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Old 05-02-2018, 03:27 PM
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I agree with this. They don't need to do it, but a single, casual, brief appearance would knock the negative stuff right off the page. That said, I don't really think we're likely to see much if anything of Meghan before the wedding activities begin. But it would be nice for us if we did
I agree, i understand that they have to hide away to remain normal. But they have the tools to change the narrative. They have social media and could do another shorter interview.
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Thatís not exactly true as a few weeks back Samantha responded to someone who asked on twitter about her children and she said Ashleigh was lovely and speaks to her. We know Samantha has a serious issue with her youngest Noelle, but that doesnít appear to be the case with her eldest daughter.
The same Samantha who claimed to raise Meghan since she was a baby? Who she claimed she last talked to Meghan 10, no 5, no what is it now? 3 years ago. Noelle who said she doesn't have any kind of relationship with her siblings who lived with Samantha until she was like 15? I don't believe anything these folk say.
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Thatís not exactly true as a few weeks back Samantha responded to someone who asked on twitter about her children and she said Ashleigh was lovely and speaks to her. We know Samantha has a serious issue with her youngest Noelle, but that doesnít appear to be the case with her eldest daughter.
Honestly after everything that has gone on I loathe to consider Samantha a reliable narrator in this saga. However if Samantha and Ashleigh do talk she clearly has kept her mouth shut about the wedding (similar to her grandfather).

You just know that if Ashleigh said anything about the wedding, or even revealed she had an invitation, that Samantha would have told someone by now.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:35 PM
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I think both Meghanís parents put her through school so I donít know why itís taken as gospel truth that only one parent did. For all we know the whole funding could just as easily come via the other parent no one seems to mention in relation Meghanís education. Her mum is highly educated at university level. And well, as we can see Not everything uttered from the mouths of the half sibs can be taken as gospel truth
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Its occurred to me that all of these pre-wedding stories and rants and diatribes and just hilarious, delusional rantings of estranged (with the emphasis on strange) family members barking out their orders that they will not, cannot and definitely should not be ignored will most definitely have a positive effect on Harry and Meghan themselves. I guarantee it.

They will focus their involvement and their work on mental health issues even more. They've seem some prime examples of poor mental health to last them a lifetime just in their engagement period.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:44 PM
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I’m concerned about cries of the ‘far right’ over any dissent regarding Meghan.

Agree with them or not but Fox is the largest cable news network in America, MailOnline is the largest newspaper website in the world.

But anyway it’s obvious dissent isn’t welcome so..
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I personally pay no attention to FOX News for a lot of reasons. And I am not surprised they picked up this story as fast as they did whatsoever, again, for so many reason. But it is expected. It is news after all.
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How low, the brother will go? even if it is true all what he is saying , a person with class and education would never act like this! he wants attention to himself! How sad!
Lol I would not want to have anything to do with a family like this anyway!
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I think both Meghanís parents put her through school so I donít know why itís taken as gospel truth that only one parent did. For all we know the whole funding could just as easily come via the other parent no one seems to mention in relation Meghanís education. Her mum is highly educated at university level. And well, as we can see Not everything uttered from the mouths of the half sibs can be taken as gospel truth
I don't disagree but we also know Thomas was earning the bigger paycheck. They met when he was the lighting designer and she was an intern. That said clearly they both invested heavily in her education and were very hands on in her life growing up. That is their biggest issue with Meghan and make it no secret. Samantha flat out will tell you she moved in with her dad as a teenager. So he was not really much in her life until right before Meghan was part of the picture. Then it all shifted again.
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Has any explanation been given as to why both parents filed for bankruptcy?
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Has any explanation been given as to why both parents filed for bankruptcy?
No explanation given for the mother, but according to Morton, and I would take this with a huge heaping of salt, Tom Sr. had some bad investments.

Unfortunately, it's not that hard to get into bankruptcy sometimes. Home mortgages, health issues, etc can all lead to it. The only debt not covered by bankruptcy is student loans, and if it did cover it, I think we would see the rate of bankruptcy increase tenfold, especially in the U.S.
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Has any explanation been given as to why both parents filed for bankruptcy?
Is it really anybody's business of what their personal finances are or were or will be? I don't think that is something that should ever become public knowledge.
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Is it really anybody's business of what their personal finances are or were or will be? I don't think that is something that should ever become public knowledge.
I agree with you, it's no ones business, however, it is part of the narrative now. I don't like talking about people's finances, but bankruptcy is becoming so common, that I don't think people should use it to shame anyone. Because again, no one knows the circumstances.
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Old 05-02-2018, 04:36 PM
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Tom Jnr (and his sister) should know all about family estrangement. His two sons changed their surname after their mother divorced Tom and Sam has a long running feud with her daughter Noel. And if not receiving wedding invitations has 'torn' the family apart then that IMO says a lot about the family.

Maybe Tom and Samantha will shut up after the wedding? If so, what a blessing that will be.
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No explanation given for the mother, but according to Morton, and I would take this with a huge heaping of salt, Tom Sr. had some bad investments.

Unfortunately, it's not that hard to get into bankruptcy sometimes. Home mortgages, health issues, etc can all lead to it. The only debt not covered by bankruptcy is student loans, and if it did cover it, I think we would see the rate of bankruptcy increase tenfold, especially in the U.S.
Doria cared for her mother in her last years of her life. I wouldn't be surprised if that contributed to it. Also people file for bankruptcy for a lot of reasons though people hardly bring up Doria's. Shocked DM didn't do a deep dive. Or maybe they did and the conclusion wasn't interesting enough.
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Tom Jnr (and his sister) should know all about family estrangement. His two sons changed their surname after their mother divorced Tom and Sam has a long running feud with her daughter Noel. And if not receiving wedding invitations has 'torn' the family apart then that IMO says a lot about the family.

Maybe Tom and Samantha will shut up after the wedding? If so, what a blessing that will be.
Unfortunately, I don't think they will shut up at all. I think there will be a lull, but as soon as their is a whiff that Meghan may be pregnant, their big traps will open up again. However, this time, I think it would backfire immediately, as you put it, their own relationships with their children makes 'Mommy Dearest' looks like child's play.
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Disgusting behaviour. The fact that their own children and parents keep a safe distance from them tells you all you need to know about Tom Jr and Samantha's personalities.

Poor Meghan. I can only imagine what she had to put up with growing up as a young child with a bitter Samantha around.
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Old 05-02-2018, 04:55 PM
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Hear me out on this, but I actually think the Tom Jr. was ambivalent about Meghan growing up, and went his own way once he move away from the family. I don't think that there was a huge rift between him and Meghan, and distance just drove them apart. I think she was probably indifferent to him, until he blabbed when the relationship was known.

Samantha on the other hand is a whole kettle of worms. I don't think I need to psychoanalyse dear Sammy to see just what her issue is with Meghan. She has 'daddy issues' which is something she needs to take up with her father and not her baby sister.
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Given that the Couple are in pre-Wedding 'Purdah', ANYTHING written about them [especially if 'salacious'] is likely to be 'picked up' by mainstream media outlets..

Unscheduled 'surprise' appearances might be 'just the ticket', now .
Perhaps polo?
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Why on earth does anyone think H&M will give a damn what Fox, DM viewers/readers do or say?? ...Far right groups have been attacking their relationship since day dot. And they achieved NOTHING, NADA.....Borderline n*ts will carry on and on and on about the Royal couple on whichever lil bit of the t’ternet will have them and it STILL WONT make a difference or mean a thing. They threw everything they had at them including the pantomime half sibs AND THEY ACHIEVED NOTHING. JUST CONTEMPT. The rational majority couldn’t give a toss

I certainly am not labelling Fox or DM and their commentators as far right that’s for others to decide. But I emphasise that even far worse have gone after Harry & Meghan, like far right types and they haven’t succeeded, so if the gloves fit. And I wouldn’t dismiss the racist letter and substance sent to the Royal Couple recently as nothing to do with the poisonous racial rhetoric from certain media quarters that shocked even Prince Harry prompting him to comment on it with his STATEMENT in defence of his then girlfriend. So let’s not “muddy the waters” here.
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