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Old 05-17-2018, 09:53 AM
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Oh my, this whole mess has shown what some families do to put the "FUN" in "dysfunctional!" I'm not going to waste my time with the myriad messed-up half siblings, their noise-making, etc. What I would like to say is this: My cardiologist told me the last time I saw him that I cannot go on an airplane. No room for argument, I can't go see my kids in Wyoming. MAYBE a short 2-1/2 hr. flight to NY from Florida, but that would be pushing it. Being a paraplegic and having lots more issues with airlines and destroyed wheelchairs, no, I don't think air travel is in my future. I have two heart conditions, and am waiting for one or the other to get worse (first) before needing surgery. If Mr. Markle Sr. is having ANY kind of a cardiac procedure done a couple of days before his daughter's wedding it would (99.999%) probably be suicidal to get on an airplane from Mexico to the UK. I am not reading anything from the tabloids anymore, they're such liars. I hope to be able to watch the Royal Wedding early Saturday and pray that the newlyweds enjoy a long, healthy and happy life together. Enjoy the wedding watching folks!
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Not even bothering to read it because in the span of two days he has flip flopped his opinion. I laughed at Dickie calling him out on twitter. His show and former paper is the cause for A LOT of the coverage. The Samantha and the Dooley's were on his show how many time? Piers can hush.

Anyways... Charles and Camila were spotted arriving and leaving KP with flowers. They were obviously going to meet Doria. Seems she likely also met with the Cambridges as well.
I didn't bother to read it either. Honestly I'm bored with all of the "KP should have done this or that, or Meghan should have done this or that" from these royal tabloid people.

That's pretty much over - now that the real event has happened these haterrific people from Meghan's paternal side of the family can go away and be relegated to the dustbin of history where they belong.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:53 AM
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Ah, it looks like it isn't a rehearsal. It would seem the entire family is meeting Doria.

The Queen just arrived as well.

https://twitter.com/MajestyMagazine/...12665288859648
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:55 AM
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Article by Piers Morgan on DM. Think what you like but I think it's SPOT ON

PIERS MORGAN: The Royals have let this wedding turn into a mess | Daily Mail Online
In hindsight, Thomas Markle Sr. definitely needed more guidance from the Palace. But...Doria Ragland got exactly the same amount of help and SHE hasn't colluded with press.

As for the siblings...how do you control crazy? I suspect that's why Meghan chose not to invite them to the wedding in the first place. She knows them very well, we don't, and neither does Piers Morgan. Imagine all the "inside scoops" they would have sold to the press. And it wouldn't have stopped there, they would have expected even more invitations - to christenings, to check out the new apartment at KP, etc. and the minute Meghan tried to shut them out we'd see exactly what we are seeing now.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:57 AM
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What happened to never complain, never explain?

The relationship between BRF and press is cathastrophic and has been for a very long time. A recipy for desaster if you mix it with a bride who - partly due to her profession - has always courted and used the press for her own purposes.

I guess it has dawned on Meghan now what price she will have to pay for the wedding with Harry.
Tbh, I'm a really big fan of the "never complain, never explain" policy. It kind of dignified the whole mess of deadling with the press from the BRF side of things and I'd like them to go back to it.

Part of this is because KP staff is really, really bad at dealing with the media, so it would be much better if they went on to posting cute pictures on Instagram than releasing stupid statements that clearly were not thought-out well enough. I don't mean only now, but the last two years have been brutal and Harry and Meghan's relationship has been in the middle of it.

Having said that, I feel for Meghan. I know a thing or two (or ten) about dysfunctional family members and I know that they always come back in the worst possible moment. She's getting married in three, well, almost two days, and she has to deal with all of this instead of being excited and happy. Yes, it's on an unimaginable bigger platform than your usual wedding, but hearing things like that and dealing with this kind of situations hurts no matter how many people know about it, 10 or 10 million.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:58 AM
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Ah, it looks like it isn't a rehearsal. It would seem the entire family is meeting Doria.

The Queen just arrived as well.

https://twitter.com/MajestyMagazine/...12665288859648
The Queen is really polite. She would not wait until the actual ceremony to meet the mother of the bride. Too bad Prince Harry didn't learn the lesson from her grandmother and didn't bother to meet the father of the bride at least once before getting married to his daughter ! Or was Tom Sr. who refused to meet his prospective son-in-law ?
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:02 AM
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Piers and his pals are upset because all the deals the brokered with the siblings are now null and void since they where not invited.

The behavior of those two siblings has been reprehensible since they announced the relationship.

They where advised not to talk to the press. Perhaps if they had followed instructions they would have got an invite.


Had the siblings been invited they would have been given a new platform to further harass Meghan, they would want access to future events and continued to whine to the press while using their father in more schemes.
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:03 AM
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Glad they are all meeting. Glad we got surprise pictures. Wasn't expecting it. Tomorrow we will see Doria and Meghan head to the hotel. Same for Harry and William?

As for Harry and Meghan helping the family out....

Isn't this Pier's show?!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...w-nephews.html

The nerve of him! That is the REAL reason he mad.
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:04 AM
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I agree.

We've know for the best part of a year and a half that Meghan has only had close contact with her Mother and Father and maybe one or two other relatives. We knew ages ago she was estranged from other members of her family and I remember thinking at least a year ago that the family thread should really be about those members of Meghan's family she is close to rather than the those that she isn't.

On that basis, KP needed only to have dealings with the members of Meghan's family whom she still has a relationship with. What estranged members of her family do is a matter entirely for them and frankly I'd rather we'd have ignored the issue s Kensington Palace appears to have done.

It is only in the last couple of weeks that issues concerning Tom Sr have come to light, his involvement with the paparazzi and his health issues etc etc - considering the uncertain status surrounding his intentions regarding the wedding, it is no wonder that KP have been very quiet - which leads me to the conclusion that all Piers Morgan wanted was for KP to tell him everything that's going on behind closed doors and because they haven't done so, he's having a go at them.

We had two statements from KP this last week - one stating the matter was deeply personal and to respect Tom Sr and one today from Meghan. These two statements are enough for me to know that all is being managed perfectly well behind Palace doors and we need know nothing more.
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:07 AM
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What ever happened to that supposedly "big scoop" with the Daily Mirror with Tom Jr. being in Windsor for the wedding? Has the Mirror come to their senses and backed away from this black sheeple? Are TPTB tending to Samantha in the hospital, who is obviously frazzled and dazed and confused even more with the events of recently being hunted down by paparazzi that she's blatantly courted for all they're worth, being paid to muzzle the woman and cut off all communications with the outside world? Is TMZ keeping vigil by Tom Sr.'s bedside as his sole support system and consoler throughout this ungodly mess?

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Old 05-17-2018, 10:08 AM
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In hindsight, Thomas Markle Sr. definitely needed more guidance from the Palace. But...Doria Ragland got exactly the same amount of help and SHE hasn't colluded with press..
Did Meghan need guidance too ? The two situations are not comparable, but take Daniel Westling for example. Not only did the King of Sweden take nine years or so to consent to his marriage to CP Victoria, but also Daniel received extensive "grooming" from the Swedish Royal Court, including tutoring in constitutional law, royal history, and etiquette and protocol. The latter specifically (i.e etiquette and protocol) was also part of Sofia Hellqvist's now famous "princess classes".

Comparisons aside, I don't think Kensington Palace and Clarence House have quite met the standards we would expect from the PoW's and Prince Harry's households in the run-up to this wedding. It is not surprising that the British press is now turning against the courtiers for alleged lack of professionalism and letting things get out of control.
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:10 AM
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Glad they are all meeting. Glad we got surprise pictures. Wasn't expecting it. Tomorrow we will see Doria and Meghan head to the hotel. Same for Harry and William?

As for Harry and Meghan helping the family out....

Isn't this Pier's show?!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er_dailymailUK

The nerve of him! That is the REAL reason he mad.


What photos? Please post them.
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:25 AM
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This is the latest on Sr's condition

Meghan Markle left 'in tears' over father's staged paparazzi photos | Daily Mail Online

Meghan is in tears but holding up. The BRF feels sorry for Meghan and rallies behind her; but the Firm holds Sr. responsible for his role in PapGate and the wedding no show. Sr talking to TMZ can't be helping.

I think Sr is going to get Fergie-ed, declared persona non grata by the queen and banned from future family related events. I think the Markle family coat of arms is a no go after this. Meghan will still get her C of A.
I make it a policy to take anything written by the Daily Mail with a box of salt.

The Queen still has a relationship with Sarah, it is Philip who doesn't. She visits in Scotland when Philip is not there and has still has tea with the Queen.

Sr was never getting a family coat of arms.
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:50 AM
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I think they will make it clear that Sr. is not a part of her public life.

As far as advising Sr. given the fact that he was not only in communication with Samantha but also taking her advice which was contrary to KP advice, I don't know what Meghan and Harry could of done to prevent what happened.

"Good Morning Britain ditches Meghan Markle's sister-in-law and nephews from ITV's royal wedding coverage"

So there is that. So glad the worm has finally turned on this non family!
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:00 AM
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I wish the press would quit referring to Tracy Dooley as Meghan's sister-in-law. She hasn't been remotely connected to Meghan in over 20 years and is actually the second ex-wife of her half brother, Tom Markle, Jr. They were supposedly divorced in 2001 when Meghan was still quite young.
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:31 AM
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Did anyone notice the sidebar in the latest DM article? It talks about Sr's surgery, and mentions:

Quote: he had already been diagnosed with a heart condition and was due to undergo planned surgery to fit a stent early next week – on his return from London.

I have thought this since the beginning of his heart troubles being reported, the man is obviously seriously obese and has to have a ton of medical conditions, possibly including diabetes and of course heart disease. I think he's known he needed work done on his heart for a while and has been putting it off. Now that it's a convenient excuse he's having it done and talking to the tabs about it.

I'd also like to mention that diabetes is a very strange illness, it messes with your emotions and can be very confusing. Mood swings and depression are common reactions from a body that is totally out of whack. But, there is no excuse for not taking better care of himself. He is the only one in control of what he puts into his body, and it seems to me that he's being very selfish and childish in his lifestyle decisions imo.
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:35 AM
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In hindsight, Thomas Markle Sr. definitely needed more guidance from the Palace. But...Doria Ragland got exactly the same amount of help and SHE hasn't colluded with press.

As for the siblings...how do you control crazy? I suspect that's why Meghan chose not to invite them to the wedding in the first place. She knows them very well, we don't, and neither does Piers Morgan. Imagine all the "inside scoops" they would have sold to the press. And it wouldn't have stopped there, they would have expected even more invitations - to christenings, to check out the new apartment at KP, etc. and the minute Meghan tried to shut them out we'd see exactly what we are seeing now.
We don’t know father offered same help. The mother met Harry Dad hasn’t.The mother has security Father hasn’t Father May have said security not needed. The Father has been offered tons of money to give interviews and refused.

Harry should have made a point to fly down and at least explain to the man what was about to happen. And maybe he would have accepted it. And as for contact with other daughter she is his child too but he reportedly blames his heartache on sons letter.
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:36 AM
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What ever happened to that supposedly "big scoop" with the Daily Mirror with Tom Jr. being in Windsor for the wedding? Has the Mirror come to their senses and backed away from this black sheeple? Are TPTB tending to Samantha in the hospital, who is obviously frazzled and dazed and confused even more with the events of recently being hunted down by paparazzi that she's blatantly courted for all they're worth, being paid to muzzle the woman and cut off all communications with the outside world? Is TMZ keeping vigil by Tom Sr.'s bedside as his sole support system and consoler throughout this ungodly mess?

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That last paragraph is ..........thanks for that in the morning, Osipi.
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:38 AM
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Did anyone notice the sidebar in the latest DM article? It talks about Sr's surgery, and mentions:

Quote: he had already been diagnosed with a heart condition and was due to undergo planned surgery to fit a stent early next week – on his return from London.

I have thought this since the beginning of his heart troubles being reported, the man is obviously seriously obese and has to have a ton of medical conditions, possibly including diabetes and of course heart disease. I think he's known he needed work done on his heart for a while and has been putting it off. Now that it's a convenient excuse he's having it done and talking to the tabs about it.

I'd also like to mention that diabetes is a very strange illness, it messes with your emotions and can be very confusing. Mood swings and depression are common reactions from a body that is totally out of whack. But, there is no excuse for not taking better care of himself. He is the only one in control of what he puts into his body, and it seems to me that he's being very selfish and childish in his lifestyle decisions imo.
I can agree with that. Honestly, heart conditions have multiple causes and triggers. I think if he already had a heart condition and couldn't put off the surgery much longer after he returns from England, it's likely that additional problems can be triggered by the recent events. In either case, I do think it's best for his health not to come to England. I would've said the same thing had the last four days not happened and the photogate never came out and he never spoke to TMZ. It's not something I think he should be take the chance on.
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Well, at least Meghan responded to her father's absence. I'm sure she's been keeping up with his condition on a regular basis.
She can now focus on the wedding and he can focus on his recovery. Wish them both well.

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Did anyone notice the sidebar in the latest DM article? It talks about Sr's surgery, and mentions:

Quote: he had already been diagnosed with a heart condition and was due to undergo planned surgery to fit a stent early next week – on his return from London.

I have thought this since the beginning of his heart troubles being reported, the man is obviously seriously obese and has to have a ton of medical conditions, possibly including diabetes and of course heart disease. I think he's known he needed work done on his heart for a while and has been putting it off. Now that it's a convenient excuse he's having it done and talking to the tabs about it.

I'd also like to mention that diabetes is a very strange illness, it messes with your emotions and can be very confusing. Mood swings and depression are common reactions from a body that is totally out of whack. But, there is no excuse for not taking better care of himself. He is the only one in control of what he puts into his body, and it seems to me that he's being very selfish and childish in his lifestyle decisions imo.
I used to work in a Tech Support call center and one of the Techs next to me once had a sort of diabetes-induced fainting spell/fit due to not enough insulin and I can testify to what you are talking about. Slurred speech and confused behavior-----I remember that.

One can always hope Doria sets Senior straight in regards to his health....no more Mickey D's and KFC every day, Thomas........and Meghan should get in on it. Maybe get in to Yoga finally after all these years.

Hi, BTW!!!!!
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