Names and Godparents for Harry and Meghan's second child

[soapstar]

Let’s move on from the discussion about whether godparents are a royal thing.

[MaiaMia_53]

Who knows. Maybe twins of each gender, which would be nice. Or female twins. Failing that, either a girl or another boy.

Names, I'm not sure. Whatever they choose, most likely won't be traditional.

Possibly, Alvin for a boy to honor Meghan's maternal grandfather. Victoria (Tori) Jeanette for a girl, or Doriana (combining Doria with Diana) -- Dori or Ria for short.

Maybe Alvin Tristan, for a boy.

[Curryong]

Trust me to be asleep here in Australia when this news came through! (It's now 8am.) I am SO happy for them both. Hope it's twins, a boy and a girl! A girl could have Doria in the name or Elizabeth.

[HereditaryPrincess]

After Archie, I suspect Meghan and Harry will choose another unconventional name (or for royalty, at least), so it's harder to predict this time!

[MaiaMia_53]

Originally Posted by REAL COUNTESS

If a girl they may call her Diana Doria Elisabeth or a name of the main Godparent. If a boy it may be Charles Spencer Bill, or George. Godparent the Clooney's or the Fosters, maybe even Oprah, Hillary? didn't I read they are friends.?

I sort of doubt that a boy would be named Charles, especially not as a first name. I'm not sure about godparents. But perhaps they won't be restricted this time under the rules of the Church of England. As I believe in the Church of England only godparents of Protestant or Catholic faith are chosen. That's why Archie's godparents would not be any of Meghan's friends who are Jewish (Misha, Jessica, Lindsay) or Jehovah's Witness (Serena).

I wonder with this new baby's christening happening in the U.S., whether M&H would have more leeway regarding who they choose. If so, I'd bet Oprah, Amal Clooney, Ellen, James Corden, and possibly Gloria Steinem might be in the running. Maybe Harry's good polo friend, Nacho Figueras, and possibly Tristan Harris (of The Social Dilemma), et al. The Sussexes have made some good new friends since they left Great Britain. And they are now living closer to some of their old friends.

Archie's godparents were never officially revealed, but I believe on Harry's side it's Tiggy Legge-Bourke, Charlie van Straubenzee, and Mark Dyer. On Meghan's side, I would guess Benita Litt, Genevieve Hillis, and Markus Anderson.

Originally Posted by Fijiro

A girl - Diana Frances

Hmmm, I don't think they would do that to a daughter. It's more likely combining both of their mother's names and honoring either Meghan's maternal grandmother in some respect too, such as Doriana Jeanette, or something completely unexpected in the way they chose Archie's name.

The fact that they chose 'Harrison' for Archie's middle name made me think M&H saw the name suggestion thread on TRF where a poster whose name I don't remember had the brilliant idea of 'Harrison' as a possibility. M&H were on the same page. LOL

[MaiaMia_53]

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

A girl - Lloyce after Doria (her middle name)

I wonder where the name, Lloyce originates. I'm more familiar with Joyce. I would think Joyce over Lloyce for a first name. And I'd think Jeanette is possible for a middle name to honor both Meghan's maternal grandmother (Jeanette) and her maternal great-grandmother (Netty).

Paternal grandmother's name for Meghan is Doris May. So that's even more reason for possibly Doriana Jeanette as a name for a girl. Or Doriana Joy!

Here's a genealogical chart showing some of the names on Meghan's father's side and Meghan's genealogical connection to Harry and Diana through her father. Harry & Meghan are 17th cousins, I believe:
https://media.americanancestors.org/...rkle-chart.pdf

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by MaiaMia_53

I sort of doubt that a boy would be named Charles, especially not as a first name. I'm not sure about godparents. But perhaps they won't be restricted this time under the rules of the Church of England. As I believe in the Church of England only godparents of Protestant or Catholic faith are chosen. That's why Archie's godparents would not be any of Meghan's friends who are Jewish (Misha, Jessica, Lindsay) or Jehovah's Witness (Serena).

I wonder with this new baby's christening happening in the U.S., whether M&H would have more leeway regarding who they choose. If so, I'd bet Oprah, Amal Clooney, Ellen, James Corden, and possibly Gloria Steinem might be in the running. Maybe Harry's good polo friend, Nacho Figueras, and possibly Tristan Harris (of The Social Dilemma), et al. The Sussexes have made some good new friends since they left Great Britain. And they are now living closer to some of their old friends.

Archie's godparents were never officially revealed, but I believe on Harry's side it's Tiggy Legge-Bourke, Charlie van Straubenzee, and Mark Dyer. On Meghan's side, I would guess Benita Litt, Genevieve Hillis, and Markus Anderson.



Hmmm, I don't think they would do that to a daughter. It's more likely combining both of their mother's names and honoring either Meghan's maternal grandmother in some respect too, such as Doriana Jeanette, or something completely unexpected in the way they chose Archie's name.

The fact that they chose 'Harrison' made me think they were checking the name suggestion thread here where a poster whose name I don't remember had the brilliant idea of 'Harrison' as a possibility, and M&H were on the same page. LOL

Its not a matter of not being baptized in the UK.

The baby will be baptized in the Anglican faith (since both his parents are Anglican). The same rules apply to who can be an Anglican godparent, whether baptized in a church in LA or in London. A Jewish godparent is still out of the question for a godparent. Witness is another matter.

Unless I guess Harry and Meghan both convert from Anglican faith. But I don't know any protestant/catholic church that allows a Jewish godparent.


The child may very well be baptized in the UK. They have made it known they plan to continue to have a place in England. They want their children to know both sides. Harry was baptized in the UK and he will likely want his family around for the baptism A baptism,even not for Harry and Meghan's kid, is private in the UK (we only saw photos leaving for the Cambridge kids). So they could choose the same godparents in the UK as in the US.



I don't see Lloyce as a first name. Or Doriana. Doriana maybe as a middle name if they choose to only give the baby one middle name so they can honor both grandmothers. I think we will see an original first name like Archie and something far more fashionable.

Olivia
Amelia
Ava
Sophia
Grace
Lily
Freya

Those are the top 10 most popular girls names (that aren't currently in use in the royal family as Mia, Isabella and Isla are all top 10).

boys:
Oliver
Noah
Arthur
Leo
Oscar

(other names in top 10 either in use/close like Charlie, Harry, George and Jack, and I dont see Mohammed making the list).

[Curryong]

I'm sensing it's another boy, and also think the baby may well be christened in England, with the Queen present this time. Don't know about Prince Philip as he might be at Sandringham. Harry and Meghan might ask Eugenie and Jack to be godparents which would be lovely. I like the name Leo but think they will again go for something out of the box.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

Since when is godparents a royal thing???? Its an infant baptism thing. I have never heard of an infant baptized/christened without a godparent. If you are an anibaptist and baptize later in life, then yes no on godparents.

But as Stefan points out since Archie's godparents are unknown, I doubt we will ever know this kid's.

It does exist I am just one of many examples as I don't have godparents and was christened at a few weeks old... Just like my siblings, my husband's family (raised in a different church) and most of my friends' children (from a variety of protestant denominations) don't have godparents either. Interestingly, my only friend that mentioned the godparents at their birth announcements didn't baptize his children...
Most of these churches do seem to have in common the tradition that the child is carried into the church by a close family member (or friend), however, that person doesn't have to promise anything but is allowed to sit with the parents with the baby on their lap during (part of) the service. I had the honor of doing just that for my eldest niece's christening; and was carried into the church by one of my aunts myself.

So, while indeed in many Christian denominations (especially those closest to the Roman Catholic church such as the Anglican Community and the Lutheran church if I'm not mistaken) require godparents, that isn't the case for all churches practicing infant baptism (those resulting from the Calvinist traditions do not).

It will be interesting to see whether Harry and Meghan will still choose to baptize their child and if so, in which church. Did they for example join the local Episcopalian church (which would be the most logical choice since they decided to settle in California)?

[Pranter]

Too soon to think about names? LOL

We can figure only two instead of the 3 plus sometimes seen. Sky is the limit, we know they wont stick to Traditional family names.



LaRae

[Countessmeout]

I guess it depends on the branch of Calvinism. Sponsors are still a part of many Calvinist baptisms.

It seems some branches do entrust that to the congregation instead of specific sponsors.

Originally Posted by Curryong

I'm sensing it's another boy, and also think the baby may well be christened in England, with the Queen present this time. Don't know about Prince Philip as he might be at Sandringham. Harry and Meghan might ask Eugenie and Jack to be godparents which would be lovely. I like the name Leo but think they will again go for something out of the box.

They could choose to baptize him/her at St Mary Magdalene's church like Charlotte and Eugenie were. Its also where Princess Diana was baptized. Then Philip would be easily present.

[Curryong]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

They could choose to baptize him/her at St Mary Magdalene's church like Charlotte and Eugenie were. Its also where Princess Diana was baptized. Then Philip would be easily present.

That is true. However, if the christening is in London or at Windsor I'm not sure he'd move! Perhaps Philip could be a middle name.

[Alison H]

Diana Doria's quite sweet, but it sounds like something out of a 1950s TV programme ... too many Ds and too many As!

[MaiaMia_53]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

Its not a matter of not being baptized in the UK.

The baby will be baptized in the Anglican faith (since both his parents are Anglican). The same rules apply to who can be an Anglican godparent, whether baptized in a church in LA or in London. A Jewish godparent is still out of the question for a godparent. Witness is another matter.

Unless I guess Harry and Meghan both convert from Anglican faith. But I don't know any protestant/catholic church that allows a Jewish godparent.


The child may very well be baptized in the UK.

Sure. I agree. They certainly will not be changing their faith. In the U.S. Episcopalian religion is closest to the Church of England. They will just have a bit more leeway in the friends they choose, aside from the issue of religion. If Amal's faith is Islam, then she's not a possibility.

I agree that they could have the baptism in the U.K., in order to be around Harry's extended family for the occasion. Most likely the birth will be in California, the Sunshine State and Meghan's place of birth, especially with the pandemic still restricting travel. And if travel is uncertain for many months after the baby(ies) is/are born, the christening may not take place in the U.K.

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

I don't see Lloyce as a first name. Or Doriana. Doriana maybe as a middle name if they choose to only give the baby one middle name so they can honor both grandmothers. I think we will see an original first name like Archie and something far more fashionable.

Olivia
Amelia
Ava
Sophia
Grace
Lily
Freya

Those are the top 10 most popular girls names (that aren't currently in use in the royal family as Mia, Isabella and Isla are all top 10).

boys:
Oliver
Noah
Arthur
Leo
Oscar
...

Anything is possible regarding name choices, except I can't see them saddling a daughter with Harry's mother's exact first name. And I definitely don't see Lloyce as either a first or second name.

Olivia is such a pretty name. I'd be honored if they chose that name, as it is my mother's first name.

Raina is another nice name.

[Eskimo]

First Name: Princess Diana

Middle Names: Frances Meghan

Godparents: whatever Kardashian...

Best wishes for an uneventful pregnancy and a healthy baby

[Curryong]

I think it's a boy, and Meghan has never met Kim Kardashian.

[rominet09]

No need to try and guess, we surely won't ever know.... Just like we didn't know for Archie.

[Sandy345]

Alice Diana Frances, Diana Doria Frances, Michael Philip, David Michael

[rominet09]

I think if it is a girl she will be named Diana.

[AC21091968]

I think Princess Eugenie is the most highly likely godparent from the Royal Family. Other possibilities include Prince Harry's cousins: Princess Beatrice, Peter Phillips, Zara Tindall. Lady Louise Windsor is turning 18 this year, but I'm not quite sure if she is close to Harry. James, Viscount Severn is only 13.

I'm also not sure about Harry's paternal uncles and aunts (Princess Anne, Prince Andrew and Prince Edward), but it all depends how close are they together. It's also now less likely to have the father or mother's sibling as the baby's godparent compared to the 20th Century (George VI and Queen Elizabeth as godparents to Princess Alexandra). So I think this leaves out Prince William.

Who knows if Baby Sussex will have members in the Royal Family as godparents. Maybe Harry's friends or members in the Spencer (Harry's maternal) family? Or as previous posters have mentioned, celebrities such as Fosters, Oprah or Clooneys? I think there is a high chance that the Fosters could be Baby Sussex's godparents, given that they were seen in celebrating Katherine McPhee's pregnancy