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03-28-2015, 07:27 PM
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OK, Harry needs to pick up girlfriend soon, as we have all clearly lost our minds.... 
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*giggles*
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Originally Posted by Zonk
If Harry was to go the cousin route, I am hoping for Lady Gabrielle Windsor. Since he has obviously missed out on my personal faves...the lovely Ladies Rose and Davina. 
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Yes! I like Gabriella very much. She's not much older than Harry, and she's only a second cousin, once removed, so not so close as Beatrice. And she has what I consider to be the most beautiful name of all the family: The Lady Gabriella Marina Alexandra Ophelia Windsor. How good is that!? And she has the grace and beauty to go with the name.
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Can you imagine how disappointing it would be for Beatrice to be known as "Princess Beatrice, Mrs. Clark" for the rest of her life ?
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Why? She'd get to keep the "Princess Beatrice" part, and that's the important bit, IMO; i.e. she keeps her own identity. Unless she relinquishes her style and title on marriage, though I don't think she'll do that.
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03-29-2015, 06:30 PM
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Has the press ever mentioned any Lascelles cousins or Bowes-Lyon cousins as a possibility for Prince Henry?
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03-29-2015, 07:16 PM
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What is going on ? this 2015 not 1815
All this talk of cousins marrying eeek !!!
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03-29-2015, 08:48 PM
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Harry and Bea getting married would be like a brother and sister marrying. In other words, incest. I can't imagine that being legal anywhere. I hope this talk is just people being silly. In fact, it would be ridiculous for Harry to marry ANY of his many cousins. That would send the RF back to the days when many royal children were "different" either mentally or physically and I can't imagine HM would like that. I remember people being so happy when Diana came into the family and she wasn't related in any way to the RF and everybody was saying how wonderful it was that the RF was getting "new blood." Catherine has brought in more "new blood" and Harry should do the same.
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03-29-2015, 09:07 PM
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IIRC Diana was related to the BRF, just not closely.
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03-29-2015, 10:21 PM
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 Exactly. Diana's Royal connections came from the Stuarts(Charles II) not the mostly German Hanoverian line of the current BRF.
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03-29-2015, 10:27 PM
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I would say the line is a lot less German now... starting with the Queen's mother down to present day.
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03-30-2015, 03:48 AM
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Yes, indeed. A large dose of Scottish blood, a bit of Danish, a touch of Transylvanian (thanks to Queen Mary) and for William and Harry, a large dollop of English Spencer blood.
Marriage between cousins has always been legal in Britain. After all, Victoria and Albert were first cousins and none of their nine children suffered from mental disabilities. As far as Vicky (Empress Friedrich) Alice, Leopold and Louise were concerned, quite the reverse in fact.
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03-30-2015, 04:26 AM
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I think it will be a while yet before gets into another relationship or even start dating anyone. But, I have a feeling that the changes in his working life will precipitate a new outlook on life and he will meet someone through his new work.
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03-30-2015, 05:30 AM
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Yes, indeed. A large dose of Scottish blood, a bit of Danish, a touch of Transylvanian (thanks to Queen Mary) and for William and Harry, a large dollop of English Spencer blood.
Marriage between cousins has always been legal in Britain. After all, Victoria and Albert were first cousins and none of their nine children suffered from mental disabilities. As far as Vicky (Empress Friedrich) Alice, Leopold and Louise were concerned, quite the reverse in fact.
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And some Russian thanks to Philip's paternal grandmother - a Grand Duchess of Russia.
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03-30-2015, 07:56 AM
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I doubt we will ever see it again, where a member of the BRF marry a cousin unless they are multiple times removed/distant.
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03-30-2015, 08:02 AM
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I doubt we will ever see it again, where a member of the BRF marry a cousin unless they are multiple times removed/distant.
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I agree; it may be legal but I think it has largely come to be frowned on?
I haven't heard of any such marriages among the nobility in recent years.
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03-30-2015, 09:12 AM
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I think most people realize there is no need or reason for people to marry cousins in this day and age...the old ideas about royals only marrying royals is almost gone and in those areas where it used to be done simply because you were in a geographical area without a real ability to meet 'outsiders', so you married into the families around you, is no longer the situation with all the technology etc.
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03-30-2015, 01:54 PM
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I know of a case where first cousins married, and the children are fine. Once in a while doesn't seem to be a problem. It's when there are family marriages over generations and the problems in the gene pool add up.
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Marriage between cousins has always been legal in Britain.
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03-30-2015, 10:22 PM
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Thank you for sharing this photo - I've never seen Harry with any member of a non-reigning house before. Do we know if the BRF have any connections to the Brazilian Imperial Family or was it just a coincidence that Harry and Princess Maria Beatriz met? What event was the photo taken at? It looks like it was taken at a party, judging by the clothes they are wearing (and, the general vibe of the photo just feels a bit like a party for me).
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Sorry for taking so long to answer you, Hereditary Princess.
I really doubt the British Royal Family and the Brazilian Imperial Family are close. Princess Maria Beatriz was representing her Family at an official reception the City of Rio de Janeiro gave to Prince Harry, during his 2012 tour. Prince Harry dind't knew Brazil was once a Monarchy, so Princess Maria Beatriz gave him a little lesson of Brazilian History.
The Brazilian royals are close only to the Belgian, Spanish, Liechtensteiner and Luxembourgish royals. The Prince of Monaco is also a friend of the Prince Luiz, the current Head of the Imperial House of Brazil.
When The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh visited Brazil, in 1968, they met with Prince Pedro Henrique (1909-1981), then Head of the Imperial House of Brazil, and his wife, who was born Princess Maria of Bavaria (1914-2011) - they're Princess Maria Beatriz's paternal grandparents.
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03-31-2015, 12:47 AM
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I doubt we will ever see it again, where a member of the BRF marry a cousin unless they are multiple times removed/distant.
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It's not too farfetched.
Harry and Cressida are 4th cousins. That would be like Savannah Phillips marrying Leo Lascelles - who is the son of Viscount Lascelles, heir of the Harewood Earldom. Both Savannah and Leo are descendants of King George V. I don't consider that "distant". Back in the day, the Catholic Church would have banned a marriage between Harry and Cressida on the grounds of incest - unless they received dispensation.
I think we'll see a cousin marriage sooner than later. Maybe it will be Harry and Cressida!
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03-31-2015, 12:52 AM
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It's not too farfetched.
Harry and Cressida are 4th cousins. [...] Back in the day, the Catholic Church would have banned a marriage between Harry and Cressida on the grounds of incest - unless they received dispensation.
I think we'll see a cousin marriage sooner than later. Maybe it will be Harry and Cressida! 
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Ah, wouldn't that be so very cool!  However, Harry would need to demonstrate that he values her. She deserves to be valued, not taken for granted. But truth be said, I'm rooting for Cressida back with her old boyfriend. He's hot!
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04-06-2015, 06:44 PM
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04-22-2015, 03:33 AM
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I am truly suspecting that something is happening with his old flame Chelsy Davy. Such a change with that girl. No longer seems bothered with the paps. More publicly visible but still discreet.
Both on a gap year...
And she is looking better than ever!
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04-22-2015, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Queen Camilla
 Maybe Harry is in love with his cousin Princess Beatrice and just waiting for her to reciprocate.
He clearly gets along with her family. Her family may not object. She knows the royal routine.
It would solve the problem of a career for Beatrice. It would also allow Beatrice to get her hands on her grandmother's jewels and access to some Duchy income for clothes.
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Are you serious ?????? Hope your just having joke
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It would be perfectly legal, though I doubt HM would be very happy about it.
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What is going on ? this 2015 not 1815
All this talk of cousins marrying eeek !!!
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Originally Posted by Zonk
If Harry was to go the cousin route, I am hoping for Lady Gabrielle Windsor. Since he has obviously missed out on my personal faves...the lovely Ladies Rose and Davina. 
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Originally Posted by GracieGiraffe
OK, Harry needs to pick up girlfriend soon, as we have all clearly lost our minds....
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Okay Gracie, we all took the expressway to crazytown and a sharp right straight up looney lane! But what a trip!
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