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Old 06-04-2016, 07:22 PM
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My opinion is not based on Harry hugging Elizabeth... as a matter of fact, this did not factor... I have a research background and do know about non-verbal communication and body language... I will not elaborate...

I however believe that Elizabeth has been the closest "fit" I have seen. Period. Harry will get married, eventually. What people fail to recognise is that Harry is now a 31 year old ex-soldier / and businessman running a number of charities and organisations. Can you see him - in his position - NOW, not 3 years ago when he was with Cressida or 8 years ago with Chelsy?? He needs a self-assured, WOMAN with gravitas who can stand next to him or support him with confidence and when necessary is able to hold her own dealing with the public and the press.

Regarding Cressida, without knowing her personally, (maybe there is someone lurking who does) my opinion is quite clinical, and IMO this is a car crash waiting to happen, a la Sarah Ferguson. Yes, she is probably more media savvy now, based on her present vocation as an actress, socialite, regular London Fashion Week FROW attendee. Firstly I believe that she is sadly lacking in gravitas, and emotional stability. Secondly, no matter how you wish to frame it, your upbringing does have an impact on your ability to establish stable relationships. If neither party has a benchmark, foundation or compass of sorts - where the norm has been relationships which are loose and /or transient, then IMO, you are already on the back foot... and let's face it, maybe that's why she appears to be emotionally fragile. Who can forget the public meltdown she had 2 years ago? so much so that she needed to take compassionate leave from her job?? that's crazy!!! Do you actually believe that someone with that sort of temperament will be able to handle the pressures of being the wife of a Senior member of the RF... well, this is my opinion. But Harry will make his choice, eventually.

I am a firm believer that things will always work out in the long run. Charles eventually married Camilla; Ann eventually found someone she settled with. The only relationship which has been solid from the beginning is Edward and Sophie... both from stable family units... IMO
Yes Harry is 31 and a soldier. And so far the only thing we have is a picture of a hug, and you stating 'she is a soldier, she has something in common'. Well so do thousands of other female soldiers. If you are going to brag you have this great insider information, better have more to share.
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Old 06-04-2016, 08:02 PM
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My opinion is not based on Harry hugging Elizabeth... as a matter of fact, this did not factor... I have a research background and do know about non-verbal communication and body language... I will not elaborate...

I however believe that Elizabeth has been the closest "fit" I have seen. Period. Harry will get married, eventually. What people fail to recognise is that Harry is now a 31 year old ex-soldier / and businessman running a number of charities and organisations. Can you see him - in his position - NOW, not 3 years ago when he was with Cressida or 8 years ago with Chelsy?? He needs a self-assured, WOMAN with gravitas who can stand next to him or support him with confidence and when necessary is able to hold her own dealing with the public and the press.

Regarding Cressida, without knowing her personally, (maybe there is someone lurking who does) my opinion is quite clinical, and IMO this is a car crash waiting to happen, a la Sarah Ferguson. Yes, she is probably more media savvy now, based on her present vocation as an actress, socialite, regular London Fashion Week FROW attendee. Firstly I believe that she is sadly lacking in gravitas, and emotional stability. Secondly, no matter how you wish to frame it, your upbringing does have an impact on your ability to establish stable relationships. If neither party has a benchmark, foundation or compass of sorts - where the norm has been relationships which are loose and /or transient, then IMO, you are already on the back foot... and let's face it, maybe that's why she appears to be emotionally fragile. Who can forget the public meltdown she had 2 years ago? so much so that she needed to take compassionate leave from her job?? that's crazy!!! Do you actually believe that someone with that sort of temperament will be able to handle the pressures of being the wife of a Senior member of the RF... well, this is my opinion. But Harry will make his choice, eventually.

I am a firm believer that things will always work out in the long run. Charles eventually married Camilla; Ann eventually found someone she settled with. The only relationship which has been solid from the beginning is Edward and Sophie... both from stable family units... IMO
I mean if your opinion isn't based on that, then the media certainly gave folks the impression that its what the opinions of a romance was based on. Maybe it's because kirstie Ennis another amputee vet was shipped with harry as well over a hug. In fact some have known the similarities between both vets to know that Liz is just another gf candidate like Ennis, that has a significant other. Neither should have to be taken seriously by every poster here because this is a forum where each member is entitled to their very own opinion. No need to be feeling attacked personally. Its interesting to agree to disagree.
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Old 06-04-2016, 08:03 PM
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I don't have a horse running in this race. It would be great if Harry could date Elizabeth, or find a soldier like her, brave, efficient, hard working. However, if it is to be Elizabeth, and there's no evidence that it is, other than she and Harry liking each other when they met at the IG, then this is going to be a very long distance relationship.

Admittedly, Harry had one before with Chelsy, many moons ago, and there were many problems attached to the arrangement, as we know. These two very young people spent months apart and did a lot of flying, spending holidays together. Whether Harry at 31 and Elizabeth at her age would be prepared to do that with their lifestyles as they are now is doubtful, IMO. However I could be wrong. I've been so before!

As for Cress, I've said before and am sticking to it for now, that ship has sailed IMO. Whatever broke them up, (and though I'm a terrific Harry fan I think it was his attitude of 'drop everything you're doing, we have to go to...' in this instance, 'Guy's wedding' that probably caused a cataclysmic quarrel and break-up) I think the same problems would be there if they resumed dating.

It would be far better for Harry, I think, to choose someone who (a) works solidly and well at a career and profession and (b) knows at least something of how the BRF operates, so she could blend into that world and (c) most important of all, love and be loyal to Harry for the rest of their lives. It would be great if she came from a stable background, but it's not essential.

Where Harry is to find such a phenomenon I don't know. Up to now his serious romances have been with free-spirited girls who didn't want Royal life. My fear is that, as he gets into his thirties he will just 'settle' as his father did in 1981, and not be wholeheartedly into the marriage.

By the way, I tend to think that the way you approach marriage and commitment is the most important component in a stable union. If you leave the royals for a minute and look at the Spencers, Diana's generation split two-two. Born from a marriage that ended in a nasty split and divorce, Jane and Sarah have had marriages lasting decades. Earl Spencer is on his fourth marriage, (fidelity anyone?) and we know what happened to Diana.
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Old 06-04-2016, 10:29 PM
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Diana and Charles were very young when they lost their mother, Jane and Sarah were already in school. And both Sarah Ferguson and her sister ate divorced. Princess Margaret was divoreced but I believe both her children are still married.
I also get a Fergie vibe from Cressida but I have no explanation for it but why is she even up for discussion? Haven't they been over and done for 3 years?
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Old 06-04-2016, 10:37 PM
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Actually, there has been no one that's come to the forefront that I think Harry would get serious about. I still think what that man needs is a good dog. Dogs are such an excellent judge of character so Harry would have his own personal screening department.
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Old 06-04-2016, 10:50 PM
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He has gone way down the list aftwr,George and Charlotte. He is only 31, I see no rush I the matter.
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Old 06-05-2016, 01:40 AM
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I've edited a few posts. Please remember to be respectful to your fellow members. Also, Harry and Cressida's upbringing is not what this thread about. Let's try and keep it on Harry and his relationships.
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Old 06-05-2016, 02:22 AM
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As you know, I am rooting for Harry and Elizabeth - big time.
I follow her on Insta and was surprised to see her comment.
Quote: "defiantly not married love. divorced."


Harry and Elizabeth Pelly follow her. she does not seem to follow them back (I am new to Insta so please feel free to correct me if it is the other way around).
He does not follow Kirstie

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That's a bit of a strange thing to decide to do! A bit of an inappropriate channel!

This is an article about Elizabeth and the man who is, or was, her 'man-mountain' husband.


Who is Elizabeth Marks? Beautiful US soldier who kissed Prince Harry has mystery illness and man-mountain husband - Mirror Online

I agree She was responding to guy who asked if she is single and suggesting she and Harry should do something about it. I thought it was not necessary to answer him.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:26 AM
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If and when Harry is dating someone, I sincerely hope that the media and sources providing information to the media will leave them well alone to establish the basis for a possible long-term relationship.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:02 AM
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"Countmeout: Yes Harry is 31 and a soldier. And so far the only thing we have is a picture of a hug, and you stating 'she is a soldier, she has something in common'. Well so do thousands of other female soldiers. If you are going to brag you have this great insider information, better have more to share."
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Actually, I do not and have NEVER stated that I have insider information. I have stated my opinion, as everyone else does, and I also do this from a professional perspective. The only "hug picture" of significance to me, is the one of PHarry greeting her with a kiss at the Rugby match. I will not expand on anything else.

Think you may be confusing me with someone else, you are attributing other people's comments to me -- 'she is a soldier, she has something in common' -- sorry, not me, didn't post that.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:26 AM
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"Mrs Littrell: I follow her on Insta and was surprised to see her comment.
Quote: "defiantly not married love. divorced."
Obviously I have a picture of comments as well

Harry and Elizabeth Pelly follow her. she does not seem to follow them back (I am new to Insta so please feel free to correct me if it is the other way around).
He does not follow Kirstie"

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I also follow her on Insta but haven't seen that comment about being divorced... I have seen Elizabeth Pelly following her but very much doubt Sgt Marks even knows who she is. So I don't see why she would follow her.

Lizzypelly's account is private - I have sent a follow request to her but very much doubt that she will respond. I have not been able to identify PHarry on Insta.
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:46 AM
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I've looked up all her posts from the week before invictus till now, and have never found a divorce statement on her ig. There is also a rumor she announced that on an ig harry fan page yesterday. Can't tell who's right or wrong.

And FYI, harry not following kirstie Ennis on instagram didn't mean he never cared too much about her. He sent her a gift and called her everyday during the week after her leg was amputated. Imo he doesn't care more or less for a vet involved with invictus whether they are male or female. But anyone here is welcome to disagree with me.
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Old 06-05-2016, 06:22 PM
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I don't know but somehow I think its highly unlikely that she would make an "announcement" on a Harry fan site or make a public statement regarding something which is of a highly personal nature.. that would be a bit bizarre, given her military training yada yada. More importantly, she is DEEP in training and focused on preparing for trials and then Rio... her focus has to be elsewhere. Think someone is trying to make trouble. Its only a matter of time before she changes her privacy settings.

Somehow, I think its just rumour... nothing to it.
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:36 AM
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Not a rumor, Ladies. again, I would not have said it unless it came from her personally. which is very easy to check.

If you go to her Insta, scroll trough pictures she was tag in, click on the photo she is in with Harry (there 2 of them-one from medal event (that's the one comment is) and the American team with flag), click on the first one which will lead you to hrhprinceharryofengland Instagram fan page. and there you have it. the last 2 comments under that picture are from her. (date 13 of May)

If you aint have time for that:
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...so6yh8etu.jpeg
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Old 06-06-2016, 04:22 AM
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I have two problems with this, why would you announce it on a fan page? And definitely is spelt wrong.

Is her page verified in anyway?
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Old 06-06-2016, 05:34 AM
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I have two problems with this, why would you announce it on a fan page? And definitely is spelt wrong.

Is her page verified in anyway?
that was my initial thought as well (about announcement)

yes, thats her page. she has her siblings on it ( pictures, friends and their comments are there) and team members as friends.
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Old 06-06-2016, 06:19 AM
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Somehow, I don't think that was her. Period. Why would she need to make such an announcement, especially on a PHarry fan site. I follow her on insta and there is no picture there which includes PHarry. I can see her changing her privacy settings very quickly when she realises that this has happened.

Where you see Elizabeth Pelly following, that is EMarks's legitimate account. Which is significant BTW... she is being followed by the wife of his BFF...

So, either someone has actually hijacked her account or has recreated her account, posting her photos etc. Which is sad, really. I am highly suspicious of this posting as her last entry was from Memorial Day, May 30. No other activity since then.
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Old 06-06-2016, 07:22 AM
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I am confused with your messages to be honest. Few days (weeks?) you put her Insta account here for everyone to see – now you say it’s not her.
There are 2 pictures of her with Prince Harry that she was tag in. am I the only one who sees it? (just to make sure)
on Last page you said that “I have seen Elizabeth Pelly following her but very much doubt Sgt Marks even knows who she is. So I don't see why she would follow her.” But now you say “Where you see Elizabeth Pelly following, that is EMarks's legitimate account. Which is significant BTW... she is being followed by the wife of his BFF...” I think Mrs Pelly was impressed with Miss Marks performance as much as we all did-and that is the only reason why she is following her.

English is not my first language (not even my third) so if I did misunderstood you-sorry


Let’s go back to Srg Marks
I sincerely doubt they are in relationship (H/L), I was just stating the fact that she confirmed being divorced. If she ever put a picture of her and Harry that would be the same as throwing meat (Elizabeth) to hungry wolfs (media).
I assume divorce is very recent because you can see his family (Wasil) commenting on her pictures in 2015.

Here is why I think the account if hers and comment was hers as well.
-comments from family (including ex-husband and his sisters, her brother and sister)
-friends (including those she sees everyday), who are also team she is training with.
-the style of the comments. (if you go back to read some of her comments she often refers to people as “love” and, if you ever learned languages, you will see certain pattern she uses in sentences. )
-if her account was hacked she would know. Her friends would notice or her family.
-if she was hacked the comment just doesn’t make sense. “Go big or go home” isn’t it? Wouldn’t hacker say something like “yeah, Im pregnant and we are getting married tomorrow”. Not comment kindly to someones messege and then add about divorce.
I assume she was tired of everyone asking about it/making comment – and just decided to put an end to it.

Very quick research also answer your comment about her not being active since May 30. They came back from Florida and went to training. Most of her team members (not just her) last activity on social media was May 30-June 1 from National Olympic Traning center in Colorado Springs. I sincerely doubt that after hours of swimming she would wanna do anything.

Sorry for rambling, if you read it all the way here you go
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Old 06-06-2016, 07:29 AM
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It's best for everyone to leave Miss Marks and her social media accounts alone. Also, people need to let go of this fantasy of a relationship between her and Harry.

Harry will eventually find someone, but he don't need anyone dreaming of one for him.
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Old 06-06-2016, 09:23 AM
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Mrs Littrell, think you misunderstood my comments... but that's OK... I'm not overly concerned. Many crossed wires here... no big deal...

Although her insta account is not private, it was an error to link it here, and, it was removed

However, it is a fact that people can and do recreate someone else's account, including pictures etc etc. I do not see any pics of PHarry at the insta which I follow so it has made me question whether or not we were looking at the same thing. Based on what you have posted, doesn't seem to be the case.

The same account which I follow is the same one followed by Eli Pelly. Made that comment because I am assuming (hoping) that this may be the legitimate account. I just very much doubt that EMarks would make such a statement online... makes absolutely no sense. Especially if she is supposedly in the midst of preparing for something as important as the Olympics.

Anyways, I will not continue to bore myself (and anyone else) with this topic... think we have beaten it into the ground now... I'm out!!
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