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Old 05-03-2018, 01:54 PM
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How exactly is Meghan risk for the monarchy? And how are these estranged half siblings EFFECTIVELY sabotaging anything? They have no influence, no say, in anything.
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:07 PM
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Ms Markle, as lovely as she is, simply is a risk for the monarchy. Apart from the new shot of celebrification she injects in the royal family: have we ever seen another royal bride whose family is effectively sabotaging the forthcoming union?
I would say if the War of the Wales and a tape of the heir to the throne saying he wants to be his mistress' tampon going public didn't take down the monarchy, then it's certainly safe from a couple of discredited estranged half-siblings. But hey, what do I know?
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:14 PM
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Her demeanor has changed SO much since her engagement, I don't know how anyone can say it hasn't. The confident woman strolling down the sidewalk to yoga has been replaced by a shy ingenue who coyly waves to the crowd from the safety of Harry's arm. They both have changed since they've been together, and not for the better imho.
How do you compare strolling to yoga class with walkabouts ? I should hope demeanor would not be the same or she would be an android. Harry at a memorial vs Harry on walkabout..should his demeanor change? Hope so....gosh darn gee whiz Harry's demeanor changes if his favorite team loses ball game.
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:16 PM
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Ms Markle, as lovely as she is, simply is a risk for the monarchy. Apart from the new shot of celebrification she injects in the royal family: have we ever seen another royal bride whose family is effectively sabotaging the forthcoming union?
Most likely as far as Harry and Meghan and the BRF are concerned, the estranged family members are about as noticeable to them as the sheep bleating consistently during their stays at the Castle of Mey with the Queen Mum. Its noise. They're not paying attention to it as its really not relevant to their lives at all.

The kicker is the that the more they're ignored, the louder they bleat and its become a three ring circus for tabloid readers while those being bleated at get on with their lives.
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:38 PM
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Ms Markle, as lovely as she is, simply is a risk for the monarchy. Apart from the new shot of celebrification she injects in the royal family: have we ever seen another royal bride whose family is effectively sabotaging the forthcoming union?
Risk for the monarchy!!! Thanks for the laugh! Who brought more celebrity into the monarchy than Princess Diana! She secretly cooperated with Andrew Morton to tell the story about her marriage!

Who had affairs that threatened the stature of the monarchy at one point - specifically the future king and his now wife.

Who got caught wearing a Nazi uniform in the past and doing drugs? Who got caught stark naked in Las Vegas? None other than the future groom.

Isn't the monarchy still standing? Let's not pretend that the House of Windsor stands upon a paragon of virtue and righteousness!

If the shoe had been on the other foot, Harry definitely wouldn't have been suitable!

And how are the estranged siblings sabotaging the union? Has the wedding been called off? Those people have no power or say in anything happening in Harry and Meghan 's lives. Not now or ever.
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:52 PM
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How exactly is Meghan risk for the monarchy? And how are these estranged half siblings EFFECTIVELY sabotaging anything? They have no influence, no say, in anything.
She really has'nt done anything wrong or controversial. If they can survive toe sucking, tampon gate, naked in vegas, and Philips nazi inlaws they can survive anything.

Two half siblings who lie is going to destroy the monarchy, then your monarchy has always been flimsy.
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:11 PM
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I see the meghanistas are in force but conveniently avoid the simple fact: is there any other example of a royal bride whose family is effectively sabotaging the forthcoming union?

It does not mean that their attempt has any chance, but still their attempt is there, openly advising the groom to avoid their very own family member (!) as the plague. Has there been ANY royal bride where the own family stepped forward, not in praising, in wishing them luck, in being proud of such a prestigious union but in discouraging?

Ms Markle is s a lovely lady but my personal feeling is that within a few years we will see a divorce. Of course I will be happy to be proven wrong, but nothing in me is convinced that this will be a long and lasting union "till death do them part". The pressure of the media on the couple, with America's Princess, will be immense. I wish them the best and I hope the trailer trash will disappear when Ms Markle has become The Princess Henry, but I am not sure that hope will become true.
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:17 PM
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Protest ALL you like, [and MANY of you are !] but the perceived family 'baggage' Ms Markle is now associated with [due entirely to the rantings of her relatives] WILL affect the way she is seen in her adopted country.

They are providing ammunition to a SMALL constituency already 'less than keen', for a number of reasons [Actress/Bi-racial/American] amongst a percentage of people in Britain.
These people hardly need extra fuel for their hatred, but that it is her OWN family providing it, is deeply regrettable and embarrassing.

The tabloids will ensure it becomes WIDELY known...
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:35 PM
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With a family like this, who needs enemies?!?

However, I read about the utterings by Meghan's family with some relief though. If this is the worst they can throw at her, she can't have that many scandals in her past. - I.e. no drug abuse, nude photos or other major indiscretions.
As for her flawed character, as her family seem to take delight in pointing out, well the truth of that remains to be seen...
But so far I think the British public can breathe a quiet sigh of relief.

Sure, her family will keep making a spectacle of themselves for years to come, and they will be annoying and embarrassing but hardly a serious threat IMO.
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:36 PM
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So what's your solution wyevale? That Harry abandon Meghan and call the wedding off because she has two repulsive and estranged half-siblings?

There have been, wonder of wonders, plenty of sympathetic commenters on the online Fail and other tabloids in the last couple of days, stating similar feelings towards Meghan's relatives as have been expressed here by a lot of us.

And let's not forget, that of these two mouthy estranged relatives, not all their comments by any means have been anti this marriage. Samantha has interwoven her diatribes with fawning tributes to her half sister over the last year and a half. Tom wanted to be uncle to any children Meghan might have a fortnight ago, and before the engagement he was publicly begging Harry to propose.
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:37 PM
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The tabloids will ensure it becomes WIDELY known...
And that statement reveals the culprit. For the estranged family, the very first time they were offered payment for a "statement", it was like finding a slot machine that never fails to pay out. If they were just making these deriding comments about Meghan because of a sincere belief that what they say is true, it would have stopped a long time ago.

The prime objectives right now of any of the Markle siblings is to use Meghan as their "cash cow" to better themselves financially. Wasn't it Andrew Morton (prime user of cash cows for a long time) that stated he didn't talk to Samantha Grant because her price was too high?

This in no way excuses Meghan's extended family members for their behavior in any way, shape or form but we have to realize too that this behavior is being encouraged by the media and those that feed on this kind of stuff.
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:45 PM
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I would say if the War of the Wales and a tape of the heir to the throne saying he wants to be his mistress' tampon going public didn't take down the monarchy, then it's certainly safe from a couple of discredited estranged half-siblings. But hey, what do I know?

Baaahaaaahaaaaa no freaking kidding. If the Monarchy can survive the Wales and Yorks I think it can survive Meghan's family being obnoxious. She has nothing to do with it.


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Old 05-03-2018, 03:53 PM
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You know what?

The potential exists that there ALWAYS be people in Meghan's adopted country who are going to view her with suspicion because she is American/Actress/Biracial, not Cressida/Chelsy, etc. That is not going to change one iota no matter what her siblings do. Those people exists for Catherine as well. I am not trying to compare the two but there will always people who find some legitimate and some not so legitimate reasons to dislike someone.

I was googling something about Meghan today and came across a website for someone who for lack of better word clearly hates her. Its not constructive criticism, you can feel the hate from your screen. Anything and everything (some of it disproved) that is negative about Meghan is on her site. I mean some of her statements are really out there.

So IMO it doesn't matter if and what her siblings say about her......some people will always dislike her. Its the same with Camilla, Diana, Catherine, etc. I used to say that any of those people could have discovered the cure for AIDS and someone will still dislike them because of a perceived slight. And I say this as someone who really disliked Camilla when she first came on the scene, and I find myself defending her to my mother!

Despite how their marriage ended (with an acquired Vitamix and a mailed back engagement/wedding ring) notice how Trevor has not said anything? His friends have alluded to something happening (Hollywood changed her) but he has never said anything negative. Neither has Cory, the boyfriend after Trevor.

Now if her siblings keep up (and honestly why would they stop as long as the checks clear) at some point, a rational person (who might not care for Meghan) is going to start looking at them. So far, its only the two of them ranting and raving of her deficiencies. And rational people are going to start questioning things because of their contradictions. I find it rather ironic that both Thomas and Samantha have issues with Meghan not speaking with them but neither of them speak to their Mother nor their children.
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:53 PM
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According Omid, Meghan really does not have any relationship with the half siblings. Meghan only lived with them until she was two, she was brought up as an only child and only saw them periodically. Given the shallow past relationship combined with their automatically blabbing to the press I'm not sure why the press is gleefully allowing them to bully and abuse her.

Perhaps the father and mother should make a combined statement about the lack of a relationship with the half sibs.

Either that or pay them off with an ironclad NDA.

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Now if her siblings keep up (and honestly why would they stop as long as the checks clear) at some point, a rational person (who might not care for Meghan) is going to start looking at them. So far, its only the two of them ranting and raving of her deficiencies. And rational people are going to start questioning things because of their contradictions. I find it rather ironic that both Thomas and Samantha have issues with Meghan not speaking with them but neither of them speak to their Mother nor their children.
Their duplicity is out in the open yet noone in the British press has put two and two together. Their lies, their changing statements, their lack of relationship with Meghan, their fractured relationships with their own children....noone in the British press has called them out. The Sibs are an easy way to take potshots at Meghan. The Sibs allow them to put forth a false narrative about Meghan even though their stories change with the wind.
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Old 05-03-2018, 04:06 PM
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Their duplicity is out in the open yet noone in the British press has put two and two together. Their lies, their changing statements, their lack of relationship with Meghan, their fractured relationships with their own children....noone in the British press has called them out. The Sibs are an easy way to take potshots at Meghan. The Sibs allow them to put forth a false narrative about Meghan even though their stories change with the wind.
There was a network who called out Thomas Dooley and his mother regarding their relationship or lack of one with Meghan.

Maybe called out is a bad term...they simply asked when was the last time they spoke with her. Thomas Dooley said 10 years and his mother said 20?!

And yet there they were...talking about Meghan as if they knew her who she was today.

But you are right...as long as Markle saga exists...and the British tabloids are getting clicks left and right...they won't say anything.
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Old 05-03-2018, 04:41 PM
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Surely it won't be long and Samantha and Tom will be busy spending the money they received from the interviews. I imagine they will go quiet for awhile until the money runs out.
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Old 05-03-2018, 04:57 PM
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As long as the tabloids think people will read the rantings of the half sibilings, they'll keep paying them and interviewing them. When the readers are no longer interested, they'll stop. I think the interest will continue until the wedding day (and these two will get more outrageous) and then after (hopefully) die down.
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They will continue way past that. It will die down until the next milestone and then they will be ranting all over again.
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Old 05-03-2018, 05:11 PM
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Let's remember that Meghan is marrying into a family whose matriarch is (ceremonial) head of state of the United Kingdom. Her soon to be father in law, brother in law, and nephew by marriage are future kings. For being that close to the Crown and a foreign national no doubt Meghan was vetted before the queen gave consent to the marriage. They know everything, childhood, Hollywood career, marriage and divorce. They most likely did a deep dive on the divorce to make sure Meghan was free and clear to remarry; for that impacts the succession if and when children come. If anything came back wrong the queen would have said no. For the press to treat these half sibs that they are in the know when it comes to Meghan (despite not seeing her for years and selling contradictory stories to the media) is ridiculous.
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Old 05-03-2018, 05:14 PM
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When I read about the Tom and Samantha craziness, I smell crazy jealousy from way back......long before Meghan met PH. She is beautiful, successful, and now very famous. Everyone here that says that they are doing it for the money has nailed it---receiving money from tabloids simply because of who they are related to must be a real buzz. But our new royal couple has been making a transition from extremely low-profile (little press) to the highest of profiles (a wedding broadcast internationally). From here on out, their lives will be one public event after another getting coverage by design for the best of reasons.

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