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Old 05-14-2018, 08:42 PM
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Why do people want to destroy Meghan? What did she do to deserve this. Unbelievable.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:44 PM
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There's no way KP can force someone to come in for grooming and what not. Sr is an adult man, most likely he declined any offers of help, and decided to deal with it himself, and make some money along the way. Had he agreed to KP's help, he wouldn't have received this substantial payment.

I also think TMZ are paying him, too, right now.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:44 PM
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I think some in the media and parts of the public just do not like the change she represents.
Honestly she is not going to change much of anything. They have an heir with three other heirs.

Harry and Meghan are not a threat to their system.

They have made it so difficult for any royal bride absolutely impossible. .
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:44 PM
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But if he ended up needing help with the paparazzi (and that's a big if), why didn't tptb realize ahead of time that he might need to be coached and groomed before the wedding?

Does anyone remember when the photos of him at the internet cafe came out, the beating I got for mentioning that they should have 'brought him in' for some polishing? Now what do you think about that idea? Why didn't BP treat him like a prince, bring him over for a couple weeks, show him the sites and let him get used to playing a role in this spectacle? That is, IF you believe that he just couldn't handle the paparazzi/pressure.

KP has egg on their faces, this whole media circus shows how little control and foresight they have imo.
The whole concept of trying to treat someone like a prince as if they aren't good enough because they aren't perfectly polished in their everyday life [wrong]. Why does he need to change how he dress or how he handle himself in an everyday situation because his daughter is marrying someone who the public is interested in? Have you thought about the fact that maybe he doesn't want them to change his clothes or how he wears his hair. Or if he wants to live the life of a prince (whatever that means)? Some people wants a simple life. It's quite disturbing trying to change everything about someone just so people they don't know feel like it's more suitable.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:47 PM
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KP has egg on their faces,
UNBELIEVABLE ! So the disgusting behaviour of this most dysfunctional [foreign] family is the fault of 'the palace' ? In some mystical, magical way they could have prevented ALL these reprobates 'filling their boots' at Ms Markles expense ?

The BRF are not Medieval Absolute Monarchs, and even if they were the actions of foreigners would be beyond their powers.
The SOLE responsibility for this ghastly mess lies with the Markles, and the $ signs clouding whatever passes for their judgement..
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:50 PM
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The whole concept of trying to treat someone like a prince as if they aren't good enough because they aren't perfectly polished in their everyday life is pure BS. Why does he need to change how he dress or how he handle himself in an everyday situation because his daughter is marrying someone who the public is interested in? Have you thought about the fact that maybe he doesn't want them to change his clothes or how he wears his hair. Or if he wants to live the life of a prince (whatever that means)? Some people wants a simple life. It's quite disturbing trying to change everything about someone just so people they don't know feel like it's more suitable.
I'm talking about the concept that he needed help, which was what the poster I was responding to said, that he needed help:

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I agree, if he had communicated that he needed help, Meghan and Harry would have found a way to provide it. But he may have either been unable to admit it or was in denial. He is of the tough it out generation of men.

My response was that IF he ended up needing help why didn't KP realize that he might feel a lot of pressure, why would he have to ask? They're the pros, not him, they've been dealing with the press for years, not him. If he felt overwhelmed, why is it so hard to think that it might have been a good idea to bring him over and acclimate him? I don't get why that's such a hard concept to grasp? Seriously, I think people purposely misconstrue what I say sometimes, sure seems like it to me.
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I don't know what would be worse; if she caves and invites these lowlifes or the wedding is cancelled.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:53 PM
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Perhaps he declined KP's help. They were pressuring the press to back off, while Sr had struck a deal with paparazzi for $$. And most likely has a new deal with TMZ.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:55 PM
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I don't know what would be worse; if she caves and invites these lowlifes or the wedding is cancelled.
I can't see either of those things happening. But then again, I didn't see,this happening, so........

I just hate that this gives the people who already had their knives out for her, their pound of flesh. She was already in a no win situation.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:56 PM
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I'm talking about the concept that he needed help, which was what the poster I was responding to said, that he needed help:

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I agree, if he had communicated that he needed help, Meghan and Harry would have found a way to provide it. But he may have either been unable to admit it or was in denial. He is of the tough it out generation of men.

My response was that IF he ended up needing help why didn't KP realize that he might feel a lot of pressure, why would he have to ask? They're the pros, not him, they've been dealing with the press for years, not him. If he felt overwhelmed, why is it so hard to think that it might have been a good idea to bring him over and acclimate him? I don't get why that's such a hard concept to grasp? Seriously, I think people purposely misconstrue what I say sometimes, sure seems like it to me.
For example, what does grooming and show him sites and treating him like a prince have anything to do with media scrutiny? Is KP mind readers now that they are supposed to know Tom was overwhelmed if he doesn't tell them? You can't just descend on someone's life and take over. I'm sure they'd be willing to offer help if he tells them the problem like they've done for Meghan's mother. Private security was hired for her when the engagement is announced. However, the media didn't even know where he lived at that time and some people do have issues with being followed places by someone.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:57 PM
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I can't see either of those things happening. But then again, I didn't see,this happening, so........

I just hate that this gives the people who already had their knives out for her, their pound of flesh. She was already in a no win situation.
According to some royal reporters, this will get some public sympathy for Meghan.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:58 PM
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UNBELIEVABLE ! So the disgusting behaviour of this most dysfunctional [foreign] family is the fault of 'the palace' ? In some mystical, magical way they could have prevented ALL these reprobates 'filling their boots' at Ms Markles expense ?

The BRF are not Medieval Absolute Monarchs, and even if they were the actions of foreigners would be beyond their powers.
The SOLE responsibility for this ghastly mess lies with the Markles, and the $ signs clouding whatever passes for their judgement..
Agree wyevale, it’s all about money for Markles
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:59 PM
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I don't know what would be worse; if she caves and invites these lowlifes or the wedding is cancelled.
I don't see either happening nor should it. Meghan is sympathetic in this. She has gotten a beaten by some media and public for "alienating" her family. There were many discussions on her "icing out" the family despite the knowledge she hasn't talked to most in a decade. Yet they still judged her. Now in recent weeks their behavior has proven why. And suddenly some of those who judged her are feeling bad. GMAB. That said, the wedding will happen and those family members will still not be welcomed into her world.

I feel horrible for Meghan. It seems she is getting blindsided by her father. It would seem KP learning his status through TMZ. He has decided to make them his mouthpiece. It is wild but honestly soon she doesn't have to deal with these people ever again, if that is her choice.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:59 PM
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According to some royal reporters, this will get some public sympathy for Meghan.
Rebecca English's article was certainly very sympathetic to her and Tom Sr., and they aren't usually the understanding type. I imagine most media will be rather restrained in mentioning this on the wedding day as well.
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:03 PM
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According to some royal reporters, this will get some public sympathy for Meghan.
Perhaps in the US. But we shall see......I'm not holding my breath. No matter, Meghan is a strong woman with a strong and loving mother by her side. And she is marrying a man who adores her. It is awful she has to go through this but she does have a personal support system, it just don't happen to include her family.
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:03 PM
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most media will be rather restrained in mentioning this on the wedding day as well.
No matter- it will be the most MASSIVE 'Elephant in the Room'
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:03 PM
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For example, what does grooming and show him sites and treating him like a prince have anything to do with media scrutiny? Is KP mind readers now that they are supposed to know Tom was overwhelmed if he doesn't tell them? You can't just descend on someone's life and take over. I'm sure they'd be willing to offer help if he tells them the problem like they've done for Meghan's mother. Private security was hired for her when the engagement is announced. However, the media didn't even know where he lived at that time and some people do have issues with being followed places by someone.

It occurred to me weeks ago that he might need some coaching before the wedding, why didn't it occur to the professionals? If his intentions were good and he was just overwhelmed, I wouldn't think it would take much to persuade him to be their guest in the week leading up to the wedding.
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:04 PM
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Sam's explanation for her part in this mess is comedy. The photos were meant to make Meghan, Harry and the BRF look good? The photos are meant to make them look bad. Meghan and the Royal Family are not providing him with funds to get ready for.the wedding. This is payback for not inviting Sam, Jr and the rest of the thirsty Markles to the wedding l think. Embarrass them daily and force them to invite them. The scheme was exposed; the jig was up. Sam went to the camera to admit her part before another outlet exposes her

This mess is not going away and it's going to hurt the Markles. CNN just ran the story a few minutes ago and Sam was named the Mastermind.
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Thomas Sr admitted he hasn't talked to her at all. So she learned all this via TMZ. I mean really think about that. I can't imagine her headspace right now. Unbelievable.
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I don’t see these people ever disappearing so KP better find out how to deal with them ...all of them
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