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12-04-2017, 10:19 PM
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As for Meghan on Ferguson, why are people expecting her to have acted like Harry's fiancé even before she was his fiancé? She was an actress on a tv show before she met him. She is proud of her career, and where she came from. We can only judge her actions as Harry's fiancé from the moment she got the ring, not from years before.
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12-04-2017, 10:22 PM
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Like us, they are human. Private me at times is different than public me depending on the situation. One expects I think the royal family to be slightly reserved and dignified. However catching glimpses of their playful side is a delightful.
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12-04-2017, 10:23 PM
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As for Meghan on Ferguson, why are people expecting her to have acted like Harry's fiancé even before she was his fiancé?
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Because how else are we supposed to criticize her as Harry's fiance?  She's had an engagement announcement, engagement interview, and royal engagements all in 5 days and, by reasonable measures, hit it out of park.
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12-04-2017, 10:26 PM
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Well when I watched the engagement interview it seemed like I was watching a ‘celebrity’ interview. Meghan seemed ‘on’ it didn’t seem authentic.
Maybe that’s just her it’s a early days and she has a lot of this ahead of her. I hope it becomes more ‘real’.
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12-04-2017, 10:33 PM
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Everyone has their "game face". We put one on when we're going to the oral surgeon for a root canal. We put on one when we're attending funerals. We put one on when we need to. Everybody does it.
I seriously don't think we're ever going to see the "real" Meghan Markle as that person is going to be seen only in private by those that she loves and loves her. When we're at home and comfortable, we can burp and not feel the need to say "excuse me" or eat BBQ ribs sloppily and noisily and be as messy as we like. Its where we can experience bad moods and bad hair days and days where just nothing seems to please. Once we step out the door and into public, we adapt to where we are and who is around us and, as required, put on our "game face".
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12-04-2017, 10:41 PM
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Which topic was so bad, exactly? That other Hollywood actress don't talk about if it comes up? I feel like people are acting like she did this interview as Harry's fiance. Then yes, I'll give it to you, totally inappropriate. But Meg forgot to check her crystal ball before she left the house that day, I'm sure.
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It's the giggling, the overly-excited tone, the flirting, the agitated body language. You can be an actress and attend late-night shows without appearing as a sorority girl. Maybe I'm too harsh?
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12-04-2017, 10:45 PM
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It's the giggling, the overly-excited tone, the flirting, the agitated body language. You can be an actress and attend late-night shows without appearing as a sorority girl. Maybe I'm too harsh?
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Meghan is generally a bubbly person. Sometimes she's not giggling as much, but you can hear that excited tone in her voice pretty regularly. There was a little bit of it when she talked about Harry's proposing. Obviously, she's not laughing as much because there wasn't a comedian cracking jokes there, but you can hear that happy tone. Can't a girl just be a friendly and happy type?!?!
That last bit was a joke by the way. Don't want the question marks and exclamation marks to be taken the wrong way.
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12-04-2017, 11:04 PM
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Meghan ex best friend is out there selling videos of her, to me is no wonder why that friendship ended. This 'friend' has some issues, and can't stand to see Meghan happy.
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12-05-2017, 12:59 AM
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I have to say, that I feel terrible for Meghan. Because of her being engaged to Harry, the press have a free reign to everything in her life.
Her mother already has been harassed by tabloids, now her 78 year old retired father has been hunted down from his remote house, and the tabloids published his address too. His privacy has been invaded completely. Added to that, her ex friend is selling all of the material from their 31 years of friendship to tabloids for six figures. They will dig up everything they can, there's no limit at all. And if this isn't enough, other trashy publications have printed photoshopped nude pics of her. This has happened within 10 days or so of the engagement announcement. If she can handle this, and bot flounce, I'd say she's perfectly fit for the role. A giggling, flirty late night show interview is an added plus, Imo.
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12-05-2017, 02:48 AM
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During the last year I have watched several on-line videos of Meghan doing interviews including the one previously posted. That video is 4 years old and one cannot make a judgement on someone based upon a talk-show video.
For itself, it was entertaining, Meghan was funny and engaged well in the conversation.
Being British, it is of great interest to me who the person that Harry is about to marry is - but in reality one can only justifiably get an impression from what is happening now, and it is how Meghan presents herself in the "proper" public like last Friday that will leave an impression on my mind.
As for her father, I hope the press intrusion into his day-to-day life dies down - he leads a normal quiet life and he should be allowed to continue that. I have every respect for him for not speaking to the media and also for Meghan's mother too in that regard.
They say actions speak louder than words and in this case it's certainly very true!
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12-05-2017, 09:49 AM
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I must say, this "ex-friend" is an absolute piece of work. Selling the candid video of Meghan as a teenager is extremely low. I fear that there will be more of this from this person too. She knew Meghan for a long time and I am sure how a lot of pictures and video. I can't imagine how betrayed Meghan must feel. I hope this friend knows this only makes HER look bad.
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I absolutely agree on that!
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12-05-2017, 12:05 PM
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I absolutely agree on that! 
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I agree that the former friend showed a lack of taste in selling the pictures and film that she owned, but we can’t know what her circumstances are.
Getting -possibly- several thousands or hundreds of thousands may make a real difference in her family’s life. I’ve not watched the video, nor seen all the pictures, but they seem pretty harmless.
That money might make a real difference to her. I think a lot of people would have done what she did with a clear conscience. I’ve never been in a position to need money that badly, but I know many people who have. I can’t judge her.
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12-05-2017, 12:17 PM
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I agree that the former friend showed a lack of taste in selling the pictures and film that she owned, but we can’t know what her circumstances are.
Getting -possibly- several thousands or hundreds of thousands may make a real difference in her family’s life. I’ve not watched the video, nor seen all the pictures, but they seem pretty harmless.
That money might make a real difference to her. I think a lot of people would have done what she did with a clear conscience. I’ve never been in a position to need money that badly, but I know many people who have. I can’t judge her.
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She didn't only sell pictures, she trashed Meghan pretty much. Her other family member sold pictures too, but didn't find the need to trash Meghan as a person.
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12-05-2017, 12:23 PM
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Her selling out her former friend says more about than Meghan. I mean, when even the readers of the Daily Fail think you are not so nice person by selling out your friend...that's saying something.
As soon as I saw the headlines and pictures, I thought of Judas and the 30 coins. I hope it was worth it. Oh well, that's one person from the maybe list that has been moved over to the definite no column.
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12-05-2017, 12:33 PM
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I think what people mean is because Meghan’s an actress it’s difficult to tell who the real person is.
How can we tell the ‘real’ Meghan from the Meghan that’s just ‘on’ , playing for the cameras.
My mother is a big royalist and that’s her problem. When is she acting and when do we see the ‘real’ Meghan
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When someone acts the same in every single situation, never showing any variance between being serious or light, that's when you know you're not getting the real "them," at least in terms of their natural affect. Nobody is sober and deep all the time; no one is goofy and playful all the time; most of us have elements of both.
I would think much less of Meghan if she hadn't been relaxed and a little silly on the Craig Ferguson show. It would have meant she didn't know how to read a room, so to speak, and adjust to the situation.
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12-05-2017, 12:58 PM
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I think this interview is a much better representation of who Meghan is
https://meghanmarklesmafia.tumblr.co...-its-been-said
It was when she was active with The Tig, it explains her cold outreach method and explains why she would call people out of the blue for interviews or content for her blog. She is a master networker and real go getter who is not afraid of rejection. I learned alot from this interview. Brits call her a social climber but in the US we call it networking and it is vital if you want to get a job.
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12-05-2017, 01:20 PM
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I think this interview is a much better representation of who Meghan is
https://meghanmarklesmafia.tumblr.co...-its-been-said
It was when she was active with The Tig, it explains her cold outreach method and explains why she would call people out of the blue for interviews or content for her blog. She is a master networker and real go getter who is not afraid of rejection. I learned alot from this interview. Brits call her a social climber but in the US we call it networking and it is vital if you want to get a job.
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I find this fascinating. The British seem to have an almost disdain for people "rising above their station", where in America, you'd be judged for not wanting to better yourself. Of course your going to go to the best school you can. Of course your going to try and meet the right people. That's how you advance your career and make a living. It's almost an expectation. If you weren't doing those things, people would think you weren't serious. I'm not saying that we don't have our own class issues here in the US, cause boy do we ever. But the British seem to hold a little tighter to some of these class distinctions. I think some people are always going to have an issue with Meghan because she just does not fit their idea of who a member of the British Royal Family should be, and that includes her family and background. And since she can't change that (nor would she want to) that's just how it will be.
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12-05-2017, 01:39 PM
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I agree that the former friend showed a lack of taste in selling the pictures and film that she owned, but we can’t know what her circumstances are.
Getting -possibly- several thousands or hundreds of thousands may make a real difference in her family’s life. I’ve not watched the video, nor seen all the pictures, but they seem pretty harmless.
That money might make a real difference to her. I think a lot of people would have done what she did with a clear conscience. I’ve never been in a position to need money that badly, but I know many people who have. I can’t judge her.
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That is absolutely true, I was thinking the same thing myself, but, if that's the case, a "friend" would have had only nice things to say about Miss Markle no matter if their friendship's status is today. In this case, it seems that not only pictures were sold but unflattering stories as well.
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12-05-2017, 01:48 PM
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I think this interview is a much better representation of who Meghan is
https://meghanmarklesmafia.tumblr.co...-its-been-said
It was when she was active with The Tig, it explains her cold outreach method and explains why she would call people out of the blue for interviews or content for her blog. She is a master networker and real go getter who is not afraid of rejection. I learned alot from this interview. Brits call her a social climber but in the US we call it networking and it is vital if you want to get a job.
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I find this fascinating. The British seem to have an almost disdain for people "rising above their station", where in America, you'd be judged for not wanting to better yourself. Of course your going to go to the best school you can. Of course your going to try and meet the right people. That's how you advance your career and make a living. It's almost an expectation. If you weren't doing those things, people would think you weren't serious. I'm not saying that we don't have our own class issues here in the US, cause boy do we ever. But the British seem to hold a little tighter to some of these class distinctions. I think some people are always going to have an issue with Meghan because she just does not fit their idea of who a member of the British Royal Family should be, and that includes her family and background. And since she can't change that (nor would she want to) that's just how it will be.
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Well said, AlowVera and Alliec76.
I think that is the root and stem of the truly awful vitriol directed at the Middletons all these years by a small sector of the public. Carole Middleton in particular gets the worst of it, characterized as being the 'uppity' lower class mother daring to raise her family/children above their 'station'/class in life. In fact, I think it explains (in part) Catherine's stilted manner. The pressure on Catherine not to 'put a foot wrong' one can only guess at.
So saying, I think Meghan will be a wonderful ally for Catherine. A bit off topic but relevant in that I hope this aspect of the class system does not impact Meghan's relaxed confidence.
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12-05-2017, 02:03 PM
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The tabloids tried fit a round peg in a square hole. The narrative with Catherine was William saved her from a life of scrubbing dishes and mending socks.
The Middletons were already multimillionaires with trust funds. Catherine went to the very best schools in Britain.
So ‘Kate the commoner’ never really fit although that’s the narrative the tabloids were hoping for
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