Possible Dukedom for Harry and Meghan

[Humbugged]

Originally Posted by Gawin

If someone else is already Earl of X, then Harry cannot be Duke of X. The only work-around would be to use a double title for one. Earl of X & Y and Duke of X, or vice versa.

Just as William is Duke of Cambridge and the Duke of Hamilton is Earl of Arran & Cambridge, and Charles Edward Duke of Albany was Earl of Clarence while his cousin Albert Victor was Duke of Clarence & Avondale.

Or you can do the Devon/Devonshire ruse

Earl of Devon and the Duke of Devonshire have co existed since 1830

[Dman]

Although the Dukedom of Clarence is my favorite. Am I crazy in secretly desiring the Dukedom of Windsor to be given new life and meaning by Harry and Meghan?

[Pranter]

That would be a huge twist...I would like it but don't believe it at all likely. Still hoping for Clarence!


LaRae

[Hans-Rickard]

I'm still hoping for Duke of London No royal history, i know but it deserves to get some.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Dman

Although the Dukedom of Clarence is my favorite. Am I crazy in secretly desiring the Dukedom of Windsor to be given new life and meaning by Harry and Meghan?

I'd say it would be incredibly unlikely. Since it was given to Edwrd VIII to prevent him from doing anyting like getting involved in brtiish politics, it was hardly any kind of honour. And sicne Meg is also an American divorcee it might look like a slight on her and Harry

[wyevale]

[QUOTE]hoping for Duke of London[QUOTE]

That Title was offered [and declined by] to Sir Winston Churchill, in gratitude for his service to the Nation in WWll.
Fond of Harry as we all are, he has done nothing to warrant so weighty a Title..

[Madame Verseau]

I didn't know there was a dukedom of London. Harry served in Afghanistan. Why wouldn't deserve that title?

[JR76]

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

I didn't know there was a dukedom of London. Harry served in Afghanistan. Why wouldn't deserve that title?

There doesn't have to "be" a dukedom. The Queen can make anything up if she wants. She could make Harry, Duke of Edmonton , Earl of Colindale, Baron of Chigwell if she wanted too.

[Hans-Rickard]

Originally Posted by wyevale

That Title was offered [and declined by] to Sir Winston Churchill, in gratitude for his service to the Nation in WWll.
Fond of Harry as we all are, he has done nothing to warrant so weighty a Title..

Harry is an H.R.H and a Prince since birth so he is already higher in rank than Winston would have ever been.

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by Dman

Although the Dukedom of Clarence is my favorite. Am I crazy in secretly desiring the Dukedom of Windsor to be given new life and meaning by Harry and Meghan?

I don't see Windsor being given in the lifetime of anyone who was alive when it was last given.

Windsor has the negative connotation of being 'punishment'. Dukedoms are normally given a geographical designation (usually something large like a region, sometimes small like a city). Instead David was given a title that was of his family. Windsor was not meant to be Duke of the town of Windsor, but of the Windsor family. They didn't want to waste a historical title on David, likely knowing it wouldn't be used again for a long time.

Giving this title to Harry, whose fiancé is also an American divorcee What kind of message do you think most people would read in that???

Already too many people doubting the queen approves of the marriage.

[Rudolph]

Edmonton is in England. Edmonton, Alberta isn’t the original.

[wyevale]

Edmonton

Edmonton is an ENGLISH town 8.6 miles NE of Charing Cross...[like SO many places names in Canada and the US, it was duplicated outside this realm]..

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

I didn't know there was a dukedom of London. Harry served in Afghanistan. Why wouldn't deserve that title?

He doesn't compare with Winston Churchill......

[wyevale]

^ quite....^

[JuliannaVictoria]

I quite agree with Wyevale and Denville on this that Harry's service in Afghanistan cannot and should not be compared to Winston Churchill's.

However, I can't see why the title Duke of London should only be reserved of for an individual of Churchill's stature? In the past 80 years, no one has come close to Churchill's accomplishment in U.K. politics and service.

I actually think given Harry's service to country, although not at the same level of Churchill, that the title could be fitting.

Personally, I'm hoping for something else, and that the HMQ will surprise us all next Saturday.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

I didn't know there was a dukedom of London. Harry served in Afghanistan. Why wouldn't deserve that title?

Originally Posted by wyevale

That Title was offered [and declined by] to Sir Winston Churchill, in gratitude for his service to the Nation in WWll.
Fond of Harry as we all are, he has done nothing to warrant so weighty a Title..

Yes, one officer serving cannot be compared to the man who successfully led the United Kingdom through WWII. Winston Churchill holds a unique place in history.

[Princess B]

I’d really like a new dukedom for Harry, something that hasn’t been used before.
Really hoping for a Duke of Oxford

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by Princess B

I’d really like a new dukedom for Harry, something that hasn’t been used before.
Really hoping for a Duke of Oxford

Not likely. There is an Earl of Oxford.

While it is not ruled out a geographical designation can be used twice, there is an Earl of Cambridge, this is a different situation. The Earl of Cambridge is a minor subsidiary title of a peer, one he doesn't use. Oxford is a senior peerage.

May shock us and do it, but seems highly unlikely.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by JuliannaVictoria

I quite agree with Wyevale and Denville on this that Harry's service in Afghanistan cannot and should not be compared to Winston Churchill's.

However, I can't see why the title Duke of London should only be reserved of for an individual of Churchill's stature? In the past 80 years, no one has come close to Churchill's accomplishment in U.K. politics and service.

I actually think given Harry's service to country, although not at the same level of Churchill, that the title could be fitting.

Personally, I'm hoping for something else, and that the HMQ will surprise us all next Saturday.

I think they will stick with titles that are historically associated with the Royal Family, as was also the French custom, which seems to have influenced British custom.

[JuliannaVictoria]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

I think they will stick with titles that are historically associated with the Royal Family, as was also the French custom, which seems to have influenced British custom.

Yes, you are probably right. What is your guess for the title if you don't mind me asking?