Prince Harry: Relationship Rumours and Musings 2013-2014

[Lumutqueen]

Well we're not going to have another Concert for Diana anytime soon I think

[julliette]

But we've had several polo games and Cressida attended none.

[wyevale]

I think it is sensible to let relationships develop away from the scrutiny of the press and public {if this is indeed what is happening.} The pressures are great enough as it is...

[GracieGiraffe]

Originally Posted by julliette

But we've had several polo games and Cressida attended none.

That's a good point.

You know, she could be a good sport "front" for his real relationship, with whoever that is.....

[angieuk]

I thought he was planning to propose??

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by angieuk

I thought he was planning to propose??

Who was? Henry?

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

Who was? Henry?

I think its more the media and public that are trying to marry Harry off. As much as we'd all love another royal wedding, I don't think its really a priority on Harry's mind but what do I know?

It'll happen when he's ready.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by renauld

I think the biggest problem for Harry regarding a relationship is the new "Middleton Doctrine"

It is not only enough for a girl to love Harry but she has to be willing to subject her family to the vile tactics of the British Tabloids.

Its a shame really, Catherine and her family are made of steel but this is the exception rather than the rule.

Harry may find a girl he loves but in the Britain of 2013 that may not be enough.

I disagree with this, Catherine's family put themselves out there, they are in the public eye. Pippa has her book deal, her columns in newspaper, the family have a multi million pound company, then there's Uncle Gary who does nothing to help himself. They are seen out and about, But if Henry ends up marrying a barmaid from Leeds, her families not going to be down in London dropping thousands of pounds in the nearest department store every week. The tabloids use the Middletons as canon fodder because they're easily available. You don't see Dave Clark's family trotted about in the front pages every weekend, or Eugenie's partner. You never saw pictures of Chelsy Davy's family except the rumours about her father.

I also dislike your generalisation of "in the Britain of 2013", most of us couldn't care less who Henry marries, most of the people in the UK only know him because of his Vegas stunt.

[ladongas]

Hasn't there also been a rumor-actual story-something, anyway- about the Queen requiring a years-long courtship before approving a marriage? If true, Harry has years to go with Cressida before he could marry her.

[HRHHermione]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

I also dislike your generalisation of "in the Britain of 2013", most of us couldn't care less who Henry marries, most of the people in the UK only know him because of his Vegas stunt.

Oh come on now. You know darn well that Prince Harry's been know to most of the people in the UK since his birth, and that he's been well known to the public for his entire life, particularly after his mother's death.

I agree with you that not everyone who marries into the family will have their family go through as much tabloid trouble as Kate's has, but you're really going to imply that Prince Harry is only known because of one relatively minor tabloid story about his vegas trip?

That's nuts.

[NGalitzine]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

I also dislike your generalisation of "in the Britain of 2013", most of us couldn't care less who Henry marries, most of the people in the UK only know him because of his Vegas stunt.

I hadn't realized that the state school system system had deteriorated so much that the general public would not know who Prince Harry was. Sad state of affairs Cool Britannia left us I guess.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by ladongas

Hasn't there also been a rumor-actual story-something, anyway- about the Queen requiring a years-long courtship before approving a marriage? If true, Harry has years to go with Cressida before he could marry her.

I think that's a rumour.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by NGalitzine

I hadn't realized that the state school system system had deteriorated so much that the general public would not know who Prince Harry was. Sad state of affairs Cool Britannia left us I guess.

In my 15 years of education I have never once been taught the current royal family and I don't know anyone that has. Seeing as we live in the UK, it is probably assumed that we know who our royal family are. Not sure how this leaves us in a "sad state of affairs" when frankly there are more important things to learn.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by HRHHermione

Oh come on now. You know darn well that Prince Harry's been know to most of the people in the UK since his birth, and that he's been well known to the public for his entire life, particularly after his mother's death.

I agree with you that not everyone who marries into the family will have their family go through as much tabloid trouble as Kate's has, but you're really going to imply that Prince Harry is only known because of one relatively minor tabloid story about his vegas trip?

That's nuts.

Relatively minor? You are joking right? A naked Prince on the cover of every tabloid which dare, and practically every internet site you could find, is hardly minor. He was a laughing stock.

I disagree, you catch a stranger on the street and show him a picture of Henry he'd probably go who's that? Genuinely. People in the UK are not bothered by any other member of the RF than The Queen, Cambridges and George now. When Henry represented his grandmother at the Olympics last year, because he was called by his actual name people assumed he was foreigner. We're not taught the names and members of the royal family at school anymore, they're not of interest to people unless they do something outrageous. When Henry marries he'll get coverage, but people have lives to lead and unless you're a fan of royalty it's the celebrities that get people talking. If I wasn't a royal watcher, I probably wouldn't know who he was.

Originally Posted by renauld

Your 15 years of education were under Labour. Enough said.

Actually not enough said, the curriculum in the three schools I attended have remained exactly the same under the Conservative government we've had in power since 2010. Your comment makes no sense.

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by renauld

Your 15 years of education were under Labour. Enough said.

I don't think that has anything to do with it. Even here in the US, I think it'd be hard pressed to find a boatload of people on the street that could tell you the names of Obama's daughters. TBH, I really don't have a clue what they are.

[NGalitzine]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

In my 15 years of education I have never once been taught the current royal family and I don't know anyone that has. Seeing as we live in the UK, it is probably assumed that we know who our royal family are. Not sure how this leaves us in a "sad state of affairs" when frankly there are more important things to learn.

Most of us during the course of our lives have had access to newpapers, television, magazines etc. We did not have to go to a class on who are the members of the royal family, they just are part of the fabric of the nation that gets absorbed into the subconsciousness. Maybe things a different in your part of Yrokshire but I doubt that the majority of Britons could not name most of the senior royals including Harry. If you were talking about the Kents or the Gloucesters or even the Wessexes I would agree with you, but I do think the general population can name the 2 sons of the Prince of Wales without having to take a class on it.

[HRHHermione]

Originally Posted by NGalitzine

Most of us during the course of our lives have had access to newpapers, television, magazines etc. We did not have to go to a class on who are the members of the royal family, they just are part of the fabric of the nation that gets absorbed into the subconsciousness. Maybe things a different in your part of Yrokshire but I doubt that the majority of Britons could not name most of the senior royals including Harry. If you were talking about the Kents or the Gloucesters or even the Wessexes I would agree with you, but I do think the general population can name the 2 sons of the Prince of Wales without having to take a class on it.

Exactly. Especially anyone who's old enough to remember the death of Princess Diana- I have a hard time believing anyone who was old enough to be aware of what was going on in 1997 doesn't know who Prince Harry is.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by NGalitzine

Most of us during the course of our lives have had access to newpapers, television, magazines etc. We did not have to go to a class on who are the members of the royal family, they just are part of the fabric of the nation that gets absorbed into the subconsciousness. Maybe things a different in your part of Yrokshire but I doubt that the majority of Britons could not name most of the senior royals including Harry. If you were talking about the Kents or the Gloucesters or even the Wessexes I would agree with you, but I do think the general population can name the 2 sons of the Prince of Wales without having to take a class on it.

Your comment was in reference to the "state school system" hence my comment that I have never been taught about the current royal family. Nothing was mentioned about newspapers, television, magazines etc. None of which Henry has been in since his return from Afghanisatan, we've barely seen him. When Henry was in the newspapers, tv and magazines for his Vegas trip, everyone got to know him. My 80+ grandmother even got to know him.

Just to add, we get the big city newspapers, magazines and tv in my part of Yorkshire dear. Don't you fret for us with your derogatory comments.

My main point in this was that for Henry and his future wife and her family it'll be a lot easier than what William and Catherine are/been going through. Okay guys?

[HRHHermione]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

Relatively minor? You are joking right? A naked Prince on the cover of every tabloid which dare, and practically every internet site you could find, is hardly minor. He was a laughing stock.

A laughing stock? From what I recall of the polling, most people, especially young people, thought it was all in good fun and didn't think worse of Prince Harry because of that story.

I think you're projecting your own rather disdainful view of Prince Harry and the royal family in general on the general population.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by HRHHermione

A laughing stock? From what I recall of the polling, most people, especially young people, thought it was all in good fun and didn't think worse of Prince Harry because of that story.

I think you're projecting your own rather disdainful view of Prince Harry and the royal family in general on the general population.

Yeah because most young people would love to afford a trip to Vegas, go gambling, strip off with some hookers in a hot tub and have all night fun. Henry became a role model for some people because of his good natured trip to Vegas.
I personally thought his stunt was ridiculous, stupid and dangerous, that coming from a young person. Sure he can have fun, party, etc but he's not just anyone is he.

I'm not sure how I have a disdainful view of the monarchy and Prince Henry by saying not many people would know his name or that he was a laughing stock when his naked body was splashed across newspapers, television, magazines and the internet. Most of that's the truth. Prince Henry's seems like a great guy, who's fought for his country. Don't know much else about him to have a disdainful or non-disdainful view about him frankly.

I will repeat;

My main point in this was that for Henry and his future wife and her family it'll be a lot easier than what William and Catherine are/been going through. Okay guys?