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View Poll Results: What Dukedom will Prince Harry receive upon marriage?
Duke of Clarence 63 25.71%
Duke of Sussex 112 45.71%
Duke of Kendal 8 3.27%
Duke of Ross 8 3.27%
Duke of Hereford 6 2.45%
Duke of Windsor 13 5.31%
Duke of Buckingham 8 3.27%
Something 'New' (Please specify) 8 3.27%
An Earldom (Please specify) 4 1.63%
Nothing - he and Meghan will remain Prince and Princess Henry of Wales 9 3.67%
Other (Please specify) 6 2.45%
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Old 12-01-2017, 05:18 AM
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I would like to see a connection with the residence and the Dukedom. The Duke of Clarence in Clarence House. The Duke of Kensington in Kensington Palace. The Duke of Windsor at Windsor Castle. The Duke of St James at St James' Palace. The Duke of Buckingham at Buckingham Palace. The Duke of Hampton at Hampton Court. The Duke of Holyrood at Holyroodhouse. The Duke of Hillsborough at Hillsborough Castle.
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Old 12-01-2017, 05:36 AM
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I would like to see a connection with the residence and the Dukedom. The Duke of Clarence in Clarence House. The Duke of Kensington in Kensington Palace. The Duke of Windsor at Windsor Castle. The Duke of St James at St James' Palace. The Duke of Buckingham at Buckingham Palace. The Duke of Hampton at Hampton Court. The Duke of Holyrood at Holyroodhouse. The Duke of Hillsborough at Hillsborough Castle.

And then Duke of Buckingham is inherited by the son of the King who doesn't reside at Buckingham Palace. Or the same with Windsor and Clarence.
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Old 12-01-2017, 05:46 AM
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connection with the residence and the Dukedom.
No such connection exists with 'ordinary' Dukedoms - Marlborough [Blenheim Palace], Wellington [Stratfield Saye House], Devonshire [Chatsworth House], Roxburghe [Floors Castle]...
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Old 12-01-2017, 05:51 AM
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How about the Duke of Kintyre and Lorne?

I voted for Duke of Hereford due to Hereford calves being the cutest on the planet.
They are also red.

Does anyone know why the Duke of Albany is not available? It sounds fine.
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Old 12-01-2017, 06:03 AM
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George III named his fifth son Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale while Queen Victoria created her fourth son, Leopold, Duke of Albany.

In 1837 the Duke of Cumberland succeeded his brother William IV as King George V of Hannover (Victoria couldn't inherit Hannover due to its refusal to allow female inheritance).

In 1900 following the death of Queen Victoria's second son, Alfred, her grandson - Leopold's son, Charles inherited the title of Duke of Saxe-Coburg Gotha from Alfred.

As a result in 1914 the holders of both these titles found themselves as British princes and the holders of British peerages but as Germans committed to a German cause.

As WWI unfolded the idea of British citizens, who were also peers of the realms and thus able to sit in the House of Lords and vote on decisions (they didn't do so but they had that right) became a cause of tension so the King and Parliament passed the Titles Deprivation Act which basically said that the then holders were no longer entitled to use those peerages or have any of the benefits of those peerages. The Act, however, did say that future heirs could appeal to have the titles reinstated.

As a result none of Cumberland, Teviotdale or Albany are available as there are current heirs of those deprived nearly 100 years ago and the law is clear - while there are heirs male of the body the titles still exist and aren't able to be regranted until there are no male line heirs which will some generations now as their are multiple generations of heir e.g. Ernest of Hanover has two sons, one of whom only recently married.

The aforementioned Charles - Duke of Albany - who was deprived of his title is sometimes called Hitler's royal as he did embrace the Nazi cause as well as an older man. He had been a teenager whose father died before he was born when he had moved to Germany to take over Saxe Coburg Gotha when Alfred died leaving no sons to inherit.
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Old 12-01-2017, 07:11 AM
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Thanks for that detailed explanation as to why particular dukedoms are unavailable.
It's a complex but interesting topic.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:00 AM
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I love the title Duke of Windsor due to their choice of wedding venue and comments about what Windsor Castle means to them, but I agree it would be highly unlikely and perhaps controversial due to past association with that title. I guess Duke of Clarence would be the best fit otherwise.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:26 AM
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The Duke of Soho? Knowing Harry's love for clubbing?
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:27 AM
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Haha. Given that Soho is only really one or two streets, it wouldnít be much of a place to be a Duke of!
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Soho is only really one or two streets
But there is more than just the one Soho in Britain.. Birmingham's has a very significant place in our Industrial History, as Mathew Boulton's Soho House and to the Soho Manufactory.
One of the earliest large industrial buildings, the factory was built on the site of an earlier watermill on a scale previously unknown. Standing on Factory Road it was built in plain neo-classical style with a central tower above an arched doorway and topped by a cupola. Here over a thousand workers were employed making high quality 'toys': buttons, boxes, buckles, coffee pots, lamps, spurs, trinkets, silverware, plate and jewellery for which Birmingham was to become world-famous.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:37 AM
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Thatís very true actually. And doesnít New York have a place called Soho too?
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doesn’t New York have a place called Soho too?
I believe so... 'the Soho's' has a rather dashing, eighteenth Century air to it .

"Aren't the Soho's coming for Supper on Friday" ?
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:52 AM
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The Duke of Soho? Knowing Harry's love for clubbing?
I think that's pretty much in the past...the clubbing. he seems to be more interested in dinners at home and country walks these days.
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But isn't 'the Soho House' known and beloved by both of them ? I thought they'd had 'dates' in the Private Club of that name ?
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Vote for Clarence, I love the Triple C idea!
When will we know their dukedom?
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Vote for Clarence, I love the Triple C idea!
When will we know their dukedom?
Generally it has been announced on the wedding day.
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:02 AM
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Vote for Clarence, I love the Triple C idea!
When will we know their dukedom?
It's announced the day of the wedding.



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Old 12-01-2017, 09:54 AM
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I would like to see a connection with the residence and the Dukedom. The Duke of Clarence in Clarence House. The Duke of Kensington in Kensington Palace. The Duke of Windsor at Windsor Castle. The Duke of St James at St James' Palace. The Duke of Buckingham at Buckingham Palace. The Duke of Hampton at Hampton Court. The Duke of Holyrood at Holyroodhouse. The Duke of Hillsborough at Hillsborough Castle.
This throws up some intriguing scenarios! Can you imagine how put out Betty Bowes-Lyon would have been if she'd had to vacate Windosr Castle for David & Wallis Simpson? - A scene straight out of Dynasty!!
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:09 AM
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I think the Queen Mother was forever put out over something, though her great grandson being created Duke of Windsor probably would have ranked fairly highly!
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A few years ago I visited the New Forest and made a boat trip on the Beaulieu river. Back at the B&B the locals laughed because I pronounced Beaulieu the French way (I was flabbergasted to hear how the locals pronounced it). The Duke of Beaulieu has a nice ring and it is a most enchanting piece of lush and green England.
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