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Old 05-02-2018, 05:36 PM
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This is incredibly violent ...
So much anger, bitterness and i guess jealousy in those words.
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I’m concerned about cries of the ‘far right’ over any dissent regarding Meghan.

Agree with them or not but Fox is the largest cable news network in America, MailOnline is the largest newspaper website in the world.

But anyway it’s obvious dissent isn’t welcome so..
This behavior by Tom Jr is going to continue as long as people pay him, and there will always be someone who will pay him and print whatever lunacy he wants to spout because he's related to royalty now. So, I don't see him or Samantha going away anytime soon.
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I don't disagree but we also know Thomas was earning the bigger paycheck. They met when he was the lighting designer and she was an intern. That said clearly they both invested heavily in her education and were very hands on in her life growing up. That is their biggest issue with Meghan and make it no secret. Samantha flat out will tell you she moved in with her dad as a teenager. So he was not really much in her life until right before Meghan was part of the picture. Then it all shifted again.
That he earned ‘big bucks’ is subjective ...he could just have decided to educate her the same way his other children were and put her through ordinary schools because to him that may well have seemed the right thing to do. Yes, some people are like that. And who’s to say Doria’s dad an antiques dealer didn’t assist her with funding Meghan’s private schooling? We just don’t know and I’m not going to assume Sr did it all on his own. The step/half sibs are just that, half/step sibs. And Meghan doesn’t claim or acknowledge these people so only in their heads can they claim to be related to the royals, not even via Meghan’s marriage. I don’t want this lovely thread derailed so I’m off. Agendas
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There, there Rudolph, come snuggle up next to me on the racist trolls bench

This behavior by Tom Jr is going to continue as long as people pay him, and there will always be someone who will pay him and print whatever lunacy he wants to spout because he's related to royalty now. So, I don't see him or Samantha going away anytime soon.
I agree! They are not going away. If and when Meghan and Harry have children...we are going to hear how the children are being kept from knowing their Markle relatives...and how the half siblings should be part of the children's lives etc etc. They will keep spouting their nonsense as long as they are given the ,platform and paid money.
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Gaak - what a cad! Tom Jr. really knows how to smear someone with a broad brush and unspecific allegations.

The thing about a parent's love is that it is not a zero sum game. If Dad loves your sister, it does not mean he does not love you. If you are a generation removed from your sister and dad is now able to make different education choices for his younger children, you cannot blame the child for that choice.

These people may not have ever heard of taking the high road, IMO.
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The high road? I dont think that term is known to them. They are now so low..they are DIGGING!
But they are digging themselves so permanently out of Meghan's life, they may as well be dead, buried and forgotton.

The more they carry on, the more reasonable people empathize and agree with Meghan cutting them completely off from her life.
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That he earned ‘big bucks’ is subjective ...he could just have decided to educate her the same way his other children were and put her through ordinary schools because to him that may well have seemed the right thing to do. Yes, some people are like that. And who’s to say Doria’s dad an antiques dealer didn’t assist her with funding Meghan’s private schooling? We just don’t know and I’m not going to assume Sr did it all on his own. The step/half sibs are just that, half/step sibs. And Meghan doesn’t claim or acknowledge these people so only in their heads can they claim to be related to the royals, not even via Meghan’s marriage. I don’t want this lovely thread derailed so I’m off. Agendas
I didn't say he earned "big bucks" I said he earned a bigger paycheck and he likely did. That is not a slight. He was an lightening designer for daytime and prime time and won an Emmy. They met when Doria was interning on his show. He mad decent money. And he didn't raise his two oldest. They came back into his life when there are basically teenagers. They both have said that much. No need to be defensive about Doria. She clearly is a very big influence in her life and also paid many bills as well. But it isn't all that left field to think Tom likely picked up most of the bill especially when people from her school mention being more familiar with her dad than her mom. Meghan even talked about her school was in his neighborhood, IIRC.
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:12 PM
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When it comes to Harry and Meghan and people like the estranged siblings, there is absolutely *no* road whatsoever. Why else would Tom Jr. take this letter to a media outlet? He knows there is no way that he could get this letter to Harry or Meghan otherwise that they'd actually read it let alone react to it.

This is the "noise" that Meghan has referred to that she doesn't pay attention to. She's knows exactly what these people are like from experience and has chosen to block that "noise" out and get on with her life.
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There are some families that end up like this, angry, totally estranged, and unable to meet halfway to sort things out. Of course, these families don’t have to play out their tragedy on a world stage, but some small towns are quite rent by the enmity, taking sides, etc.

And often, there is nothing that can be done to heal the breach. This seems to be one of those cases. From now on, her ‘family’ will say what they want, and unless it’s actionable, Meghan will remain silent. How sad,that something that should bring great joy to a family, will not.
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:30 PM
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Beyond comprehension. (If this gal were marrying a regular “Joe” I doubt she’d here from them). The palette of true colors takes ugly to a level most can’t fathom.

Whatever one thinks of this union, words fail me to express my disgust in watching/reading one trying to willfully hurt another, Meghan’s silence is a powerful reminder of her strength of character in these verbal attacks. Beyond comprehension
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:50 PM
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Harry and Meghan have people who are rooting for them. No union is perfect, they will have their arguments like any couple, and it will be between them how they will be in their married life.

Sam does care what people say or write about her, otherwise she wouldn't get into Twitter fights with people that criticize her on social media, expose Morton's texts when he claimed he never contacted her, or rail to the media that the press have taken her words out of context.
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:53 PM
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There, there Rudolph, come snuggle up next to me on the racist trolls bench

This behavior by Tom Jr is going to continue as long as people pay him, and there will always be someone who will pay him and print whatever lunacy he wants to spout because he's related to royalty now. So, I don't see him or Samantha going away anytime soon.
I haven't commented on this only been reading it and something clicked today in my mind about this entire situation here:

This I firmly believe is what is now going on within the family and this is just MHO here only.......I look at it like the siblings namely Sam and Tom Jr know for a *fact* that there is NO wedding invite to them period, so now they can *cash in* on all the money the tabloids are willing to dish out to them for their hate and jealousy and lies about Meghan.....Meghan IMHO is now the *cash cow* for them to fill their bank accounts till when ever. And no way do I believe this is going to stop with wedding, they are by law now *related* to the BRF through Meghan for life.......they will continue to talk to the press as long as the press/media/tabloids pay them, if someone is willing to pay their price or any price now, what is going to make them stop tormenting Meghan for the rest of her life? Nothing......and so the saga will continue when children are born, when a first child goes to school, when there is a baptism or even a walk in the park .........this is now all about MONEY which the media is gladly paying them to star in their own sick soap opera. If there is a way to stop then I would hope someone would for this is going to be continuing in a sick tirade against Meghan and Harry.
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:56 PM
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I haven't commented on this only been reading it and something clicked today in my mind about this entire situation here:

This I firmly believe is what is now going on within the family and this is just MHO here only.......I look at it like the siblings namely Sam and Tom Jr know for a *fact* that there is NO wedding invite to them period, so now they can *cash in* on all the money the tabloids are willing to dish out to them for their hate and jealousy and lies about Meghan.....Meghan IMHO is now the *cash cow* for them to fill their bank accounts till when ever. And no way do I believe this is going to stop with wedding, they are by law now *related* to the BRF through Meghan for life.......they will continue to talk to the press as long as the press/media/tabloids pay them, if someone is willing to pay their price or any price now, what is going to make them stop tormenting Meghan for the rest of her life? Nothing......and so the saga will continue when children are born, when a first child goes to school, when there is a baptism or even a walk in the park .........this is now all about MONEY which the media is gladly paying them to star in their own sick soap opera. If there is a way to stop then I would hope someone would for this is going to be continuing in a sick tirade against Meghan and Harry.
We just have to believe karma is a bitch. They'll get theirs eventually. Once they are too busy dealing with their own problems, they won't have time to harass Meghan through the tabloids.
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:56 PM
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The high road? I dont think that term is known to them. They are now so low..they are DIGGING!
But they are digging themselves so permanently out of Meghan's life, they may as well be dead, buried and forgotton.

The more they carry on, the more reasonable people empathize and agree with Meghan cutting them completely off from her life.
Nobody could have said it better !!!! Bravo !
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I haven't commented on this only been reading it and something clicked today in my mind about this entire situation here:

This I firmly believe is what is now going on within the family and this is just MHO here only.......I look at it like the siblings namely Sam and Tom Jr know for a *fact* that there is NO wedding invite to them period, so now they can *cash in* on all the money the tabloids are willing to dish out to them for their hate and jealousy and lies about Meghan.....Meghan IMHO is now the *cash cow* for them to fill their bank accounts till when ever. And no way do I believe this is going to stop with wedding, they are by law now *related* to the BRF through Meghan for life.......they will continue to talk to the press as long as the press/media/tabloids pay them, if someone is willing to pay their price or any price now, what is going to make them stop tormenting Meghan for the rest of her life? Nothing......and so the saga will continue when children are born, when a first child goes to school, when there is a baptism or even a walk in the park .........this is now all about MONEY which the media is gladly paying them to star in their own sick soap opera. If there is a way to stop then I would hope someone would for this is going to be continuing in a sick tirade against Meghan and Harry.
You get it! Sometimes I wonder if it's just me lol. It's horrible what they're doing, absolutely gross. They are seriously disturbed people, obviously. But none of that is against the law and no amount of shame will stop them.

I really do hate to say it, but this is why royal brides have been so heavily vetted in the past. It's great that Harry found a lady who he loves and respects, but she comes with baggage, it's not just her that he's marrying, he's marrying her family. Sad as it is, imo it's true. So hopefully they both realize what is coming, because I don't think there's much way of stopping it unless the sibs go over the line.

It's really hard to stop an American citizen from talking to whomever they please about whatever they please. And I think Meghan's siblings know this and know right where that fine line between liable and free speech is and will tightrope walk that line from here until eternity. They probably have lawyers advising them on how to stay out of trouble, too. Again, all jmo.
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So what is the solution, in your view, Missy-? That Harry should have been told not to marry Meghan because she has two mad half siblings she hasn't had anything to do with for years? And actually it was only one half sibling who was going off on social media at the time of the engagement. Tom Jnr has only piped up negatively since he realised no wedding invitation was coming his way.

And I'd bet my bottom dollar that Meghan has been heavily vetted by TPTB before an engagement was announced, in terms of her marriage, career and general past. Or is it that a divorcee just isn't good enough to marry into a family that is replete with them? Or is it her nationality? Meghan herself has kept silent in the face of all this provocation. She has done absolutely nothing wrong.
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You get it! Sometimes I wonder if it's just me lol. It's horrible what they're doing, absolutely gross. They are seriously disturbed people, obviously. But none of that is against the law and no amount of shame will stop them.

I really do hate to say it, but this is why royal brides have been so heavily vetted in the past. It's great that Harry found a lady who he loves and respects, but she comes with baggage, it's not just her that he's marrying, he's marrying her family. Sad as it is, imo it's true. So hopefully they both realize what is coming, because I don't think there's much way of stopping it unless the sibs go over the line.

It's really hard to stop an American citizen from talking to whomever they please about whatever they please. And I think Meghan's siblings know this and know right where that fine line between liable and free speech is and will tightrope walk that line from here until eternity. They probably have lawyers advising them on how to stay out of trouble, too. Again, all jmo.
In recent years, the only thing that matter in terms of vetting is if you are a criminal. Having two bullies as estranged half siblings hardly chips the iceburg.
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In recent years, the only thing that matter in terms of vetting is if you are a criminal. Having two bullies as estranged half siblings hardly chips the iceburg.
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So what is the solution, in your view, Missy-? That Harry should have been told not to marry Meghan because she has two mad half siblings she hasn't had anything to do with for years? And actually it was only one half sibling who was going off on social media at the time of the engagement. Tom Jnr has only piped up negatively since he realised no wedding invitation was coming his way.

And I'd bet my bottom dollar that Meghan has been heavily vetted by TPTB before an engagement was announced, in terms of her marriage, career and general past. Or is it that a divorcee just isn't good enough to marry into a family that is replete with them? Or is it her nationality? Meghan herself has kept silent in the face of all this provocation. She has done absolutely nothing wrong.
My goodness, that was a whole lot of reading into what I actually wrote! Go back and read my post, nowhere did I make any judgement about Meghan's suitability. That wasn't the point. The point was that this is what happens when you marry into a crazy family (just like anyone), and I hope they're ready (and I'm sure they are) to ignore a whole pile of stupid tabloid stories. That's it, nothing judgemental about it.
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In recent years, the only thing that matter in terms of vetting is if you are a criminal. Having two bullies as estranged half siblings hardly chips the iceburg.
Ah, but I was talking about the past, thank goodness. The kind of vetting that went on back in the day hasn't been in practice for 50 years or more. Although I do remember they had to ehmm... examine Diana to make sure... well, never mind.
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