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03-26-2018, 08:41 AM
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Not everyone is enamored with where they grew up. Southern California has it’s fans, but there are downsides, like the traffic, the smog, the mind numbing sameness of never ending tract homes interspersed with near identical shopping venues, the lack of seasons. I’m reminded of Gertrude Stein’s description of Oakland whenever I’ve spent time down there (I’m a native of northern CA) ‘there is no there there.’
I think it’s telling that Meghan doesn’t seem to have returned to SoCal very often after she moved to Toronto for Suits.
It’ll be interesting to see what the couple does for the holidays going forward, unlike the Middletons, Meghan’s parents don’t have living situations that would easily accommodate Meghan, Harry, their children and the RPOs.
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Exactly.
To be fair I have seen a few pics of Meghan back in the States since she moved to Canada. But I have seen more (via Instagram / press) of her in other places, too. 
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03-26-2018, 08:51 AM
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Daily Mail is reporting Meghan's nephew and mom ( Tom Jr's ex wife) have not received invitations to the wedding, but they will be guests of Good Morning Britain at Windsor. The comments are none too kind and I think the public see the Markles as opportunists. Rightfully so.
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Just on a whim and for something to do while drinking my morning coffee, I let my fingers do some walking and from what I've found, it seems like the Daily Fail may just have their facts twisted in regards to Tom Jr's ex-wife and Good Morning Britain. This is what I found. It it recent and only posted today.
https://www.mcduffieprogress.com/lif...151c63cf1.html
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03-26-2018, 08:52 AM
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Meghan spent a bit of time back in LA and when she did it was usually staying with the close girlfriends. Meghan didn't post many pictures of her with them but they would of her on their own personal IG accounts as it was in their home with their kids. Meghan likely didn't feel comfortable posting that kind of stuff to her followers. But that just goes to show that likely when she does go back to LA that she will be extremely careful in how she goes about it. I do suspect Doria will find herself in London more than Meghan will be in LA.
As for the Markles? They are disgusting and not even surprised they are exploiting it. I did get a laugh when the interview flat out called them out on the fact they were expecting an invite after not seeing someone for 20 years. Pathetic is an understatement. But to fly out to cover a wedding of a woman who probably can't even remember your name? Lowest of low and shame on GMB!
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03-26-2018, 09:15 AM
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These distant, estranged relatives just continue to embarrass themselves. Someone who hasn't seen Meghan in 20 years has the audacity to go on and do an interview and even hint, that they expected a wedding invitation. Seriously?! And the nephew hasn't talked to Meghan for more than 3 years, hasn't seen her in six. What are they on, what's feeding their delusions? I highly doubt rolling these people into their studio for wedding commentary will bring in any viewers. Shame on GMB, tbh.
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03-26-2018, 09:33 AM
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The press knows that these people have no current contact with Meghan and they have not spoken in years. They just want to use these shameless money hungry people to shame Meghan. Its funny how the daily fail tried to paint Meghan's mother as a gangster which was a blatant lie, yet the OTHER side is the only one speaking.
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03-26-2018, 11:26 AM
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No problem with diversity in London or Birmingham. I think the school Prince George attends the students speak over 19 languages.
The Sussex children certainly won’t grow up only see white kids.
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Diversity isn't just about skin colour.
It's also about class, income, cultural background, religion etc... which, I'd say, is a challenge to any member of a royal family - how do you give your child a top education and at the same time expose them to other people than those in an elite milieu.
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03-26-2018, 11:27 AM
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03-26-2018, 11:37 AM
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The press knows that these people have no current contact with Meghan and they have not spoken in years. They just want to use these shameless money hungry people to shame Meghan. Its funny how the daily fail tried to paint Meghan's mother as a gangster which was a blatant lie, yet the OTHER side is the only one speaking.
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I agree that this is likely the root of all the publicity given to these folks.  But I doubt they are getting a scale of money that satisfies 'money hungry'. More complicated motives afoot from both sides methinks.
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No problem with diversity in London or Birmingham. I think the school Prince George attends the students speak over 19 languages. The Sussex children certainly won’t grow up only see white kids.
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Not sure why my comments would necessitate a 'defense' of London's diversity. My waxing lyrical regarding LA was not then a diss of London. Had me flummoxed there for a bit with your response.
Really interesting to see the responses. 
I find the rationales given for the stated expectations regarding how they live their private lives chilling. Harry lost two previous girlfriends because of public hounding (there were likely other reasons but public hounding played its part). The public making overmuch of personal decisions related to Meghan's foreign roots could well be a wedge that causes disruption in the marriage into the future. Not saying it will but it certainly could.
I stand by my view that Meghan will likely want to expose her children to her American sensibilities. Having a home base in LA makes sense for a whole raft of reasons and I hope they do it.  There are other royals, and have been other royals, who own properties outside of Britain, so why Harry and Meghan should be penalized in public opinion for doing the same is a puzzle to me.
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03-26-2018, 11:44 AM
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I don't know if Meghan will want to keep a home in LA as she didn't do that while living in Toronto. She certainly had enough time off to keep a second home in LA if she wished. I'm sure any children they might have will visit for vacations, but I don't know if that'll be enough for them to decide if they want to maintain a permanent home rather than renting out a place in a secure neighborhood when they do visit.
I would question the outcry if they want to privately fund a second home. After all, unless something changes drastically, the children will be born as dual citizens. And once they are grown up, I wouldn't be so sure they'll renounce as they'll be private citizens and might find living in US easier than in UK.
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03-26-2018, 11:52 AM
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Diversity isn't just about skin colour.
It's also about class, income, cultural background, religion etc... which, I'd say, is a challenge to any member of a royal family - how do you give your child a top education and at the same time expose them to other people than those in an elite milieu.
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Easy. By example. Actually families like William and Kate with their children have the advantage of setting an example. When mommy or daddy go to "work", the kids get a general idea of what mommy and daddy are doing. Hence, I disagree that a royal family has a challenge when it comes to experiencing and teaching their children about diversity.
An prime example is how Charles and Diana raised their boys. They had the very best in education and affluent home life but were also exposed to the everyday world at times like with Centrepoint. The days of little royals living secluded behind palace walls and sheltered away at "elite" school away from the hoi polloi are just about over.
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03-26-2018, 11:57 AM
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I don't know if Meghan will want to keep a home in LA as she didn't do that while living in Toronto. She certainly had enough time off to keep a second home in LA if she wished.
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As a single person it didn't make sense to maintain two households when she could stay at her mother's easily enough when she visited, or with friends. JMO. She was renting in Toronto. Why buy in LA? Who knows where her next gig might have taken her? Atlanta, Georgia. Romania. Never know. In her case her next gig has turned out to be London. 
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I'm sure any children they might have will visit for vacations, but I don't know if that'll be enough for them to decide if they want to maintain a permanent home rather than renting out a place in a secure neighborhood when they do visit.
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True enough. It will depend on what they find most comfortable. I was positing a house purchase mainly for the sake of Doria. Just an idea.
There is another option and that is to have access to the home of wealthy friends on a regular basis. That certainly could be arranged and would give continuity and security for the children. Tumbling about for children is never good in the long haul. (It's why some celebrities choose to have houses in various locales in my experience).
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I would question the outcry if they want to privately fund a second home. After all, unless something changes drastically, the children will be born as dual citizens. And once they are grown up, I wouldn't be so sure they'll renounce as they'll be private citizens and might find living in US easier than in UK.
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Agree.  Especially given other royals have owned and do own properties outside the UK. It would seem a double standard is operating.
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03-26-2018, 11:59 AM
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This IS a genuine issue, but has [in the past] been addressed by 'gap year' periods for some of the Princes, in the Commonwealth, or [equally valid and useful] in the armed forces, where persons of EVERY 'station' are to be found.
I myself was educated at an 'elite' school in England, and the 'social' [altho' NOT 'racial'] mix WAS narrow. The only time some boys experienced 'another life' was when their Father went Bankrupt and they promptly left for a less expensive milieu.
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03-26-2018, 12:29 PM
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This IS a genuine issue, but has [in the past] been addressed by 'gap year' periods for some of the Princes, in the Commonwealth, or [equally valid and useful] in the armed forces, where persons of EVERY 'station' are to be found.
I myself was educated at an 'elite' school in England, and the 'social' [altho' NOT 'racial'] mix WAS narrow. The only time some boys experienced 'another life' was when their Father went Bankrupt and they promptly left for a less expensive milieu.
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Wyevale do you mind me asking if your family it titled? If you'd rather not say that's okay
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03-26-2018, 01:20 PM
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I agree that this is likely the root of all the publicity given to these folks. But I doubt they are getting a scale of money that satisfies 'money hungry'. More complicated motives afoot from both sides methinks.
Not sure why my comments would necessitate a 'defense' of London's diversity. My waxing lyrical regarding LA was not then a diss of London. Had me flummoxed there for a bit with your response.
Really interesting to see the responses.
I find the rationales given for the stated expectations regarding how they live their private lives chilling. Harry lost two previous girlfriends because of public hounding (there were likely other reasons but public hounding played its part). The public making overmuch of personal decisions related to Meghan's foreign roots could well be a wedge that causes disruption in the marriage into the future. Not saying it will but it certainly could.
I stand by my view that Meghan will likely want to expose her children to her American sensibilities. Having a home base in LA makes sense for a whole raft of reasons and I hope they do it. There are other royals, and have been other royals, who own properties outside of Britain, so why Harry and Meghan should be penalized in public opinion for doing the same is a puzzle to me. |
Which bits did you find chilling? I find the opinions posters have given so far, fair and reasonable. People marrying into BRF or royalty in general understand what that would entail particularly in this modern era. Of course certain boundaries have to be adhered to, but conversely there are also opportunities to be had, as in, bigger platforms to engage in charitable work. Something that interests Meghan greatly and which this happily in love couple share in common, amongst other things. That to me, outweighs any political restriction, negatives, a great deal.
Before Meghan, Harry had a couple of serious on/off very volatile relationships. And with one he seemed too young to settle down, anyway. Being hounded by the press goes with the territory when one is engaged in a high profile relationship or career. The other has since gone into acting, a media/press-publicity-driven world riddled with paps a-plenty, so publicity/hounding couldn’t have been that much of a problem then.
Harry has now met the right woman in Meghan and likewise she, him. My opinion is that he previously hadn’t met someone he was genuinely willing to commit to plus he had issues which has now been dealt with. These two have both matured and experienced the world, learned from past mistakes I’m sure and know what they want. This will certainly put them in good stead.
Personally I find the ‘extreme culture shock’ some have spoken of and this “unsuitability” “incompatibility” predicted of this couple far exaggerated. And rather odd. Meghan is well traveled and adapts easily plus she is living here now and doing just fine. She has friends here and has visited several times before. One of her close compatriots is married to an Englishman and lives here as well as do many North Americans. Granted, they aren’t all married into British royalty, but there is one and she seems to be handling it just fine.
You did mention Mary of Denmark, well she has a much bigger role as a future queen and she’s come all the way from down under. I don’t need to point out the various other similarities on the continent. These ladies have taken to royalty like ducks to water.
Her Majesty has given Meghan her support, so as HRH Prince Charles, and of course her loving fiancé and I’m sure several other members of the RF. That is what counts. And I must say Meghan excels herself ‘shutting out the noise’ 
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03-26-2018, 01:43 PM
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Samantha, Tyler and his mom are invited over as guests for these shows to be punching bags. These shows know how the public feels about them and I think they are being set up for viewers to tear into them on live TV and put up live mean Tweets as to get their reactions. One of the late night shows in the US has a segment called Mean Tweets. The target is a celebrity and that person reads the tweet about him or her (and they have been vicious) in front of a studio audience, broadcasting live. These shows are competing for viewers on that day. The GMB host just laid the groundwork.
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03-26-2018, 01:52 PM
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Its been years since I've watched a late night "talk" show or programs like Good Morning (whereveryouare) and from what I've just read, I'm not missing anything at all worthwhile.
All I know is that I'm going to be selective in where I watch and stream the wedding on May 19th. I prefer wedding coverage and not a gaggle of talking heads trying to get the focus on themselves.
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Well, he's got a long wait ahead of him because it's NEVER happening. 
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