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05-02-2018, 10:54 PM
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I agree. I used to be one of those who "clicked" - it was kind of funny reading the Markle rants. But now its downright creepy and I don't want to read the stories. How horrible this must be for Meghan!
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Do we know whether the Markle sibling actually wrote this letter or could it have been dictated to him by the malicious and malevolent DailyFail?
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05-02-2018, 11:01 PM
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Do we know whether the Markle sibling actually wrote this letter or could it have been dictated to him by the malicious and malevolent DailyFail? 
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It came from InTouch. But nevertheless, no one held a gun to his head. He wrote it because he wanted to.
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05-02-2018, 11:34 PM
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Myself I am not sure why Prince Phillips family is so embarrassing?
His father was an adulterer (not uncommon in aristo/royal circles), his mother had mental health issues, his sister's husband ended up being a Nazi and they all died (including their children) in a plane crash, his uncle Dickie was ambitious on Phillips behalf...none of this is exactly shocking.
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I'd personally argue Philip, as a future prince consort, having Nazi family members only two years after the war ended was a much bigger scandal then Meghan's family drama. The Markle insanity is relatively insignificant for Meghan, whereas Philip had to do an entire rebrand to shed the image of being too German (which is one of the reasons George VI and the Queen Mum tried their hardest to convince Elizabeth to call off the engagement and marry a Brit).
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05-02-2018, 11:37 PM
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Philip's sisters and their German husbands weren't invited to the wedding.
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05-02-2018, 11:43 PM
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05-02-2018, 11:47 PM
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Philip's sisters and their German husbands weren't invited to the wedding.
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Whether they were invited or not didn't lessen the scandal.
Much in the same way the messy Markle family relationships aren't being ignored because Sam and Tom Jr. didn't receive invitations, Philip's sisters being no shows at the wedding didn't change the fact that the heir to the throne was marrying someone whose sisters were married to "the enemy". Hence the need for Philip to go on a PR campaign to prove he was British enough to marry the future Queen.
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05-02-2018, 11:51 PM
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Do we know whether the Markle sibling actually wrote this letter or could it have been dictated to him by the malicious and malevolent DailyFail?
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You bring up an interesting possibility.  At this point they are all being used, willing or clueless. Over time the backlash will get to them. No one cares, or if they do it's because most families have somebody who's crazy and can empathize with what's happening here for Meghan. It's a rabbit hole: I read the headline but no more and will likely soon stop doing that. It's all irrelevant.
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05-02-2018, 11:56 PM
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I'm just cackling at this all. One thing Samantha and Tom Jr really have in common is really inflated ego and delusional idea of their self importance. Both have tried to contact Prince Harry in order to dictate what he should do re: Meghan and wedding invitations. The Queen should interfere on their behalf, in their opinion. Both have used the 'look what Meghan did to our poor father' card, using their father to trash Meghan.
Tom Jr with his good character is judging Meghan, whom 'Hollywood changed'. Who cares about his own drunken domestic violence arrest, or him trying to blackmail money from Meghan, just look how vain Meghan is.
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05-02-2018, 11:56 PM
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Although we know Meghan is busy, and, very happily, planning her wedding..this must hurt her very much. I know Harry can’t be happy watching part of Meghan’s family attack her in the media.
I just watched a documentary where Tom Markle Jr. is speaking rather lovingly about Meghan and trashing Samantha for her bad behavior towards Meghan. Now he’s talking trashing about Meghan in a letter.
Tom Jr. should be ashamed of himself.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Dora or Mr. Markle privately cuss out Samantha and Tom Jr.
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05-03-2018, 12:50 AM
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What would be better is Tom Sr announcing he refuses to accept a family crest for the Markles because the disgusting behavior of his older children and other family members (public fueds, bullying tactics, attempted extortion of the Royal family) has tarnished the family name and turned the Markles into international laughingstocks.
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05-03-2018, 12:52 AM
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Guys, I feel that we're really missing the key issue with this letter.
Because when he said "this is the biggest mistake in Royal Wedding History", I actually LOL'd.
Tell it to Edward II, Henry VIII (not to mention all of his wives), and George IV. Not to mention the Duke of Cumberland and Strathearn whose marriage was so unfortunate that they passed a law to prevent similar mésalliances.
What a ridiculous man Tom Markle Jr. is.
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05-03-2018, 12:58 AM
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What would be better is Tom Sr announcing he refuses to accept a family crest for the Markles because the disgusting behavior of his older children and other family members (public fueds, bullying tactics, attempted extortion of the Royal family) has tarnished the family name and turned the Markles into international laughingstocks.
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THAT would be an extremely dumb and petty move that would actually drag Meghan into this mess.
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05-03-2018, 01:16 AM
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Family crests have to be applied for at the College of Arms in London by the person concerned. I don't think Tom Snr has applied, and I would bet a lot of money that Meghan will be granted a coat of arms of her own without family involvement.
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05-03-2018, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Curryong
Family crests have to be applied for at the College of Arms in London by the person concerned. I don't think Tom Snr has applied, and I would bet a lot of money that Meghan will be granted a coat of arms of her own without family involvement.
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It would be a absolute joke if the family got one.
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05-03-2018, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Madame Verseau
What would be better is Tom Sr announcing he refuses to accept a family crest for the Markles because the disgusting behavior of his older children and other family members (public fueds, bullying tactics, attempted extortion of the Royal family) has tarnished the family name and turned the Markles into international laughingstocks.
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Ignoring these people is the way to go. Giving them any kind of acknowledgement, even negative, would just feed their ego. That's what they want. The fact that they have zero chance to get any message across to Meghan drives them crazier than any negative comment would. Samantha made a joke out of herself, when she contacted a fake Prince Harry account on twitter trying to force a wedding invitation for herself. They're a 'family' but have no contact details for Meghan. And Tom Sr clearly has Meghan's phone number, but Samantha hasn't been able to manipulate it out of him.
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05-03-2018, 04:47 AM
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Its not unique to a certain class to have "black sheeples" in the family.
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Indeed not, but [in the past] these 'antics' and family drama's weren't subject to anywhere near the amount of publicity, and were only known and gossiped about amongst the '10,000' [as the small number of families that effectively ran Britain and our Empire were known].
Those outside this circle knew NOTHING of it..
It's very different know,obviously !
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05-03-2018, 05:14 AM
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I can get no real "feeling" for how Meghan will be as a wife. It appears to me that she's seen a lot of Diana's vids and imitates a lot of her expressions like looking sometimes like the "shy" Di. But that is not a bad thing to do, Meghan is an actress and Diana is one of the most successful Royals in history when it comes to the public opinion, so why not use this? I only hope she'll stay that loving and laughing girl/wife for Harry for a long time. As for becoming like Sarah Fergusen: Meghan knows too much about the world of media, she won't do such stupid things. If she is indiscreet, we can be sure that she'll do it in a way that does not taint her reputation. (I hope she is not). I believe Harry is more truthful to himself than Charles was before he married Diana and would give himself or Meghan an out if necessary. So I hope they will be happy for a long time.
As for that terrible family Meghan has: there is a sying in Germany that GOd gives friendships as an excuse for having settled you with a family. Meghan seems to have good friends...
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05-03-2018, 05:33 AM
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IMHO, as a fan of Meghan from before she began dating Harry, there are enough videos from interviews, events, etc to, again IMHO show, that her demeanour or behaviour hasn't changed from when she began to be seen with Harry, or during engagements. I HIGHLY doubt she has went on a Diana video viewing spree in order to imitate her habits. Imo Meghan has always been charismatic, charming, has been able to read the room. There are also reports from multiple people from.years back, that she was a bit shy but very nice and kind. Chrissy Teigen said this, they knew each other from Deal or No Deal days. Jmo.
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05-03-2018, 05:48 AM
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Being a relative does not in any shape equate to being part of a close family unit or having familial ties regardless of whether or not ppl share ‘SOME’ DNA. Meghan describes herself as an only child and she is after all, her mother’s only child. She also describes herself as an only child because she was raised as such or why else would she claim to be an only child? People directly related to Thomas Markle Sr making extreme fools of themselves and showing no self-respect, is no reflection on Meghan, her mum Doria or Meghan’s relatives via Doria. I think it’s disingenuous to try and lump them all in together as “low class” just because certain people from Thomas Sr’s side constantly display shameful, defective behaviours. Also two people in their 50’s who should know better, bullying a person in their 30’s is just disgusting. And lastly just because the dad on occasions did the lighting at Meghan’s school that still is no prove he definitely paid her school fees. In the same way some love to argue that the dad not appearing in her previous wedding photos is no proof he wasn’t there, even though there’s photographic evidence her mum Doria was there. Destination wedding or not. We just don’t know and merely speculate. For all we know Sr likely spent just as much money if not more and attention on his offspring from his first marriage when they lived with him. And he must have spent some years with his first wife & their children as he wasn’t divorced from there mum until 1972 or thereabouts? So we can assume he did spend time living with Sam/Yvonne & Jr when they were both little kids, too. What we do know however because Meghan stated so herself, is that her own parents separated when she was just two. Now I’m not suggesting Sr didn’t play a part in her life, he did and she says so. Plus there’s photos, I just haven’t seen any of her as an adult being with him.
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05-03-2018, 06:13 AM
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It is atrocious that Daily Mail published the letter reportedly written by Meghan's brother.
Why give such a man with nasty comments any platform at all?
The media is adding to the frenzy with poor standards. We don't know how genuine the letter was. If true, Meghan has an unfortunately vindictive family and I feel sorry for her.
However, without any media airtime, the horrible slander would certainly stop.
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