Meghan Markle: Family and Background - November 2017-May 2018

[Lady Nimue]

The mention of 'race' as to do with skin color only came into being in the late 1600's. It's a very recent concept solely to do with the slave trade.

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by Lady Nimue

I've been absent from the forums for a (short) bit, but long or short it's always hard to catch up on all the postings. So I am not up-to-date on why Meghan's father's presence at the wedding is being questioned. Something to do with his health? But not sure why that got floated as a point of discussion.

Anyway, if the question regarding his presence is valid I think Prince Charles would be a great substitute.

I could be wrong (of course) but it's possible Meghan's mother may not want such a front-and-center role, either. I could see both parents declining and for very sensible reasons. Meghan may be entering the royal fish bowl, but they are definitely not. They are not British subjects, and have very modest and ordinary lives. They likely would want to support Meghan in every way but participating in this massive elevation in public status may not be anything they want to wrangle, and understandably. Meghan is making this choice for herself alone.

This is not to say her parents would not attend, just not choose to be part of the panoply. This is so far beyond walking one's daughter down the aisle at the village church. Neither parent is interested in the spotlight, that is clear. The wedding is pageantry for the masses, let it be within the confines of that world, with Prince Charles as the escort, leaving her parents the comfort of not having to 'perform'. Just some thoughts.

There have always been rumors, mainly because people have branded him a 'recluse' because he is in Mexico and the media cant hound him, that his health is bad. But recent rumors have come out, Tom Jr's ex Erin. Erin has said that his weight and blood pressure means he wont be able to fly. I don't know how far we trust her in that.

https://www.newidea.com.au/meghan-ma...eatens-wedding

[sndral]

Originally Posted by MaiaMia_53

...Ancient Europeans who migrated out of Africa even intermixed with Neanderthals prior to the Neanderthals completely dying out since humans were more evolved and had larger brains. Science knows this due to advances in DNA technology.

Homo neanderthalensis actually had larger brains than Homo sapiens, that doesn’t necessarily mean they were smarter than Homo sapiens, tho’.

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by loonytick

Now, a long flight might be a problem for him if he has certain conditions. He may not be able to safely travel all the way to the UK. But if he can, I have a hard time thinking a walk down the aisle would really be beyond his capability.

For all we know, with Meghan's dad being retired, he may take the scenic route to the wedding and take a transatlantic cruise across the pond if his health doesn't deem it possible for him to fly.

Fact is, we really know next to nothing when it comes to concrete and credible facts in this regard.

[MaiaMia_53]

Originally Posted by sndral

Homo neanderthalensis actually had larger brains than Homo sapiens, that doesn’t necessarily mean they were smarter than Homo sapiens, tho’.

Right, thanks. Humans were simply smarter and more evolved than Neanderthals who were brawnier, but did not have very intelligent brains.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Lady Nimue

The mention of 'race' as to do with skin color only came into being in the late 1600's. It's a very recent concept solely to do with the slave trade.

Exactly. Furthermore, skin color is not a good predictor of genetic similarity as two people with different skin colors can be genetically closer than two people with the same skin color.

The bottom line is that "race", as far as humans are concerned, is just a social and historic construct that has little to do with biology. It is a disservice to humanity that we keep reinforcing that non-scientific concept in our culture rather than ignoring it and promoting an alternative color-blind culture. My criticism extends to both "blacks" and "whites" in that respect, especially in the US culture.

[Jacknch]

Please note that a large number of posts discussing the Royal Wedding have been moved to the http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ngs-43846.html thread. Lets stay on topic here and discuss only Meghan's family and background.

[Rudolph]

Tom sr and a mystery blonde Front Page Of Mirror


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZAQ5HRX...pg&name=medium

[royal rob]

I hope once the wedding is over everyone leaves this man alone. I have started to think he won’t be at the wedding

[Curryong]

I'd like to know what business it is of the Mirror who Tom snr chooses to have a meal with? How do they know it's 'a date', they could have known each other for years. And Tom is a private citizen who's been divorced for decades anyway, so if he chooses to eat at a restaurant with a dozen young mums that is entirely up to him!

[Lady Nimue]

'She' may not even be sitting with him and/or could be a male friend Completely bogus headline (and possibly picture).

[Gawin]

An interview with Meghan Markle's half-sister Samantha Grant, published on the Expressen website (Swedish tabloid) on March 21:

https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/kun...-pa-brollopet/

[TLLK]

Originally Posted by Curryong

I'd like to know what business it is of the Mirror who Tom snr chooses to have a meal with? How do they know it's 'a date', they could have known each other for years. And Tom is a private citizen who's been divorced for decades anyway, so if he chooses to eat at a restaurant with a dozen young mums that is entirely up to him!

Thank you for saying this Curryong!!

[Cocoasneeze]

Samantha is basically begging for an invitation, blames tabloids (and stupid people) for misinterpreting her old book title, they should've known she was mocking labels etc. She also blamed tabloids for misinterpreting her hateful criticism of Meghan when the relationship became public. She claims she has always been in Meghan's corner. She also said that she has a gift for Meghan, something Meghan (according to Samantha) has wanted since she was a little girl. She also blamed Meghan's busy schedule for their rift. According to Samantha, Tom Sr has received oral invitation, but no one in the family has received the letter (Duh!).

Yes, I google translated it. IMHO it's her attempt to score an invitation, which IMHO won't happen.

[Osipi]

I agree with Curryong. No matter what the circumstances the put Tom and anyone else in the same place, the media has absolutely no right to infringe on their privacy and make assumptions just to draw interest and the clink of coins into their pockets.

Originally Posted by Cocoasneeze

Samantha is basically begging for an invitation, blames tabloids (and stupid people) for misinterpreting her old book title, they should've known she was mocking labels etc. She also blamed tabloids for misinterpreting her hateful criticism of Meghan when the relationship became public. She claims she has always been in Meghan's corner. She also said that she has a gift for Meghan, something Meghan (according to Samantha) has wanted since she was a little girl. She also blamed Meghan's busy schedule for their rift. According to Samantha, Tom Sr has received oral invitation, but no one in the family has received the letter (Duh!).

Yes, I google translated it. IMHO it's her attempt to score an invitation, which IMHO won't happen.

Sounds like a lot of crying over spilled milk if you ask me. IF this is Samanatha's sincerity at work and she honestly believes that the media done her wrong and pushed her away from getting a wedding invitation, I have a piece of swampland in Florida she'd be easy to load off on.

I expect more of the same as the wedding date approaches. She can whine, bitch and moan until the cows come home but actions speak much louder than words and if she's not received her invitation, there's nothing that is going to change that cold, hard fact.

I'm going to guess that the gift Samantha has for Meghan is (drumroll) a tiara. Every little girl wants a tiara.

[Madame Verseau]

Originally Posted by Gawin

An interview with Meghan Markle's half-sister Samantha Grant, published on the Expressen website (Swedish tabloid) on March 21:

https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/kun...-pa-brollopet/

I mentioned this on a separate thread, but I should have pulled it here. On March 19 it was announced the invitations have been mailed. Two days later, March 21, Sam does an interview with a Swedish tabloid. I translated the article - Sam is "apologizing" for trashing Meghan in the media and she still wants to go to the wedding. I think Kensington Palace contacted her separately before the invitations were mailed, telling her she is not invited and why. (Tom Jr may have received a similar communication.). Fearing that it will be announced by KP that she's not on the guest list, with probably embarrassing and damaging information (that can be proven) about Samantha coming out as reasons, Sam goes to the press as a preemptive strike. I'm not saying the palace will leak dirt on Sam, but I bet she's afraid it will now that queen gave official consent to have Meghan join the BRF.

When Sam sits at home watching the wedding on TV, she only has herself to blame. She'll really be upset if Meghan's maternal family have invitations and are seated in St George's Chapel.

[jacqui24]

I highly doubt KP had to tell her she's not invited, and I highly doubt a transatlantic interview is set up in two days consider they have to come terms with the payment and information to be shared. At this point, the whole world pretty much wouldn't be surprised she's invited. I doubt KP would have any contact with them given that they can turn right around and tell the media what happened.

[Osipi]

What it all boils down to is that this is Harry and Meghan's day and they're inviting who they want to be there. There is absolutely no obligation of any kind for Harry and Meghan to invite to their wedding any person that has blatantly come out as "selling Meghan out" to the press. Regardless of how Samantha sees it.

Logic tells any rational person that a person that will dish over and over again to the tabloids would be very prone to run to the tabloids about private details of the wedding. Experience has proven this to be a genuine concern.

Kensington Palace and the staff employed there are above "dishing" out on Samantha Grant. To just state that "No. She is not invited" will suffice. Harry and Meghan owe no explanation to anybody in regards to who they invite or don't invite.

Samantha created this mess she's found herself in and will just have to deal with it. The wedding will be beautiful without her presence there.

[Cocoasneeze]

I don't think KP will issue any statements why Samantha & co aren't invited. That would just give the ammo to go to the tabloids again. Ignore them, as they've done so far, and soon no one will pay them any attention, because they'll have nothing left to say.

[Osipi]

I fully expect a new round of onslaught against Meghan for not inviting her "dear, sweet sister" to her wedding and Samantha moaning and groaning on how Meghan has snubber her and looked down on "family" as she social climbs her way to the top echelons of British society.

And, as always, the tabloids are going to be right there to eat it up lock, stock and barrel. Harry and Meghan will go on with their lives and live happily ever after and pay it no mind whatsoever. Lots of other better things to think about and talk about than a half sister with the PLOMS. (Poor Little Ol' Me Syndrome).

People also will eat it up as entertainment. I do have to admit that the latest and craziest machinations of Samantha Grant beat articles of Pippa riding a bicycle or walking her dogs and Cressida Bonas perpetually leaving the theater or the latest gig that Lady Kitty Spencer has attended but that's just me.