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Old 05-12-2018, 11:08 PM
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She wasn't there when he dropped them off but she arrived hours later. The photographers waited for her. The Sun posted it.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/626814...-prince-harry/

I don't think they dislike each other but I also can believe they are civil for their daughter and that Doria might dislike how he and his kids have acted. Meghan and Doria are extremely close. We all know that. I'll imagine also very protective and the Markles have been a nightmare.
Thanks. If you scroll down on that article, there is a video of a life sized cake in the likeness of M&H.
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Old 05-12-2018, 11:11 PM
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But that is The Royal Family and he is a private citizen living quietly in Mexico.

I doubt Tom Sr is used to having to run things by a PR person or office before doing things. And I don't think there is a BRF in-law handbook given to future in-laws
Perhaps they should start. I say that only half joking. There was no support for new members of the royal family before, but after the disaster of the 90s, that’s changed. Perhaps there should be some guidance offered to the in-laws who are mostly novice when it comes to such issues.

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I still think that he should have known better, however, some of the arguments here are making me feel a bit sorry for him. Only a bit, like 5% sorry for him. The other 95% of me wants Doria to give him the tongue lashing of his life for doing this.
Oh, and I’d say he deserves it. And I’m one of the ones thinking he didn’t do this with ill intention (see my really long post trying to be fair a few posts ago). However, I just think this is not the end of the world or the worst of what the BRF has seen from their own and those around them. That said, doesn’t mean Meghan or Doria can’t be angry with him for being stupid.
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Old 05-12-2018, 11:17 PM
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Osipi pointed out upthread the real differences between the photos Tom Sr posed for and the stalking photos. KP warning off stalkers is still valid even if Tom Sr cooperated with one set of photos.
I don't disagree but it is clear they issued that request due to these pictures. I am not saying the media shouldn't back off. They absolutely should leave them be but talk about a gut hit to learn you have been fooled by your own father.

It is interesting looking at the reaction to the royal photographers. They all got that "back off" notice and basically rolled their eyes because they all knew it was staged.
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Old 05-12-2018, 11:19 PM
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I actually kind of like the BRF in-law handbook or something like too.

I think the BRF should be more proactive in this social media, 24/7 news cycle in assisting in-laws if it is needed. But really, it has only been Kate's and Meghan's families that seem to attract the media. Sophie's don't, nor do Mike's, Autumn's or even Jack's. And do we know anything about Tim's family?
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Old 05-12-2018, 11:24 PM
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That is because Meghan and Kate are the wives of Diana's boys. Let's just keep it real. William is the future king and Harry is the popular "People's Prince" as they say. Due to that their significant others and children will be just as sort after. That isn't changing.
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Actually I think I look more like Isis. I find this so amusing right now as I'm actually reading a book (in between checking posts here) on influences of the Osiris/Isis/Horus story over the centuries.

Sorry for going off topic here.
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Old 05-12-2018, 11:48 PM
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I feel really bad for Meghan. She truly didn't need this one week before the wedding. From all accounts, she trusted her father, he probably fed her a few porkies about the paparazzi chasing him, and here he had worked with them. This makes the interview Samantha gave even more hilarious. He doesn't have the money to travel to the wedding, blah blah.

In the grand scheme of things, this isn't a huge thing, it's an error of judgment, posing for paparazzi pictures and getting paid. He didn't sell any info about Meghan, just sold access to himself. And in a way I do understand. The paparazzi WERE chasing him, got paid loads for pictures of him, he probably thought it would be an easy way to make a lot of money and he wasn't harming anyone.

But it must be another sting for Meghan. It sounds like KP were telling the tabloids to back off him, and they and Meghan were in the dark completely.
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Old 05-13-2018, 12:10 AM
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@Cocoasneeze - and that's the issue. It's not the lie it's the cover up. The narrative has always been despite other family members selling her out, Doria and Sr had Meghan's back. This bomb DM and the Sun dropped one week before the wedding undercuts that story. Sam and Jr don't need to wade in on this because it will make matters worse; but you know they will.
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Old 05-13-2018, 12:15 AM
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I feel really bad for Meghan. She truly didn't need this one week before the wedding. From all accounts, she trusted her father, he probably fed her a few porkies about the paparazzi chasing him, and here he had worked with them. This makes the interview Samantha gave even more hilarious. He doesn't have the money to travel to the wedding, blah blah.

In the grand scheme of things, this isn't a huge thing, it's an error of judgment, posing for paparazzi pictures and getting paid. He didn't sell any info about Meghan, just sold access to himself. And in a way I do understand. The paparazzi WERE chasing him, got paid loads for pictures of him, he probably thought it would be an easy way to make a lot of money and he wasn't harming anyone.

But it must be another sting for Meghan. It sounds like KP were telling the tabloids to back off him, and they and Meghan were in the dark completely.
I agree with you mostly, except the whole getting paid thing. We don't know if he was or he did it so that they would leave them alone, and DM was quite clear about that fact. Robert Jobson also touched on that in his analysis.
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Old 05-13-2018, 12:41 AM
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But by all accounts the posed photos were all taken the same day back in March so it is not as if he agreed to them and posed just before leaving for London.
And again, members of the Royal Family pose for photos for magazine articles--William, Kate and Eugenie all spring to mind. Where is the line?
Not all of the photos were taken in March. One set of photos (the ones of him working out) were taken on April 19th. I think posing for photos for a reputable magazine is different than calling up the paps and taking staged photos.

At the end of the day this isn't a big deal, but I imagine it's a disappointment for Meghan.
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What a joke, even a blind person could see that the photos at the tailor or on the computer were staged.

I don't blame the Senior, if the paps follow your every step why not make money out of it? The daughter sits protected in a palace with a holier-than-you attitude and won't compensate him for the intrusion.
Meghan's family are real people in real life with real life problems, no statement can change that. Harry chose Meghan and he gets the full package, just accept it and move on, and that includes that somebody who takes money from the paps walks the bride down the isle.

It's the BRF after all, get the popcorn ready!
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Old 05-13-2018, 02:18 AM
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What a joke, even a blind person could see that the photos at the tailor or on the computer were staged.

I don't blame the Senior, if the paps follow your every step why not make money out of it? The daughter sits protected in a palace with a holier-than-you attitude and won't compensate him for the intrusion.
Meghan's family are real people in real life with real life problems, no statement can change that. Harry chose Meghan and he gets the full package, just accept it and move on, and that includes that somebody who takes money from the paps walks the bride down the isle.

It's the BRF after all, get the popcorn ready!
How in the world did you get Meghan has a holier-than-thou attitude in all this? Of all the embarrassing shenanigan that the Markles have pulled so far, she's been the voiceless victim as she can't speak out against them. She didn't do anything, and yet it reflects badly on her in some quarters. I mean this is only the latest episode. While I'm still leaning towards her dad didn't mean any harm to her, but that's not the case for the other Markles that has spoken out. She's been bullied publicly by her half-siblings and other distant relatives that she hasn't seen in years to get a wedding invitation as if she owe it to them.
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Old 05-13-2018, 02:45 AM
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I don't get how this became Meghan's fault? How does she have a holier-than-you attitude. And how does anyone know if, when and how has Meghan helped her father out monetarily.

It has been stated, that Doria had security around her at times. I'm sure Sr was offered the same. I'm also 100% sure, that Meghan is doing everything in her power to protect anyone connected to her from any intrusion. Which imho is the reason the bridal party info hasn't been released yet.

IMHO there is only one party at fault for the paparazzi intrusion, and it's the tabloids and the photographers stalking people for them. Not Meghan, not Harry, not Doria or Sr. Trying to shift any blame on Meghan for this is unfair, and imho uncalled for.
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Old 05-13-2018, 02:46 AM
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Its not too late, I guess, according to Tom Jr. After penning a letter that made headlines urging Harry to call off the wedding, he's now done an about face with yet another "public" handwritten letter telling Meghan its not too late to invite him and the entire family to the wedding.

Anyone that buys this story should be advised that I also have a used, broken air conditioner unit that I'll sell for a good price.

Meghan Markle's estranged half-brother urges 'Suits' star for last-minute invite to royal wedding: 'It's not too late' | Fox News
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Old 05-13-2018, 03:05 AM
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So to Harry he's wrote a handwritten letter saying it's not too late to cancel the wedding, and to Meghan he penned a handwritten letter telling her it's not too late to invite him to the wedding. He has to thank his lucky stars, that Harry didn't listen to the advice in his first letter, or the world would be deprived of the literary genius of his second letter.

When Meghan said, that she loves handwritten letters, I don't think she had this in mind.
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Old 05-13-2018, 03:31 AM
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What Markle Snr has done is incredibly dumb but I can imagine he was getting hassled a lot. The obvious posed pics were taken so that they can leave him alone but that was never going to happen since there are actual pap pics.

For him to turn around and make the complaint to IPSOS with KP's backing whilst he agreed to cooperate with the paps was awful as it means he lied to his daughter and Harry. This looks bad on him but he has no one to blame but himself.

Meghan would have told her father not to speak to the press. I think she and KP thought the paps would go away but not the case.
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Old 05-13-2018, 03:56 AM
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However, there is no excusing the Markle clan for their vile behaviour, and now we can add the father to the list.
It is regrettable that Ms Markle's Mother seems to be the SOLE decent person amongst this sorry bunch of 'money-grubbing' Family..
And 'pointing fingers' at others to distract from this, and that sort of 'what-aboutery', won't wash, embarrassing one's own daughter for MONEY is really DISREPUTABLE..

I suspect it might be a trifle awkward for Mr Markle at Windsor Castle, a situation ENTIRELY of his own making..
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Old 05-13-2018, 03:57 AM
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As far as I know (and I admit I haven’t read the entire DM article) the article doesn’t say Meghans father made 100.000 from those photo’s. The article only says they may have been sold for as much as 100.000. It’s entirely possible he got nothing out of it and only did it to get those photographers off his back. It is the DM we are talking about here... They are known for bending the truth “a little”. So far he hasn’t really done anything wrong so let’s give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Exactly. It would be along the same lines as Meghan demanding that there is a very iron clad prenup signed and sealed before marriage just because Harry is descended from Henry VIII and we all know he went through marriages like people change their underwear.
Prince Harry is descended from Henry VII from both his parents. Henry VII descendants through daughter Princess Margaret Tudor- gave Mary Queen of Scots ,whose son James I succeeded Elizabeth I. Present day royals are descended from King James I of England. Henry VIII children that lived to adulthood died childless. His line ended. Henry VIII
father's and sister's line still continues through Elizabeth II.
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:25 AM
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Nothing new on Sr since the news broke. I still wonder if he is going to London. If he goes, how could he explain his actions to Meghan and Harry?
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