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05-24-2021, 04:51 AM
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Another name has hit me as a potential reflecting on American first ladies. How about the name Jacqueline (Jackie for short)? So many people admired Jackie Kennedy Onassis for the strength and fortitude she exhibited throughout her time as FLOTUS with the assassination of her husband and then, even with the rumors abounding of JFK's peccadillos. 
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Dont really see why. Jackie was essentially a socialte.. only thing she did that was "new" was to take up a job some years after leaving the White House.
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05-24-2021, 05:12 AM
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Dont really see why. Jackie was essentially a socialte.. only thing she did that was "new" was to take up a job some years after leaving the White House.
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Actually, before she married JFK, Jackie worked as a journalist and even was in London to cover Queen Elizabeth II's coronation for the Washington Times-Herald in 1953.
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05-24-2021, 05:15 AM
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Actually, before she married JFK, Jackie worked as a journalist and even was in London to cover Queen Elizabeth II's coronation for the Washington Times-Herald in 1953. 
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I think it was light journalism, of the kind that an American upper class girl did to fill in the time before getting married... Then she married Onassis, largely for his money after JFK's death and to get away from America. I dont think, in short that she had any special qualities that might make someone choose to call their child after her...
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05-24-2021, 05:18 AM
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Stranger things have happened. There's no real indication of just what Harry and Meghan are going to call their daughter. For all we know, they could decide on Desert Moonchild.
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05-24-2021, 05:20 AM
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Stranger things have happened. There's no real indication of just what Harry and Meghan are going to call their daughter. For all we know, they could decide on Desert Moonchild. 
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well yes, with most royals one can hazard a guess or 2, because they do tend to use family names.... but with them, no-one can tell what name they will go for. the only thing we can think might happen is that they'll use Diana's name.
I can't think of any reason why they would use one name more than another.. the only thing I'm fairly sure of is that they wont use a name that's well known as a royal name, like Elizabeth, Anne, Victoria, Alexandra etc.
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05-24-2021, 05:40 AM
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I would think that Camilla would classified as more "horsey" than Charles. Both of them though are very comfortable seated on a horse. Camilla, though, is just one of those people you *know* is an animal lover.
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Since the point raised was that Anne might have made the remark about Archie, because she's into "bloodlines"... I just pointed out that many of the RF are horsey. Camilla is indeed a member of the RF but I somehow didn't think that Harry was referring to someone who had married into the family who made the remark..
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05-24-2021, 08:31 AM
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I'm gonna go with:
Guanyin
why you say? It's the goddess of compassion...
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05-24-2021, 08:50 AM
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Dont really see why. Jackie was essentially a socialte.. only thing she did that was "new" was to take up a job some years after leaving the White House.
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Whatever Jackie accomplished or not she is one of the biggest icons of 20th century popular culture and the blueprint for all the First ladies that came after her. If Harry and Meghan for some reason decided to name their daughter after her they wouldn't be the first couple to do so.
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05-24-2021, 09:04 AM
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Whatever Jackie accomplished or not she is one of the biggest icons of 20th century popular culture and the blueprint for all the First ladies that came after her. If Harry and Meghan for some reason decided to name their daughter after her they wouldn't be the first couple to do so.
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True but given their tendency to at least give the impression that they admire radical or serious minded people, I think that Jackie wouldn't be high on that list. Hillary Clinton has a political career in her own right.. other First Ladies have had serious charity interests.. Jackie dressed well and did up the White House...
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05-24-2021, 01:25 PM
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Since the point raised was that Anne might have made the remark about Archie, because she's into "bloodlines"... I just pointed out that many of the RF are horsey. Camilla is indeed a member of the RF but I somehow didn't think that Harry was referring to someone who had married into the family who made the remark..
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Oh sorry. I wasn't thinking anywhere near who made a crude statement. To be honest, my opinion is that I can't really picture any of them making any kind of a derogatory remark against an unborn child. But that's just me.
You're right that the BRF members, for the most part, know good horseflesh.
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05-24-2021, 03:17 PM
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Dont really see why. Jackie was essentially a socialte.. only thing she did that was "new" was to take up a job some years after leaving the White House.
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And her sister Caroline ("Lee") married Stanisław, Prince Radziwiłł. Those were the days. Opera singers, shipping tycoons, first ladies and royalty.
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05-24-2021, 03:22 PM
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I think it was light journalism, of the kind that an American upper class girl did to fill in the time before getting married... Then she married Onassis, largely for his money after JFK's death and to get away from America. I dont think, in short that she had any special qualities that might make someone choose to call their child after her...
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Jackie Kennedy was an intelligent woman. She attended College at a time when many socialites did not attend and just became debutantes and married well. She and her children planned the Kennedy Library. Onassis wanted to marry her IMO to have a "trophy" wife as one of the most famous women on the planet. She married him for security. Apparently Jackie did get a settlement from Joseph P. Kennedy.
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05-24-2021, 05:25 PM
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Meghan is rather a Democrat by convictions, isn't she?
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05-24-2021, 05:37 PM
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She hasn't expressly come out and state her political leanings to any party but it's been obvious from her words and actions that she favors the liberal point of view.
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05-25-2021, 01:49 AM
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Anything could be used as a name. Is there any particular reason why they would use Iris? Is it very popular in the US? is it a family name?>
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Iris is a flower which blooms in the Spring. The name had been popular as a flower name for girls.
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05-25-2021, 02:43 AM
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Iris is a flower which blooms in the Spring. The name had been popular as a flower name for girls.
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At first, I thought you might have been referring to Siri, the name that Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes choose for their daughter. I don't know why they chose that name, or maybe I did, but I've forgotten it. Maybe Harry and Meghan will think of a name but flip it, like Tom and Katie did. Anaid? Airod?
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05-25-2021, 04:13 AM
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At first, I thought you might have been referring to Siri, the name that Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes choose for their daughter. I don't know why they chose that name, or maybe I did, but I've forgotten it. Maybe Harry and Meghan will think of a name but flip it, like Tom and Katie did. Anaid? Airod?
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I though that the child was called Suri, not Siri.
And I dont know how popular Iris is in the USA, but to me it always sounds like a very old fashioned name, like Violet. Though I suppose both names might be making a comeback...
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05-25-2021, 04:55 AM
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I though that the child was called Suri, not Siri.
And I dont know how popular Iris is in the USA, but to me it always sounds like a very old fashioned name, like Violet. Though I suppose both names might be making a comeback...
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Oopsie  I think you're right. It's Suri, not Siri.
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05-28-2021, 08:07 PM
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Instead of Doria, the variant of Dora could be used. Also Dorinda, which is an elaboration of Dora could be used.
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05-29-2021, 12:53 AM
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If they're going with variations, i'd still think it'd be Doriana as a combination of both their mother's names (Dory for short) (although that might remind too much of 'Finding Nemo'?)
But it's anyone's guess really isn't it  we'll know pretty soon now...
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