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Old 04-14-2018, 11:11 PM
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This article from the Sun states Meghan's mother will fly to England at the end of this month:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/605498...-wedding-prep/
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Old 04-14-2018, 11:19 PM
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Yes, one has to see the actual ramifications (if any). One can't have a weeping bride. Meghan can't be put in an horrifically uncomfortable position. Of course, we are not privy to how Ms Markle has been affected by any of the published stories.
She might be fine and used to family outbursts. ??
In any case, the palace protocol advisers and protection officers and older members of Meghan and Harry's families will be the best people with whom to discuss these invitation problems. We will see on the day ... hopefully a happy couple surrounded by happy guests.
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Old 04-14-2018, 11:32 PM
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Yes, one has to see the actual ramifications (if any). One can't have a weeping bride. Meghan can't be put in an horrifically uncomfortable position. Of course, we are not privy to how Ms Markle has been affected by any of the published stories.
She might be fine and used to family outbursts. ??
In any case, the palace protocol advisers and protection officers and older members of Meghan and Harry's families will be the best people with whom to discuss these invitation problems. We will see on the day ... hopefully a happy couple surrounded by happy guests.
I donít know ANYONE who would be fine with having extended family that they havenít seen or talk to in years show this level of obsession and indiscretion about their private life in public. Even if they are used to outbursts. She might not let it get to her, but thatís far from being fine with this type of intrusion by people that hasnít been in her life or know anything about it for years. I donít see Meghan and the type that needs her parents to tell her what to do on something as simple as whether or not she wants to invite people she hasnít spoken to in almost two decades to her own wedding. And quite frankly, thatís all that matters here in regards to which members of the Markle family to invite to the wedding: what Meghan wants.

Just what do these extended family member think will happen by telling Tom Sr to demand answers from Buckingham Palace? Do they actually expect Tom Sr to have contact information for BP? Do they expect the Queen to ride her Rolls Royce into KP and knock on NottCottís door and tell Meghan to invite her extended family that she hasnít seen in almost two decades to her wedding even though she didnít see it as necessary or want to?

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It is not unusual for older relatives to not know the contact details of younger ones, with the advent of facebook often young people no longer spread their phone and address.
It is also not unusual for family to live their own lives and not see each other for a while but still feel close as kin and be there for one another if ever they call. Families give each other space. I find it rude if Meghan has not invited her non criminal relatives. Even if they are a genuine threat the police checks will quietly intervene. To not invite quite close relatives is to have no faith nor hope in a future relationship. Your family is your family, embarrassing or not. To be ashamed or not welcoming is not to live a life of forgiveness and good manners. No other person has the power to make you mean spirited except yourself. Meghan's sister is mean. Does Meghan have to be mean back? Our royal family should be an example of kindness.
Just out of curiosity, how is not inviting people you havenít seen in almost two decades to your wedding mean spirited? I would feel extremely weird getting an invitation from someone that I havenít seen or talked to for that long. Iím not even including the accusations that they were racist to her mother here.

As for not knowing her contact info, I highly doubt that. Itís clear that Meghanís dad has Meghanís contact information as she and Harry have spoken to him. And they obviously have his contact information. So if Tom Sr. Felt that itís necessary for them to talk, he wouldíve facilitated that by now. Btw, this is the uncle that Samantha said leaked Tomís location to the tabloids with help from Tom Jr. Donít know how accurate that is, but this whole thing just smell like 3 day old fish.
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Old 04-15-2018, 12:37 AM
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I’m actually sure that the moment these people started blabbing to the press and selling any bit of info they had on Meghan they were blacklisted by royal staff. There is no way the Queen or Charles would allow someone so chummy with tabloids into their home or to attend their private parties. Discretion is the name of the game when it comes to all royals.
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Old 04-15-2018, 12:51 AM
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And where or when does it all end once Meghan and the royals start to give in to these people? These people have shown they have no shame and will use any means of manipulation at their disposal like stamping their trotters all the way to the papers. It’ll be demands for invites to trooping before we know it. We are seeing a little of what they are capable of and it honestly wouldn’t surprise me to see them all on major TV networks. I hope Meghan holds steadfast in whatever she decides or has decided. She knows those folk better than we do. Their sense of entitlement to Meghan’s life is just staggering. And I’m sorry but I am not going to beat around the bush, In my opinion Markle Sr is not so innocent in all this as some would like to believe.
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Old 04-15-2018, 01:44 AM
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@King of the Jungle - when those outbursts include racial slurs hurled at you and your mother, that's a hurt that doesn't go away, especially when done by family. And an invitation to an high profile wedding doesn't fix that hurt. And where was that family when Meghan and Harry when the anthrax scare happened? If they didn't reach out to her during that episode that may have been it for the family right there.

I'm glad Doria will be spending time with Meghan and Harry before the wedding. Staying at Not Cott, meeting the Queen and Prince Charles. The Markles are going to rage about that. Frankly, I think the nephew's weed business will disqualify the Markles from getting any official recognition they are linked to the BRF by marriage. I still can't believe Dooley the nephew was dumb enough to go to the Daily Mail and announce to the world he has a three million illegal (in the UK and parts of the US) drug enterprise.
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Old 04-15-2018, 02:04 AM
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Sarah Rafferty (Suits co star) flat out said she still talks to Meghan. So if Meghan wanted people to have her contact info then you would have it. The end. These "family" members haven't been active in her life in YEARS. They only care now because if it benefits them to claim her. That is it.
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Old 04-15-2018, 02:24 AM
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These people demanding an invitation is ridiculous. None of them needed to be invited! If Meghan had invited them, all would have expected plane tickets, their hotels, and clothes paid for etc. And I am sure they wouldn't know how to behave in public. They are an embarrassment.
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Old 04-15-2018, 07:09 AM
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These people demanding an invitation is ridiculous. None of them needed to be invited! If Meghan, had invited them, all what have expected plane tickets, their hotels, and clothes paid for etc. And I am sure they won't know how to behave in public. They are an embarrassment.
Not hotels, about accommodations at Kensington or Windsor Castle. It's at the point that I doubt even Tom Sr will be at the wedding because of the Markle attention seeking. He can't or won't talk to his family about their behavior.
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Old 04-15-2018, 07:39 AM
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Not hotels, about accommodations at Kensington or Windsor Castle. It's at the point that I doubt even Tom Sr will be at the wedding because of the Markle attention seeking. He can't or won't talk to his family about their behavior.
It would be ridiculous for anyone with even half a brain to feel that Tom, Sr. should curb, curtail and/or monitor the behavior of grown adults that just happen to be his children. By the time someone reached adulthood, any and all consequences for their actions are on them and them alone.
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Old 04-15-2018, 08:20 AM
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Not hotels, about accommodations at Kensington or Windsor Castle. It's at the point that I doubt even Tom Sr will be at the wedding because of the Markle attention seeking. He can't or won't talk to his family about their behavior.
What does Tom Sr being at the wedding have anything to do with the extended family? From what weíve seen and heard, Tom is a simple man with a private life and minds his own business. He is, by all accounts, in his daughterís life, and thatís why he would be at the wedding. What does Meghan not inviting relatives she hasnít seen in almost two decades have to do with his attendance?

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I'm glad Doria will be spending time with Meghan and Harry before the wedding. Staying at Not Cott, meeting the Queen and Prince Charles. The Markles are going to rage about that. Frankly, I think the nephew's weed business will disqualify the Markles from getting any official recognition they are linked to the BRF by marriage. I still can't believe Dooley the nephew was dumb enough to go to the Daily Mail and announce to the world he has a three million illegal (in the UK and parts of the US) drug enterprise.
TBF, thatís a legitimate business where he is and thatís actually earning a legitimate living. Legal in UK or not. Pot growers pay taxes just like everyone else (actually, they are at more disadvantageous situation there, but we wonít go into that). Weíve seen people linked to someone in the royal family snorting illegal substance and heís still invited to family events that some royals attend. And of course, Harry himself has used recreational pot when he was younger. So I really donít think the royal family has any room to judge. His issues are that Meghan hasnít seen or talked to him in years and heís sold her out the first chance he got. Unless he does it on federal property or uses federal clearing houses, there is no reason why he canít say that out loud. Itís not like the Fed can do anything about it as long as he goes through proper channel.
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Old 04-15-2018, 08:57 AM
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Not hotels, about accommodations at Kensington or Windsor Castle. It's at the point that I doubt even Tom Sr will be at the wedding because of the Markle attention seeking. He can't or won't talk to his family about their behavior.
It makes no sense to me to think one adult can control another adult's behavior. Tom Sr's behavior is just fine-he's not responsible for his attention seeking, grasping relatives. He certainly isn't attention seeking.
And it doesn't seem like he has much contact with his extended family anyway-not that we really know if they Skype, email or phone.
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Old 04-15-2018, 09:06 AM
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Hey Markle family - if you are reading this, please chill out.

You can take pride in being not invited to the wedding. The Royal Family has a tradition of not inviting family.
"While Philipís mother attended the wedding, the groomís three sistersówho had married German men who were thought to have Nazi tiesówere not invited. Elizabethís uncle, the former King Edward VIII, who had abdicated the throne, was also noticeably missing."
-https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/04/queen-elizabeth-prince-philip-wedding.

Perhaps spend some time on the wedding day reading about the many ways the Royal Family has ignored and will continue to ignore anyone they see fit. Your local/online library should give you access to lots of good reading material on the subject.
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Old 04-15-2018, 09:15 AM
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I also don't think it's Tom Sr's responsibility to control his adult relatives, children, brothers etc. I HIGHLY doubt Samantha would get quiet, too much money to be made by every interview she gives. She's already trying to paint herself as the wronged one, like the other Markles, in her opinion she has done nothing wrong. In her very entitled opinion she has the right to everything Meghan is getting due to her being the elder sister and all that. I doubt their father talking to Samantha would change any of that entitled attitude.
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Old 04-15-2018, 09:57 AM
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Samantha Markle has set up a business of selling out Meghan. She gets paid for each and every interview she gives. No doubt she has made some big money out of Meghan and Harry's relationship, and plans to continue to do so. She's not seeking for forgiveness or a future relationship with Meghan. She's seeking out every opportunity to make money, while selling Meghan out. That's no family.

Added to this her and her brother competing in tabloids who was more racist toward Meghan and Meghan's mother, yeah. That's no family.
Its funny how they make money off of Meghan while complaining about MM not giving them money to fund their businesses.
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Old 04-15-2018, 11:19 AM
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Not hotels, about accommodations at Kensington or Windsor Castle. It's at the point that I doubt even Tom Sr will be at the wedding because of the Markle attention seeking. He can't or won't talk to his family about their behavior.
Thomas Sr. is Meghan's father. What do you mean?? Of course he will be there. And the actions of his other grown children are not his fault nor Meghan's.

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What does Tom Sr being at the wedding have anything to do with the extended family? From what weíve seen and heard, Tom is a simple man with a private life and minds his own business. He is, by all accounts, in his daughterís life, and thatís why he would be at the wedding. What does Meghan not inviting relatives she hasnít seen in almost two decades have to do with his attendance?

Thank you!! I agree 100%.
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Old 04-15-2018, 11:44 AM
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Thomas Sr. is Meghan's father. What do you mean?? Of course he will be there. And the actions of his other grown children are not his fault nor Meghan's.
Well he was still her father when she got married the first time around, and he wasnít there. Still, I best leave it at that and Iím sure we will see him proudly walking her down the aisle at St Georgeís.
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Old 04-15-2018, 11:54 AM
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We appear to be overlapping discussions in two threads - this thread is to discuss general news and information about Meghan's family. To discuss who among her family might attend the wedding, this can be done in the Harry and Meghan: Wedding Suggestions and Musings - The Royal Forums thread.
Please try not to confuse the two subjects. Thank you.
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Old 04-15-2018, 11:57 AM
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Individual 'miscreant' behaviour by an individual member of the BRF is [widely] viewed as different from 'acknowledging' a business that remains against the law in this country. I think [and hope] HMQ will take a 'dim view' of Mr Dooley attending.
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Well he was still her father when she got married the first time around, and he wasnít there. Still, I best leave it at that and Iím sure we will see him proudly walking her down the aisle at St Georgeís.
Do we know that for certain?

We haven't seen pictures of him at her first wedding, but the pictures we have seen were sold by Priddy, who was trying to push a particular angle.

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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