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06-22-2013, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Empress Merel
Looks like Harry has a thing for women who dress themselves in the dark.
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Why do we have to be insulting? Regardless of what we think is saying something insulting about someone necessary?
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06-22-2013, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Empress Merel
Looks like Harry has a thing for women who dress themselves in the dark.
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But it is a late wedding and a number of guests are wearing long dresses. But there is one women wearing lilac that should never have left the house!
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06-22-2013, 03:33 PM
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Why do we have to be insulting? Regardless of what we think is saying something insulting about someone necessary?
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Obviously? It's a forum and it's more of an observation than an insult. Most of the people in their circle dress horrible.
And yes cepe, the woman in the purple is the worst.
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06-22-2013, 03:35 PM
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Since that is such a wealthy circle, maybe we are all wrong.
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06-22-2013, 03:38 PM
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I must say that it was nice to see Chelsy again. She looked beautiful and we haven't seen her in a while. I wonder if she's still living in London?
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06-22-2013, 04:47 PM
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I must say that it was nice to see Chelsy again. She looked beautiful and we haven't seen her in a while. I wonder if she's still living in London?
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She'd gone to Istanbul; I don't know whether she is back permanently or if she just returned for Melissa's wedding.
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06-22-2013, 04:52 PM
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An observation only - I wouldn't have expected a man who dated Chelsy to also date Cressida. They seem to be at the opposite ends of the spectrum.
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06-22-2013, 05:35 PM
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An observation only - I wouldn't have expected a man who dated Chelsy to also date Cressida. They seem to be at the opposite ends of the spectrum.
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In what way. I don't see much of a difference.
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06-22-2013, 05:38 PM
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physically different - curvy vs waif. Legal training Vs dance student. Strong minded vs "dippy" (as described by a friend!)
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06-22-2013, 05:46 PM
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physically different - curvy vs waif. Legal training Vs dance student. Strong minded vs "dippy" (as described by a friend!)
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Physical differences aside, some of the differences could be him trying to approach some of the issues with being a future HRH.
Chelsy's a strong minded, career-oriented woman. She doesn't seem the type to want to be a society wife, or to give up her career in order to be a princess.
Cressida doesn't seem as career oriented or as independent. I'm not sure that being dippy is a good quality in a future HRH, but this could be Harry's way to try to find a partner who's personality is more suitable to his life.
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06-22-2013, 05:51 PM
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I think that Cressida is more like his mother.
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06-22-2013, 05:52 PM
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Urban Dictionary: dippy
 The word dippy sounds cute but the desciption so harsh.
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06-22-2013, 06:19 PM
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I think that Cressida is more like his mother.
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And, of course, the BRF needs another one of those {like a hole in the head}
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06-22-2013, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cepe
An observation only - I wouldn't have expected a man who dated Chelsy to also date Cressida. They seem to be at the opposite ends of the spectrum.
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I think that Cressida is more like his mother.
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I agree with you about both things
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06-22-2013, 06:37 PM
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I think that Cressida is more like his mother.
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I do agree with you here, but I wouldn't necessarily say that's a bad thing. In many ways Diana was the perfect bride for an HRH - it's why she was chosen. However she had a lot of problems, and her marriage had a lot of problems, ultimately ending in... Yeah.
If Cressida is like Diana in some ways, but doesn't have some of the more unstable elements of Diana's personality, and has a stronger relationship with Harry than C/D had I can't see why this couldn't work. Granted, I don't know that much about Cressida so I can't say if she fits that bill or not.
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06-22-2013, 06:56 PM
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I do agree with you here, but I wouldn't necessarily say that's a bad thing. In many ways Diana was the perfect bride for an HRH - it's why she was chosen. However she had a lot of problems, and her marriage had a lot of problems, ultimately ending in... Yeah.
If Cressida is like Diana in some ways, but doesn't have some of the more unstable elements of Diana's personality, and has a stronger relationship with Harry than C/D had I can't see why this couldn't work. Granted, I don't know that much about Cressida so I can't say if she fits that bill or not.
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The problem is, Ish, that she married a person and a job. She was a hit with one and not the other - and her personality could not deal with that.
People that do well in the role realize they have a job and a relationship and that those are two very different things. They have to be dealt with on separate terms.
Can Cressida do that? Heck, can Harry do that? I don't think we know that yet.
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06-22-2013, 07:10 PM
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Cressida is a very beautiful woman who is smart enough to dress very ladylike and not draw attention to herself.
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06-22-2013, 07:45 PM
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The problem is, Ish, that she married a person and a job. She was a hit with one and not the other - and her personality could not deal with that.
People that do well in the role realize they have a job and a relationship and that those are two very different things. They have to be dealt with on separate terms.
Can Cressida do that? Heck, can Harry do that? I don't think we know that yet.
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I'm going to try to approach this without getting too specific into Diana, because I don't want to end up off topic.
I agree, women marrying into the BRF (or really any RF) have to realize that they're marrying both a job and a man. Essentially they have to be right for the job while also be able to get along with and (hopefully) be a good friend to the man. In the 21st century we're also seeing more of an emphasis placed on love matches (previously while some royals did love who they married that was more of an added bonus).
One of the things that the BRF has proven is that it is really great at finding prospective brides who would be good for the job. Queen Alexandra, Queen Mary, the Queen Mother, and Diana were all great at the job. They've also been really good about finding prospective brides who understand the demands of their position and the role of their relationship. The best example, in my opinion, is Alexandra, who was essentially a good friend to her Bertie and willing to accept his flaws and mistresses to a remarkable degree. Most of the individuals who didn't marry into the family with love, like Alexandra, knew what they were getting into and were accepting of that. The flaw in the Charles/Diana relationship was that she didn't seem to know what she was getting into in the first place, and when she figured it out she wasn't accepting of it (not really faulting her there though). In the end, when put into a situation similar to what many royal wives had dealt with before her, Diana couldn't handle it no matter how good she was at the job.
What's this mean for Harry? I do think he's able to handle the basic job. Maybe not with all the grace of his mother or grandmother, but it's something he's been raised to do and I think do he can do it. I also think he knows, perhaps better than his father once did, the importance of stressing both the relationship and the job to any perspective bride. We've seen that more with Sophie, Catherine, and Camilla, and I think we can expect to see it with the future Princess Harry.
I do think that's why his relationship with Chelsy didn't work - not because they weren't in love but because she wasn't right for the job. I don't know if he and Cressida have much of a future, because I don't know if they have that relationship yet or if she's right for the job. I suspect that Harry's trying to figure out both right now himself.
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06-22-2013, 08:28 PM
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I'm going to try to approach this without getting too specific into Diana, because I don't want to end up off topic. I suspect that Harry's trying to figure out both right now himself.
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I agree completely and about the off topic too - but just wanted to say I almost pulled out Alexandra as a great example, but held back. Anyway - well stated.
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06-22-2013, 10:06 PM
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Looks like the wedding party were together prior to the wedding day. This probably means that Henry and Chelsy were together prior to the wedding. I wish I was a fly on the wall...
Still, it does look like Cressida is indeed in the picture. I do wish we had confirmation that she was Henry's guest rather than the bride or groom's.
If Chelsy leaves London again, I think this game is up for me.
I wonder if Henry will be googling the wedding reports? He could have a good look at this...Hehehe!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ids-dress.html
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