the Cressida break up, members of the press were invited to a meet with Harry's aides - he wanted advice on how to better navigate the media exposure/personal relationship equation. That says volumes imo about the pressure the media brings to bear on Harry's private life.

I'm not saying that Harry's status makes romance impossible - just very, very difficult.
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"They've kept to themselves and have kept their relationship private and its driving people crazy"

Apart from some people on this forum I don't think many care what their doing. At first it was all exciting who is she what does she do etc but I think now most people think there are much more important things happening. Unless there is an engagement I don't think anyone much is going crazy.


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The crazy is mostly at the DM. I think the more Harry immerses himself in work the less obsessive the tabloids will be. The tabloids just want content so the more content they get focusing on Harry's wonderful projects the less rabid attention will be put on dissecting Meghan, her family or their relationship.
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:46 PM
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You would think the press would give him a break. Of course they won't get total privacy and that was not the reason for the statement. But the complete overreaction has been bonkers. If Meghan is his non-negotiable I hope they can weather the storm. If there is someone else for Harry I hope they know all that they are in for. I suspect that Harry and Meghan will do what alot of famous couples do and just totally retract from the public and go totally underground so that the press will start wondering if they are still together......just hit the reset button.
A part of me thinks he issued that statement as a show of solidarity - aside from the dog whistle racism, the press had tried to link some of Meghan's scenes on Suits to a porn site and I guess that was the last straw. I just have this sense that he wanted her (and the rest of the world) to know that he he's got her back. And I think it was a lovely thing to do. I'm with you: If Meghan's the right one, then I do hope they can make a go of it.
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:59 PM
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I think they're trying to make a good go at it, so they're trying to keep things private. I do wonder if they'll make a big public appearance this year though? With the social season around the corner...polo, football games etc.
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A part of me thinks he issued that statement as a show of solidarity - aside from the dog whistle racism, the press had tried to link some of Meghan's scenes on Suits to a porn site and I guess that was the last straw. I just have this sense that he wanted her (and the rest of the world) to know that he he's got her back. And I think it was a lovely thing to do. I'm with you: If Meghan's the right one, then I do hope they can make a go of it.
I agree the reaction was totally crazy and I'm sure when Meghan saw how her mother was being attacked she was highly upset, I was upset for her. Likewise I think that Harry had flashbacks to his childhood and his mother, also while his former relationships did not end just because of the media, the media certainly did not help and made things worst. Ultimately I root for Harry to find the happiness that he wants out of life.
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:17 PM
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I think they're trying to make a good go at it, so they're trying to keep things private. I do wonder if they'll make a big public appearance this year though? With the social season around the corner...polo, football games etc.
Yes, Meghan has gone way underground. It's been over a month since she's posted anything to her personal Instagram. So maybe they're trying to keep things as private as they can.
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:24 PM
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"When", not "if"???????

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When they break up she will be forever known as Prince Harry's former girlfriend.
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:25 PM
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Well, I suppose you'd have to ask Crown Princess Mary of Denmark (real estate and conveyencing) Queen Maxima of the Netherlands (International banking) Sophie of Wessex who had her own PR firm, Queen Mathilde of Belgium (speech therapist) and Queen Letizia of Spain (journalist and high profile news anchor) that question. Also Grace Kelly had a huge stellar career as an actress, which she gave up. I guess they all fell in love, wanted to marry, and also thought they just might be able to make a difference to people's lives by adopting various charities and causes within their husband's country..
Agree. Of course there are real, life-altering burdens that come with marrying a royal and it's understandable if any woman wouldn't want to endure it all. But I don't think its hard to see why a career woman would marry a royal. There's more to life than just one particular career. Falling in love, starting a family, exploring new possibilities and opportunities are just as (if not more) important to some women. And I think that will be the case with Meghan if ever her and Harry decided to marry.

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I think they're trying to make a good go at it, so they're trying to keep things private. I do wonder if they'll make a big public appearance this year though? With the social season around the corner...polo, football games etc.
I recently saw one of the lead actors for Suits tweet that they'll start filming the new season in April. So that leaves February/March for them to maybe make an appearance or two together and then most likely, the summer when Meghan gets another break from filming. (Although it's possible they could make an appearance together during a break in her shooting schedule.)
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:35 PM
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I recently saw one of the lead actors for Suits tweet that they'll start filming the new season in April. So that leaves February/March for them to maybe make an appearance or two together and then most likely, the summer when Meghan gets another break from filming. (Although it's possible they could make an appearance together during a break in her shooting schedule.)

February/March is when Suits is airing, so Meghan's very likely going to have obligations regarding promoting the show at that time.

I'm actually fairly interested in seeing just how she's going to balance promoting the show while keeping her personal life private. I think that's going to be the next serious test to their relationship.
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:47 PM
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I'm actually fairly interested in seeing just how she's going to balance promoting the show while keeping her personal life private. I think that's going to be the next serious test to their relationship.
I think she may find it easier than we think she might. She is already well adjusted to switching between "Rachel" and "Meghan" and I would imagine that when promoting the show, she'd do it mostly with a "Rachel" mindset and focus on the show with everything else that is "Meghan" off limits. A skilled actor or actress can do that better than other people with no acting abilities.
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:01 AM
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I think she may find it easier than we think she might. She is already well adjusted to switching between "Rachel" and "Meghan" and I would imagine that when promoting the show, she'd do it mostly with a "Rachel" mindset and focus on the show with everything else that is "Meghan" off limits. A skilled actor or actress can do that better than other people with no acting abilities.

I'm not sure if it's so much a "Rachel" vs "Meghan" mindset... "Rachel" is the fictional person, and to some degree it always seems like actors try to distance themselves from their characters; if you look at how they answer questions about the show it's always "my character," or "character's name", not so much "I."

To me it's more... there's "Rachel" the fictional character, then "Meghan the Actress" who needs to promote her show, and "Meghan the Royal Girlfriend" who needs to keep her personal life private.

We know Meghan has had issues in the past with fans of the show not distinguishing between "Rachel" and "Meghan the Actress". And it looks like she's had to struggle with maintaining a public persona as "Meghan the Actress" and "Meghan the Royal Girlfriend" - why else would she go from almost daily postings on social media to a near blackout.

Suits is back this weekend, and looking at the twitter feeds of her co-stars, they're all starting to promote the show again, but Meghan's still remaining silent. I can't imagine that she isn't contracted to promote the show for the rest of the season. That's very likely to include at least some two shows, interviews, etc.
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:06 AM
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February/March is when Suits is airing, so Meghan's very likely going to have obligations regarding promoting the show at that time.

I'm actually fairly interested in seeing just how she's going to balance promoting the show while keeping her personal life private. I think that's going to be the next serious test to their relationship.
I don't think she'll be doing *that* much promotion. The second half of this season only has 5 or 6 episodes. She'll still have quite a bit of free time.

I don't see why it'll be hard for her to balance the two. If she's asked about Harry she could simply say she's not interested in discussing her private life, if she doesn't make it clear beforehand.

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I'm not sure if it's so much a "Rachel" vs "Meghan" mindset... "Rachel" is the fictional person, and to some degree it always seems like actors try to distance themselves from their characters; if you look at how they answer questions about the show it's always "my character," or "character's name", not so much "I."

To me it's more... there's "Rachel" the fictional character, then "Meghan the Actress" who needs to promote her show, and "Meghan the Royal Girlfriend" who needs to keep her personal life private.

We know Meghan has had issues in the past with fans of the show not distinguishing between "Rachel" and "Meghan the Actress". And it looks like she's had to struggle with maintaining a public persona as "Meghan the Actress" and "Meghan the Royal Girlfriend" - why else would she go from almost daily postings on social media to a near blackout.

Suits is back this weekend, and looking at the twitter feeds of her co-stars, they're all starting to promote the show again, but Meghan's still remaining silent. I can't imagine that she isn't contracted to promote the show for the rest of the season. That's very likely to include at least some two shows, interviews, etc.
The show is well into its 6th season. It won't suffer because Meghan isn't tweeting about it. In fact, she's already given the show tons of publicity with the news of her dating Harry. She may do a few interviews and tweet about it in the next day or so. We will see.

I'm not sure it's wise to assume she's struggled with maintaining a public persona. She may have simply decided it was best for her to post less on social media at this point.
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:23 AM
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I think the element that will be harder for her is if she does any further work with Reitmans. With Suits, there's a whole cast of people to spread the promotion around. If she wants to, or is contracted to, do another capsule collection, it's all on her. In a way, a fashion line is also more commercial than promoting a show.
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:39 AM
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A reitmans collection won't suffer either way. Reitmans is not the kind of store you go to for the hottest trend. It's an affordable store in al oust every mall, that has plus size clothes as well. It draws I'm a certain crowd of people. The celebrity watchers are not likely to shop there unless they normally do. They are more likely to want to dress like her than wear a label with her name. There may be a slight increase in sales becayse of Harry, but the line will do well with or without her going another commercial for it.
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Old 01-24-2017, 07:44 AM
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A reitmans collection won't suffer either way. Reitmans is not the kind of store you go to for the hottest trend. It's an affordable store in al oust every mall, that has plus size clothes as well. It draws I'm a certain crowd of people. The celebrity watchers are not likely to shop there unless they normally do. They are more likely to want to dress like her than wear a label with her name. There may be a slight increase in sales becayse of Harry, but the line will do well with or without her going another commercial for it.
I wasn't talking about whether the line would do well or not, but about whether she could fulfill the commitment (which would include promotion) without attracting massive criticism.
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Old 01-24-2017, 08:42 AM
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I wasn't talking about whether the line would do well or not, but about whether she could fulfill the commitment (which would include promotion) without attracting massive criticism.
I can't think of any reason she would be criticized for doing any kind of promotional work whether it be Suits or her clothing designs or anything else for that matter up to until perhaps an engagement announcement and publicly affiliating herself with the British royal family.

Perhaps if this relationship grows serious, any contracts or commitments Meghan has made would be taken into consideration by the couple and worked out before any engagement would be announced.

Until there's an engagement or a marriage, she has no official ties to the British royal family and by just dating Harry, it by no means should curtail anything she's involved with just because some people might "talk" and raise eyebrows or whatever.

With the Daily Mail having headlines such as "Meghan Markle stuns in a bridal gown on Suits", its the media itself that is insinuating something here with perhaps it has something to do with Harry which is certainly doesn't. The script calling for a bridal gown for Rachel and the storyline about her love interest was probably written long before Meghan even met Harry. It would only be tabloids of this ilk that would criticize any venture Meghan does up until something becomes "official" and she'd be reflecting the royal family and the "Firm" by commercial ventures.
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Old 01-24-2017, 08:50 AM
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If thats the case then I can't see why any self-respecting woman with a career would marry a royal :/

It all depends on priorities.

I'm not sure, but it seems to me that Meghan is more interested in her charity work than in her acting.
If that's the case, she would have a much broader platform as Harry's wife than she would as an actress, however well-known.

(It's been mentioned that she would not be allowed to express her views openly, but I think that's incorrect. The Queen, for example, has methods of making her wishes known without saying so outright).
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Old 01-24-2017, 09:40 AM
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It all depends on priorities.

I'm not sure, but it seems to me that Meghan is more interested in her charity work than in her acting.
If that's the case, she would have a much broader platform as Harry's wife than she would as an actress, however well-known.

(It's been mentioned that she would not be allowed to express her views openly, but I think that's incorrect. The Queen, for example, has methods of making her wishes known without saying so outright).
She could express opinions, ie William and Charles are very vocal re environment and Harry speaks out for wounded veterans. What Harry cannot do is speak out on Government support of veterans. Thats political.

So no member of the BRF can speak out in any way they please - there are constraints.
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What she posts and thinks yes, a woman who supports sanitation, education and health for women and children in third world countries, who could want that in a royal. I mean if she insists on posting,meant she post about purses and dinner parties and floral arrangements

She is an actress and ambassador. Being on social media is part of her career and work. There is nothing in her posts inappropriate or embarrassing for Harry or his family. And at no time does she discus him or their relationship.

This recent post you dis is about a letter about ending poverty for women

https://mobile.twitter.com/meghanmarkle?lang=en

And if the misdeeds of family stopped a girlfriend, not sure we would have any royal brides. Maybe Sophie as her family has been quiet. Certainly Diana, Fergie, Kate, Philip, and Camilla would not make the list.

People tend to forget, that she is an American and has the RIGHT not only to voice her thoughts on HER OWN GOVERMENT. She did not say anything mean or vulgar. Like you stated, she has had a voice prior to her new boyfriend, this is what some of the Marches mean. Stand up & be heard. Women should be more than just a Fashion model & Baby making machine.
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Regardless of the state of her fame and fortune due to her career, one thing stands out for me. She was successful on her own merits before Harry came into the picture and should the relationship fizzle out, she'll be comfortable enough in her own skin to continue to live her life on her own merits without him. She doesn't need Harry to make or break her in her place in the world.

Perhaps this is what Harry admires about her. He has a woman that has built up her life how she wants it to be, has taken on causes and issues and charitable works because she wants to and shares things in common with Harry. He's met a woman that sees Harry the man and not Harry the prince with a huge bank account. Every person who has wanted a strong, loving relationship wants that special someone that sees them for who they are and not the outer trappings.

What points this out so much for me is the fact that the few and far between reports that we've been able to establish as fact show that this isn't a couple that relishes living the high life with glitzy $5K a night hotel rooms, being out and being seen with the top A-listers or reports of expensive gifts of cars, jewels and over the top trinkets but a couple that are more the "just the two of us in some remote place" or staying in playing with dogs and cooking their own food and just focusing on each other.

They've kept to themselves and have kept their relationship private and its driving people crazy. They've also continued to live their public lives and do what they do knowing they don't have to gush publicly about each other or be in each other's back pockets all the time. If there is any woman in this world that could love Harry and take him as he is with all that come with him, I think Meghan is a pretty good contender for that role. However, it is up to them to decide. I'll just watch from the sidelines and wish them well.
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