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Old 05-15-2018, 07:23 AM
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I suspect He did it to try to shut Samantha up. She probably harangued him everyday
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:53 AM
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Its not a matter of class but rather family dynamics. People can and do behave badly no matter what their situations in life are.

To think a whole lot of this started simply because some of the distanced family felt snubbed at not being invited to a wedding. Its not even really the wedding itself and the people involved getting married but rather its the status and the high profile of this wedding that is the draw. Some people are just really attracted to coat tails for a free ride up a gilded ladder.

I seriously doubt that if Meghan had met someone different than Harry, say a lighting director on Suits, and fallen in love and was planning a wedding, most of Meghan's extended, dysfunctional family members wouldn't have given it the time of day or even sent a congratulatory note.

Egos are what makes some people their own worse enemies and I even seriously doubt that Piers Morgan's words shot at Ms. Grant had any kind of an impact at all. Her ego isn't allowing that.
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:05 AM
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Move a few things around in anybody's closet and you're for sure to hear some skeletons rattling about.

I'm not a fan of soap operas nor do I particularly care for tabloid reporting but with these recent developments, all kinds of sick and twisted things are creating headlines for the tabloids and they're cackling with glee all the way to the bank. This one totally takes the cake of what I've seen over the past several days. I normally would just pass this by but it all came out in the open this morning on Good Morning Britain with Piers Morgan.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...-thomas-markle
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:24 AM
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What a circus !
In a way i understand now when Harry talked about "the family she never had".
I'm afraid this is just the beggining . This so called "family" will cash on their brand new royal connections until the end of time ...
Not the serenity and dignity you could expect from a Royal Wedding. Good luck KP with that ...
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:40 AM
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I wonder if that's why C&C landed near KP today - the family might be closing ranks around Meghan in support.
More like damage control I suspect...

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What a circus !
In a way i understand now when Harry talked about "the family she never had".
I'm afraid this is just the beggining . This so called "family" will cash on their brand new royal connections until the end of time ...
Not the serenity and dignity you could expect from a Royal Wedding. Good luck KP with that ...

I agree. This is becoming painful to watch.
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:47 AM
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Posts comparing the Markle Family and the Royal Family have been deleted/edited as have those relating to the Middleton Family. This thread is about the Markle Family ONLY - stick with that topic please.
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:13 AM
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Its not a matter of class but rather family dynamics. People can and do behave badly no matter what their situations in life are.

To think a whole lot of this started simply because some of the distanced family felt snubbed at not being invited to a wedding. Its not even really the wedding itself and the people involved getting married but rather its the status and the high profile of this wedding that is the draw. Some people are just really attracted to coat tails for a free ride up a gilded ladder.

I seriously doubt that if Meghan had met someone different than Harry, say a lighting director on Suits, and fallen in love and was planning a wedding, most of Meghan's extended, dysfunctional family members wouldn't have given it the time of day or even sent a congratulatory note. She still hasn't learned that she's is portrayed a certain way because of her own actions and people see her for exactly who she is no matter how many lies she tries to spew.

Egos are what makes some people their own worse enemies and I even seriously doubt that Piers Morgan's words shot at Ms. Grant had any kind of an impact at all. Her ego isn't allowing that.
Agreed. I chuckled when she said one has the right to control how they are being portrayed. Actually, with there is a free press, there is a lot o limitation to that. Which is why people can try to curate a certain image, but it's always a double edged sword when you invite the media in.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:00 AM
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But if he ended up needing help with the paparazzi (and that's a big if), why didn't tptb realize ahead of time that he might need to be coached and groomed before the wedding?

Does anyone remember when the photos of him at the internet cafe came out, the beating I got for mentioning that they should have 'brought him in' for some polishing? Now what do you think about that idea? Why didn't BP treat him like a prince, bring him over for a couple weeks, show him the sites and let him get used to playing a role in this spectacle? That is, IF you believe that he just couldn't handle the paparazzi/pressure.

KP has egg on their faces, this whole media circus shows how little control and foresight they have imo.
I agree 500%
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:09 AM
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I suppose we do not know if the family was offered some counselling on the matter by the palace. It would be rather logical to do so, esp in Britain as the media circus is of an enormous intensity.

It is tricky to counsel people who simply do not care and who have no loyalty to their relative & are looking for personal gain. Remember the father of Crown Princess Mette-Marit who sadly became an absurdity & was exploited by the (German?) tabloid press. Or that awful aunt of Queen Letizia who enjoys embarrassing her niece. And there was the pole-dancing (2nd) cousin of then crown princess Maxima who was hired for certain parties here in The Netherlands. So the Markles are hardly unique in that aspect. The difference is that there seem to be so many problematic people in the paternal family. If anything it shows that Meghan was absolutely right in not inviting them.

IMHO the gutter press is playing an objectionable role in this whole circus. How does Piers Morgan have the audacity to present himself as a moral arbiter while his own newspaper *paid* Mr Markle? They could show some restraint and choose not to give these people all the attention that they do.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:13 AM
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This is becoming surreal. Can anyone here think of any other pre Royal wedding controversy/disaster that tops this??

Prince Albert of Monaco's baby mama/runaway bride drama?

Maxima Zorriegueta's dicey father?

Countess Stephanie de Lannoy's mother dropping dead only a few weeks before the big day?

I think this must top them all! I am keeping my fingers crossed that it all works out but I would not trade places with Meghan Markle for all the tea in China.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:19 AM
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I cannot for the life of me agree that Tom Markle, Sr. should have been "taken in hand" and "groomed" or "molded" into anything at all. Frankly, KP or any organization in the UK has no jurisdiction to "control" anything about any of the Markle family. Sometimes I do think its unfortunate that the can't put the kibbosh on a lot of things concerning this family but I do know they don't have that kind of power.

Sure, they could have done something like provide him with a bodyguard that was paid for out of private pockets but other than that, Mr. Markle really doesn't have to answer to anybody about what he does or doesn't do or how he lives, eats and breathes.

The more I'm reading though of Mr. Markle's present condition (which hasn't actually been confirmed by any credible source), it sounds like the culprit that has brought him to this point was none other than his older daughter, Yvonne/Samantha. She is just so overly concerned about her father that instead of going to him and being supportive, she's raking in the cash being on Good Morning Britain and even switching her hair color (which I sincerely believe she thinks makes her look more like Meghan). Perhaps TPTB should have invited Yvonne/Samantha over to the UK and showed her the sites with one being the Tower of London and quietly locking her in until the wedding was over.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:20 AM
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Given how quick he was to go rogue and call TMZ of all places to announce that he'd just stay home, I have to wonder if Tom Sr. doesn't already have a track record of backing out of chances to meet Harry or to get training from KP.

Perhaps I've just met too many people in my life who are quick to "turtle" at any sign of a situation they might find uncomfortable, but that's what I suspect we're seeing in him at the moment. Which could explain the snippets of clues we've had about his kids' relationships with him. I'm getting the feeling that when he's at his best he's a loving dad--they all have good things to say about him that indicate kindness and support of certain kinds--but when he's down he's unreliable and quick to hole up and avoid.

At this point I have to wonder if Meghan's first wedding was the casual, destination, people-come-or-they-don't-no-big-deal affair to sidestep the possibility of not knowing whether or not she could depend on her dad at a more formal affair.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:22 AM
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This is becoming surreal. Can anyone here think of any other pre Royal wedding controversy/disaster that tops this??
I suppose Edward VIII's abdication for a wedding would take the prize in the UK. With perhaps the wedding of George IV and Caroline of Brunswick on an honorable second place: the groom was drunk & only had eyes for his mistress and not for his bride. And outside of the UK the winner might be the Emperor Nero, who ordered Sporus, a free man, to be castrated and then married to him. Things are not as dire this time around, fortunately.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:26 AM
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Its not a matter of class but rather family dynamics. People can and do behave badly no matter what their situations in life are.

To think a whole lot of this started simply because some of the distanced family felt snubbed at not being invited to a wedding. Its not even really the wedding itself and the people involved getting married but rather its the status and the high profile of this wedding that is the draw. Some people are just really attracted to coat tails for a free ride up a gilded ladder.

I seriously doubt that if Meghan had met someone different than Harry, say a lighting director on Suits, and fallen in love and was planning a wedding, most of Meghan's extended, dysfunctional family members wouldn't have given it the time of day or even sent a congratulatory note.

Egos are what makes some people their own worse enemies and I even seriously doubt that Piers Morgan's words shot at Ms. Grant had any kind of an impact at all. Her ego isn't allowing that.
But Osipi, Sam has been going after Meghan since long before there was a wedding on the books. I think she and Tom Jr are doing this for pure spite. I think they've been angry with her and Doria since their dad's marriage to Doria broke up and he had to give Doria child support. I think they long ago new that Meghan wanted nothing to do with them so they have a 'what do I have to lose' mentality. They're not well-off financially so her relationship with Harry is like hitting the lottery for them. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain by making Meghan look bad. Their goal was never to be at the wedding or to meet the royals imo.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:26 AM
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Thomas Sr. complains about media hounding but had no qualms dragging the Paps & video crew along to Doria’s home. I suppose invading Ms Ragland’s privacy in attempts to compromise and drag her down to his sordid level sits alright with him. What a duplicitous, conniving piece of work he is. This not-so-reclusive “shy” man is no innocent, and just sorry he got caught in his grasping games.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:27 AM
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I truly hope that Mr Markle isn't suffering any chest pains or heart attack, or isn't in any way in poor physical or mental health. I really hope he is exaggerating to gain sympathy.

Having said that, if he is exaggerating, how horrible is that for Meghan. No doubt she's extra worried about her father and his health. Her wedding is in 4 days, and her dad informed the world's press, that he's not attending her wedding because he possibly has a heart attack. How do you deal with that?
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:31 AM
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Now he colludes yet again with ANOTHER media outlet (TMZ) ...But of course he hates media attention
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:41 AM
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Through all this, I hate what all this media garbage is doing to Harry and William. They had enough of this nonsense with their late mother and have formed quite a semi-hatred for the press invading personal matters. This is just reinforcing their stand and will get their backs up even more. Damn shame.
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Through all this, I hate what all this media garbage is doing to Harry and William. They had enough of this nonsense with their late mother and have formed quite a semi-hatred for the press invading personal matters. This is just reinforcing their stand and will get their backs up even more. Damn shame.


The media has been an issue harassment wise, but really, the biggest problem has been family going to the media of their own volition imo.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:57 AM
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Now Germaine Greer has been at it again on a BBC TV morning programme, claiming that the Royal Family didn't want Meghan's father at the wedding and that Prince Philip may try and destroy Meghan.

Germaine Greer: Royals didn't want Meghan Markle's father at wedding | Daily Mail Online
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