Prince Harry: Relationship Rumours and Musings 2013-2014

[Lee27]

I wonder how much of this desire to settle down is due to Harry seeing many of his close male friends getting married rather than meeting the "right" woman.

[AfricanAUSSIE]

Apparently Henry has been seen around partying...with a group of friends and some showgirls? Not Cressida at any rate.

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[julliette]

Originally Posted by AfricanAUSSIE

Apparently Henry has been seen around partying...with a group of friends and some showgirls? Not Cressida at any rate.

Prince Harry Parties Alongside Britain's Got Talent Beauties As He Hits The Town Two Nights In A Row - Celebrity Gossip, News & Photos, Movie Reviews, Competitions - Entertainmentwise

Harry was at Bodo Schloss two nights in a row. According to some tweets, in one of them Cressida was there.

[emmalisa]

I wouldn't be surprised at all, on the contrary, I would be delighted, if Chelsy indeed would come back. Didn't William and Kate have a so called planned "break" for a while because of William's military training. It may well be that we are living in the same kind of a "break" between Harry and Chelsy right now..

[Pranter]

Will and Kate's break lasted a few weeks....Chelsey and Harry have been split for a few years now. I doubt there will be a reunion after that, they seem to have both moved on with their lives.



LaRae

[julliette]

Yes, William&Kate's break is in no way comparable to the one of Chelsy&Harry. Even if Chelsy is indeed back on the seen

[Daria_S]

Originally Posted by Roslyn

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes..........NO.

Sorry, I was overwhelmed by the compulsion to channel Jim Trott for a minute there.

I love VoD! What a hoot . And I agree with your sentiments; Pippa and Henry...just one big NO.

[LadyGabrielle]

I dont understand, why not Pippa and Harry? I think they would make a lovely couple. O.K. it would be a little strange having the sisters married to the brothers but, there are people that have done it. Seriously though, if Harry is going to choose someone I would have to say no to Chelsy. I just dont think she is capable of being a Princess. She does not want it, she has made that perfectly clear. At least Pippa knows what to expect. Just a thought. :)

[Sangre_Real016]

i don't think so.. one Middleton is enough for the BRF..

[ladongas]

Originally Posted by Sangre_Real016

i don't think so.. one Middleton is enough for the BRF..

Well, perhaps one Windsor is enough for the Middleton family, too!

However, sisters marrying brothers is actually a nice idea. My father's two sisters married brothers and my mother always said that if those brothers had had a sister, my father would have married her instead of my mom.

[Sangre_Real016]

Originally Posted by ladongas

Well, perhaps one Windsor is enough for the Middleton family, too!

that would be hard to believe though.. but who knows..

[Sangre_Real016]

i like Cressida for Harry.. she has all the credentials to be a perfect consort (intelligent, aristocratic, and well connected).. not saying that all potential brides from aristocratic backgrounds would be perfect consorts for royals though, but they are much preferred due to their familiarity with royal circles and protocols..

also, aren't Harry and Cressida related? i believe they share some common ancestors from both the Curzon family and well as the Spencer family..

you see, Cressida is a descendant of the House of Spencer through her great-great grandmother who was the daughter of the 7th Duke of Marlborourgh.. here is the line..

Prince Harry's descent from Charles Spencer, 3rd Earl of Sunderland:
*Charles Spencer, 3rd Earl of Sunderland -married- Princess Anne Churchill of Mindelheim
*The Honorable John Spencer -married- Lady Georgiana Carolina Carteret
*John Spencer, 1st Earl Spencer -married- Margaret Poyntz
*George John Spencer, 2nd Earl Spencer -married- Lady Lavinia Bingham
*Frederick Spencer, 4th Earl Spencer -married- Adelaide Horatia Seymour
*Charles Robert Spencer, 6th Earl Spencer -married- The Honorable Margaret Baring
*Albert Edward John Spencer, 7th Earl Spencer -married- Lady Cynthia Hamilton
*John Spencer, 8th Earl Spencer -married- The Honorable Frances Roche
*Lady Diana Spencer -married- Charles, Prince of Wales
*Prince Harry of Wales

Cressida Bonas' descent from Charles Spencer, 3rd Earl of Sunderland:
*Charles Spencer, 3rd Earl of Sunderland -married- Princess Anne Churchill of Mindelheim
*Charles Spencer, 3rd Duke of Marlborough -married- The Honorable Elizabeth Trevor
*George Spencer, 4th Duke of Marlborough -married- Lady Caroline Russell
*George Spencer-Churchill, 5th Duke of Marlborough -married- Lady Susan Stewart
*George Spencer-Churchill, 6th Duke of Marlborough -married- Lady Jane Stewart
*John Spencer-Churchill, 7th Duke of Marlborough -married- Lady Frances Anne Emily Vane
*Lady Georgiana Elizabeth Spencer-Churchill -married- Richard Curzon, 4th Earl Howe
*Francis Curzon, 5th Earl Howe -married- Mary Curzon
*Lady Mary-Gaye Curzon -married- Jeffrey Bonas
*Cressida Bonas

also, they share a more recent relation through their descent from Curzon family.. here is the family line:

Prince Harry's descent from Richard Curzon-Howe, 1st Earl Howe:
*Richard Curzon-Howe, 1st Earl Howe -married- Lady Mary Anna Howe
*Lady Maria Anna Curzon-Howe -married- James Hamilton, 2nd Duke of Abercorn
*James Hamilton, 3rd Duke of Abercorn -married- Lady Rosalind Bingham
*Lady Cynthia Hamilton -married- Albert Edward John Spencer, 7th Earl Spencer
*John Spencer, 8th Earl Spencer -married- The Honorable Frances Roche
*Lady Diana Spencer -married- Charles, Prince of Wales
*Prince Harry of Wales

Cressida Bonas' descent from Richard Curzon-Howe, 1st Earl Howe:
*Richard Curzon-Howe, 1st Earl Howe -married- Lady Harriet Georgiana Brudenell
*Richard Curzon-Howe, 3rd Earl Howe -married- Isabella Anson
*Richard Curzon, 4th Earl Howe -married- Lady Georgiana Elizabeth Spencer-Churchill
*Francis Curzon, 5th Earl Howe -married- Mary Curzon
*Lady Mary-Gaye Curzon -married- Jeffrey Bonas
*Cressida Bonas

this means, Cressida is actually Diana's 4th Cousin and technically, this makes her, Harry's aunt (lol).. more specifically, Cressida is Harry's 4th cousin once remove from the line of the Earls Howe..

Harry is also Cressida's 8th cousin through her descent from the House of Spencer.. :P

[GracieGiraffe]

Lady Diana Spencer was even more aristocratic and well-connected, and we all know how that turned out.

I'm not sure what evidence there is of Cressie's intelligence, but I'm willing to examine whatever is presented.

Personally, given her family of origin, Mum and Dad married several times, siblings, half-siblings everywhere, I think Cressie would be my last choice for Harry. She doesn't know what a stable, long-term marriage is, and can't model it.

[NGalitzine]

Originally Posted by Sangre_Real016

i like Cressida for Harry.. she has all the credentials to be a perfect consort (intelligent, aristocratic, and well connected).. not saying that all potential brides from aristocratic backgrounds would be perfect consorts for royals though, but they are much preferred due to their familiarity with royal circles and protocols..

Why do people assume that just because someone belongs to an aristocratic family they must be familiar with royal circles and protocol? We have hundreds of families in the UK from the old hereditary peerage and God knows how many from the life peerage, baronetage and knights. I would wager a bet at least 95% had never even met a member of the BRF let alone move in the same circles and know about royal protocol.

[Sangre_Real016]

Originally Posted by NGalitzine

Why do people assume that just because someone belongs to an aristocratic family they must be familiar with royal circles and protocol? We have hundreds of families in the UK from the old hereditary peerage and God knows how many from the life peerage, baronetage and knights. I would wager a bet at least 95% had never even met a member of the BRF let alone move in the same circles and know about royal protocol.

yes.. you are right.. but there are also those who are more well connected that the others.. the Spencers for example are very well connected with the Royal family for centuries.. almost every Earl Spencer and Spencer children in the past 150 years were godchildren of the monarch and senior members of the royal family.. the Queen herself, the Queen Mother and Princess Margaret attended the wedding of Johnnie, Viscount Althorp to The Hon. Frances Roche, who's mother is a confidant of the Queen Mother herself.. Johnnie Spencer himself was once considered as a possible future husband for the then Princess Elizabeth, later Queen Elizabeth II.. Diana and her siblings grew up calling the Queen Aunt Lilibeth.. like as i said myself, i am not saying that all potential brides from aristocratic backgrounds would be perfect consorts for royals..yes, not all aristocratic families knows the RF first hand, but some do..

[Ish]

Yes, and we've seen how well the Spencers proved to be as royal consorts...

[Elenath]

Wasn't Cressida's sister caught with some drugs a few weeks ago?

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Elenath

Wasn't Cressida's sister caught with some drugs a few weeks ago?

And the problem is?

[Sangre_Real016]

Originally Posted by GracieGiraffe

Lady Diana Spencer was even more aristocratic and well-connected, and we all know how that turned out.

I'm not sure what evidence there is of Cressie's intelligence, but I'm willing to examine whatever is presented.

Personally, given her family of origin, Mum and Dad married several times, siblings, half-siblings everywhere, I think Cressie would be my last choice for Harry. She doesn't know what a stable, long-term marriage is, and can't model it.

well.. you are correct about Diana, but i personally don't think she was the main reason for the collapse of the marriage.. also, i think that the pride Diana has as a Spencer credits a lot to her fighting back and not crying in a corner for her husband's infidelities.. the Spencers are among the forerunners of the British aristocracy, and one can argue that they have more royal ancestors than the Windsors themselves being descendants of Holy Roman Emperors and Kings of England, Scotland, France, Spain, Jerusalem, etc.. if she was a dutiful wife and just tolerated her husband's liaisons with other women, then no doubt she would be Queen one day, a queen locked in a loveless marriage.. yes, she's no saint and had affairs of her own, but still she chose to voice her frustrations and made them public.. like her great-great-great-great-great grandmother Sarah, Duchess of Marlborough, Diana was not afraid to face the royal family head on and shook the very foundation of the British throne in the process..

William and Harry too came from a family who's parent had less than successful marriage.. and i don't think i can conclude that they will also face the same faith.. who knows, just like Will and Harry, Cressida knows the hardships of being born to a dysfunctional family and will make sure that her children will not experience the same..

[4Pam]

What Harry needs, aristocrat or not, is woman who is familiar with a stable family life. A woman who knows what is expected of her as a senior member of the BRF. Someone who is discreet. Her family better be discreet as well.