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Old 04-26-2018, 09:42 AM
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The ‘Meghan Effect’ is based on her engagement to Harry. The NYT and others werent devoting column inches to Meghan’s fashion prowess prior to Harry.

The Meghan effect, like the Kate effect, is more accurately the ‘Royal Effect’ imo
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:47 AM
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I have to agree with you here, Rudolph. Meghan Markle was definitely not a household name when it came to fashion or anything else before her relationship with a Prince of the UK became known. Its the royal connection that has really thrust her into the limelight and hence the "Meghan Effect".
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:52 AM
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The ‘Meghan Effect’ is based her engagement to Harry. The NYT and others werent devoting column inches to Meghan’s fashion prowess prior to Harry.

The Meghan effect, like the Kate effect, is more accurately the ‘Royal Effect’ imo
I agree. Before it came out that she was dating Prince Harry 99% of the public had never heard of Miss Markle. I'm not being mean, t's just the truth.
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:40 AM
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I'd never heard of her until the news broke of them dating. No one I knew (real life) had either.


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Old 04-26-2018, 10:55 AM
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I agree. Before it came out that she was dating Prince Harry 99% of the public had never heard of Miss Markle. I'm not being mean, t's just the truth.
99%? That’s generous.
I’d add a dot and some more 9’s.
Suits only has a few millions viewers worldwide (at best I would say), i’d Say maybe 2/5 of the viewers actually knew Meghan name with half of them (ie 1/5) probably we’re fans and followed her online and so forth.

She was, with all due respect, at best considered a C level actress.
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Old 04-26-2018, 11:13 AM
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I agree with this. There are many shows that I watch faithfully that have a cast of characters rather than one "star". Law and Order: SVU and NCIS among them. L&O: SVU has been on the air for 19 seasons and you could put a photo array in front of me of the actors and actresses and I'd not be able to name the majority of them. Its the same thing with Suits.

These shows with a cast of characters rather than a prime star makes it easier for the show to have flexibility and continue on seamlessly even if one character leaves the show. This is what has happened with Rachel Zane in Suits.

I wouldn't call Meghan a class "C" actress but an actress that played a role with a team because that is the way the show was set up to be. She was in integral part of the show but the show can carry on into the future without her easily.

She is garnering far more attention and publicity because she's marrying into a royal family and will have a royal role from here on out. The prime spotlight in this case is on Meghan personally for who she is and not for a role she plays.
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Old 04-26-2018, 11:18 AM
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I think the Meghan Effect and the Kate Effect are dubbed as such because it's connected to both the individuals and the royal. Not just royal. You simply don't see the Beatrice Effect or Eugenie Effect or Anne Effect and so on. So obviously, being royal by itself isn't enough. It gives a platform, but it's the individual on that platform that would make the difference.
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Old 04-26-2018, 11:19 AM
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At least Meghan was known as an actress to a few million people before the engagement. And you could say the same (about the Royal effect) for virtually everyone who seriously dates/becomes engaged to a senior Royal, couldn't you, whatever their profession, (if they had one before marriage?)

Who knew about Diana, Kate, Maxima, Mary, Mathilde etc before they became engaged to royals? The only exception to that would have been Grace Kelly, and more recently, within Spain, Letizia. The only one who has had worldwide fame to marry a Royal was Kelly.
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Old 04-26-2018, 12:18 PM
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I knew who Meghan was, followed her on social media, knew about the UN speech, watched her show occasionally and read some of her articles. I have several online friends who watched Suits and shipped Ross and Rachel.

Today its not about just being famous or on the A list but its also about your social media reach and influence. There are 500 shows in production. Not every actor is going to have name recognition but they may have social media influence.

Also another thing that matters are the demographics of the audience. Suits may not have 20 million viewers they may have 4 million viewers who are a certain age group or economic level. The show has been on for 7 years so its safe to say it delivers the audience that the network desires.
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Old 04-26-2018, 12:25 PM
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I knew who Meghan was as I was familar with the show "Suits" though I was not a loyal watcher by any means. I seen a few episodes here and there because I love Gina Torres. That said, the show has a strong following and is quite successful. There are many shows like that where you might not be a household name but within that community you are quite known. That was her. No denial her star level went through the roof with the connection to Harry, but she was hardly unknown.

I agree that Kate and Meghan Effects are due to royalty but also due to who they are connected to and the interest. As pointed out we don't see Beatrice and Sophie selling out clothing. So there is more to it.
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Old 04-26-2018, 12:43 PM
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There is hardly anyone in the British royal family though that has garnered so much instant buzz and attention as when Beatrice stepped out in *that* hat. That was a real doozy but definitely not a "Beatrice Effect".

Anyways...back to Meghan.
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Old 04-26-2018, 12:55 PM
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The Meghan and Kate effects have to do with the fantasy of being desirable enough to attract two extremely eligible men, in addition to the styles of these two women.

If they dressed like Beatrice and Eugenie, there would be no effect.
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Old 04-26-2018, 01:00 PM
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One thing for sure is that *any* woman that is highlighted to the extent that Meghan is now will bring to attention of millions a style, a fashion, a way of doing one's hair or even how to hide a bulging waistline. People see something they like and get the bright idea that its exactly what they need. This is why the "effect" has things flying off the shelves within minutes.

Why go trekking through a gazillion stores to find something you like when it pops up in a photograph right before your eyes?
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Old 04-26-2018, 06:58 PM
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I agree ACO. If Meghan's fashion didn't connect to people's taste than there would no effect so its about way more than just marrying a royal dude. Meghan's fashion is connecting with people and people are also generally interested in her as a person. I can honestly say as someone who is a big fan of Harry that if he had married Cressida or Chelsy, I wouldn't have been very interested in them as people because they didn't intrigue me the way Meghan and her experience does. Of course, being with Harry has launched Meghan into the stratosphere, but IMO people connect with who Meghan is and what she represents.

And Meghan was certainly known in her own right. She had over 1 million followers on Social Media, had brand endorsements and if you listen to that agent (who we should take with a dash of salt), she was about to sign for more endorsements. She wasn't A-List, but she had a cache coming into her engagement few other royals have had.
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Old 04-26-2018, 07:10 PM
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I think Meghan having had a highly visible career in some ways made her more accessible. If you're intrigued by Meghan and Harry's relationship, you can go find some of the content she's created over the years--her TV show, films, blog, social media, etc.
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Old 04-26-2018, 07:55 PM
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Old 04-26-2018, 11:08 PM
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I had watched a couple seasons of Suits, but I didn't know her specifically. Suits is not a TV show one has to watch every moment of to get the gist of what's going on.
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Old 04-26-2018, 11:52 PM
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She was, with all due respect, at best considered a C level actress.
Really? Who considered her so? It's a serious question. Can you say who's doing this evaluation?

Firstly, though, I am only aware of A-Listers (which has to do with bankability), and all the rest follow. You may be confusing A-Lister with the phrase B-Movie (which again is rooted in monetary issues). A B-star (if there is such a thing ) might be associated with B-Movies, not the tent-pole film star, the A-Lister, the guaranteed box office draw. There are very few of the latter, like Johnny Depp or Meryl Streep or Brad Pitt, and even then success is not always guaranteed.

A-Listers can star in B-Movies and do all the time but that then does not make them B actors, as in quality or calibre of acting. Excellent actors routinely do bread-and-butter gigs in all types of television and film, and one has to start somewhere. The breakthrough role is of legend, and doesn't always happen.

Bottom line, I have never heard of C-Actors. If you are trying to dismiss Meghan as a no-talent actress, you could just say it. I'm not sure that's what you are suggesting but if you are ascribing to her failure and lack of talent because she is not an A-Lister, you are in error imo. (The percentage of A-Listers in the business is minuscule, and is always shifting). With such reasoning you have effectively condemned the vast sea of actors to your so-named C-Actor status just because they are not tent-pole film actors. Urf!

Just my 2 cents.
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I would definitely put Meghan as a C List or even D List actress; essentially an actress who has a job but isn't making huge waves isn't being noticed by the mass amount of media outlets and 98.8% of the population wouldn't know who she was if she hadn't hit the stratosphere because of her boyfriend. It's not an insult to call Meghan C List, it's just what is.
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Old 04-27-2018, 01:29 AM
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Seems like it Xenia. I'd never heard of her till she was dating Harry. She's had fairly steady work, but she' wasn't famous. Not htat being "A List" means you're necessarily a great actor.. because it often has more to do with looks and determination.. and luck.. Meghan may well have been a good actress technically but she simply had not become a star... However I'm guessing she's a competent but far from brilliant actress... and she was employed which in a job like acting, is doing pretty well... But she wasn't famous....
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