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Old 05-16-2018, 07:53 PM
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That's what I was thinking also MBruno. Mary is an interesting figure but she was a bit of a prudish snob which is ironic seeing that she herself came from a minor morganatic German line.
OT but...there is NO truth to the story that Queen Mary called Prince Philip's family "carpetbaggers and parvenus." In fact, she and Philip's grandmother Victoria Milford Haven were close friends and she was very pleased by her granddaughter's marriage to Philip.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:53 PM
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The Guardian is reporting that the Dooleys (her nephews - Tom Jr's sons & his exwife) are NOT going to be special correspondents on Good Morning Britain after all.

I wonder whether or not ITV (the network) changed its mind because of negative publicly or whether there had ever been an agreement of any kind and they were hoping to be hired.

Since ITV is refusing to comment whether or not they were ever offered a job, I think the network smartened up and realized that using these leeches would negatively affect their ratings.

They can pack their mountain of luggage and go home.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:54 PM
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All this seems like a scam.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:55 PM
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I think it's beyond clear now why Meghan had nothing to do with the Markles over the years. She went to Toronto and built a new family to support her.

I have a friend like this - most of his "family" are friends he made because his blood family was so dysfunctional. He's closer to me than his own sister. As he became more successful, the more dysfunctional elements of his family got worse and worse.

For Samantha, who by all reports, resented Doria and then Meghan when she was born and viewed them as taking her dad away from her, must have gone apoplectic when she found out Harry was dating her. So she tried to destroy it out of jealousy and envy. Then when it went the long haul and she realized she could make money, she pivoted to a book, then tabloid interviews, etc.. and then a brief silence when she thought she could score an invite and then back to outright scheming and manipulation once it was clear she wasn't getting an invite.

Now that the wedding is fast approaching, she's really doing the most. I believe she's partly behind Thomas deciding he should "clean up his image" by staging pap pics - she may not have set it up - but I do think she told her dad he could help his image. I don't know if she's behind the TMZ reports though.

I wish Thomas Sr was already in the UK and the heart attack story was just a cover, but I don't believe it to be so. I think he's just crashing and burning.

I'm very sad for Meghan and all of us that all of this mess is marring the week leading up to the wedding.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:57 PM
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The Guardian is reporting that the Dooleys (her nephews - Tom Jr's sons & his exwife) are NOT going to be special correspondents on Good Morning Britain after all.

I wonder whether or not ITV (the network) changed its mind because of negative publicly or whether there had ever been an agreement of any kind and they were hoping to be hired.

Since ITV is refusing to comment whether or not they were ever offered a job, I think the network smartened up and realized that using these leeches would negatively affect their ratings.

They can pack their mountain of luggage they and go home.
Chris Ship said they won't be there.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:59 PM
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I would have told Samantha-----"and where have YOU and Junior been regarding your father in the hospital? Whay have you not tried to contact him and find out where he is so you can go visit and support him? What are you doing the UK? Meghan and Harry and KP have made it abundantly clear you two are not invited to the wedding!!!!!!!!!!! Your first concern should be your dad!!!!!! Take care of him and support him!!!!!!! Let Meghan have her day!!!!!!"
This is such a good point. They're bashing Meghan for not being there when they aren't either. Tom Jr went over when he's not even invited rather than visit his dad.

These people are disgraceful. It's becoming so clear why Meghan cut them out of her life and even why she seems to hold her father at a bit of a distance. Very sad for her that this is playing out in such a public way.

They say weddings and funerals are two of the top 5 most stressful events one can go through - because it brings out family dysfunction at a heightened level.

I hate it that Meghan, Harry, Doria, their friends and (discreet) families and the BRF are having to deal with this.
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I think they were initially going to be on there but they were cancelled due to backlash. The Dooley's always intended on going to Windsor anyways and said as much. They will no doubt try to find other media to talk to and likely will be successful. It is just so ridiculous how they are all there. Now their father is also there.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:02 PM
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I don't know any sick people who call TMZ first thing out of an operation. Until I see something definitive. I think its all a scam.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:05 PM
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Oh! I so hope it is a scam and it blows up in Snr`s face...that will be the end of him in Meghan's life for sure!
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:08 PM
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They say weddings and funerals are two of the top 5 most stressful events one can go through - because it brings out family dysfunction at a heightened level.

I hate it that Meghan, Harry, Doria, their friends and (discreet) families and the BRF are having to deal with this.
Yea, it always makes me laugh when people say that you should use big events to sort out family problems and have a kombaya moment. NO! It's the worst idea. People are often stressed out during big events and tension has a way of boiling over when it could've normally been kept under control normally. That's why when Tom Jr said he hoped to have a Markle family reunion at the wedding, there is more reason to the hell no than that there is no way Meghan should be subjected to these people ever again.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:09 PM
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Oh! I so hope it is a scam and it blows up in Snr`s face...that will be the end of him in Meghan's life for sure!
I don't, I don't see why you want this to hurt Meghan more.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:11 PM
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This is such a good point. They're bashing Meghan for not being there when they aren't either. Tom Jr went over when he's not even invited rather than visit his dad.

These people are disgraceful. It's becoming so clear why Meghan cut them out of her life and even why she seems to hold her father at a bit of a distance. Very sad for her that this is playing out in such a public way.

They say weddings and funerals are two of the top 5 most stressful events one can go through - because it brings out family dysfunction at a heightened level.

I hate it that Meghan, Harry, Doria, their friends and (discreet) families and the BRF are having to deal with this.
I agree with this.

I wonder if Ashleigh (Samantha's eldest daughter, a lawyer, and the inspiration for Rachel Zane on Suits) and Christopher (Ashleigh's brother whom Meghan babysat for) have been quietly invited to the wedding. They have not said a peep to the press and are said to get along splendidly with them.

Noel, Samantha's other daughter, has publicly bashed her mother and wished Meghan well but apparently Meghan is not close to her and she has questionable ties (supposedly) to extremist groups, so she is not invited.

As to the Dooleys-----the most telling thing one can tell about Markle Jr. is that his two sons carry another man's last name. That is all you need to know, really.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:18 PM
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I hope the Dooley came to the UK just to come and not expecting a payday. We don't need another headlines....Came to the UK and now can't pay our way out ..Help us Auntie Meg!
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:20 PM
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I don't, I don't see why you want this to hurt Meghan more.
I understand it as that Tom Sr has done so much damage to Meghan that there is little left to respect him for or have any type of relationship with him in the future. I for one would be extremely weary of telling him anything for fear it goes to Sam or some tabloid. Sr. has shown he can not be trusted ever, he broke that trust with his daughter, not the other way around. Yes Meghan has I bet some misgivings and hurt feelings about what he did, not what she did....so it IMHO is best to put some distance between them for her sake now. After all she is marrying into the BRF, the one of the oldest royal families in the world and her first loyalty is to England, the BRF and her husband as Muhler pointed out earlier in a comment. She will be a duchess with all the responsibilities that go with that title and name. Now she must for her sake leave the garbage in the garbage can and move forward into a new life with Harry.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:26 PM
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I agree with this.

I wonder if Ashleigh (Samantha's eldest daughter, a lawyer, and the inspiration for Rachel Zane on Suits) and Christopher (Ashleigh's brother whom Meghan babysat for) have been quietly invited to the wedding. They have not said a peep to the press and are said to get along splendidly with them.

Noel, Samantha's other daughter, has publicly bashed her mother and wished Meghan well but apparently Meghan is not close to her and she has questionable ties (supposedly) to extremist groups, so she is not invited.

As to the Dooleys-----the most telling thing one can tell about Markle Jr. is that his two sons carry another man's last name. That is all you need to know, really.
The paternal side of poor Meghan's family is such a mess. I think Ashleigh and her husband are the only ones who sound like they managed to escape the madness - and they did that by cutting the rest of them off.

It might be nice to see them and maybe some of Doria's nephews at the wedding. Just so we can see some good members of Meghan's family from both sides.

What a freak show.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:26 PM
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I hope the Dooley came to the UK just to come and not expecting a payday. We don't need another headlines....Came to the UK and now can't pay our way out ..Help us Auntie Meg!
LOL.

Seriously----aside from the sons being cannabis farmers and having not seen Meghan in three years and the mother in 20, these are not necessarily bad people at all. They have not badmouthed her or ridiculed her. On the contrary, they have congratulated and praised her, despite not having any contact with her for some time.

In fact, The eldest Dooley has basically disowned his biological father because of his behavior and apologized to Meghan publicly.

The most you can accuse them of is trying to cash in on the celebrity and notoriety of this. And they also are NOT criminals------weed production is legal in Oregon where they live.

Would you not try to earn some money out of this if you had not acted in a deplorable way like Tweedledum Sam and Tweedledee Junior have?
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:28 PM
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I don't, I don't see why you want this to hurt Meghan more.
Hurt Meghan more? We seem to forget that Meghan has known these people all of her life! Unlike people who are crying "poor Meghan"....I am of the opinion that Meghan is not at all surprised by their behavior. I think that there is a lot more going on here that we don't know about and I hope it all becomes public!. If I am wrong then I will be the first to apologize!

Remember the rumours about Meghan wanting her mother to walk her down the aisle and she was going to gjve her own wedding speech? I won't be surprised if that was what Meghan wanted all along but the palace advisers was against it.

If it turns out that Snr lied about having heart problems and having to get surgery...then I don't have any sympathy for the media wrath that will come down on him!

Again, if I am proved wrong then I will apologize!
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:30 PM
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I think Christopher made it out alive and is doing well, too. Yep.

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The paternal side of poor Meghan's family is such a mess. I think Ashleigh and her husband are the only ones who sound like they managed to escape the madness - and they did that by cutting the rest of them off.

It might be nice to see them and maybe some of Doria's nephews at the wedding. Just so we can see some good members of Meghan's family from both sides.

What a freak show.

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Maybe the uncle who got her the job at the Buenos Aires Embassy?

The thing is, he sold out his brother's location to the paps.

That may not sit well with Meghan, don't you think? Or Senior himself.
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I hope the Dooley came to the UK just to come and not expecting a payday. We don't need another headlines....Came to the UK and now can't pay our way out ..Help us Auntie Meg!
Oh goodness.

Luckily they do quite well for themselves so no need to worry about that.
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Hurt Meghan more? We seem to forget that Meghan has known these people all of her life! Unlike people who are crying "poor Meghan"....I am of the opinion that Meghan is not at all surprised by their behavior. I think that there is a lot more going on here that we don't know about and I hope it all becomes public!. If I am wrong then I will be the first to apologize!

Remember the rumours about Meghan wanting her mother to walk her down the aisle and she was going to gjve her own wedding speech? I won't be surprised if that was what Meghan wanted all along but the palace advisers was against it.

If it turns out that Snr lied about having heart problems and having to get surgery...then I don't have any sympathy for the media wrath that will come down on him!

Again, if I am proved wrong then I will apologize!
This is only about her father.
I think it would hurt Meghan more to think her father lied about having heart problems than if he actually needed surgery. And to actually hope that he lied so Meghan would cut him out of her life, isn't nice, which is what was suggested.
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