Meghan Markle: Citizenship and Religious Conversion

[Biri]

Originally Posted by ladongas

And just on the off chance he wished to run for President!

AFAIK, he will not be allowed to do it; a candidate has to be born in the US.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Biri

AFAIK, he will not be allowed to do it; a candidate has to be born in the US.

No, he does not. Neither John McCain nor Ted Cruz were born in the US and they both ran for president.

What the US constitution says is that the president must be a natural born citizen of the United States, which the Supreme Court interpreted as being a citizen at birth ( as opposed to a naturalized citizen). Archie would qualify then .

[Claricecolin]

Originally Posted by Biri

AFAIK, he will not be allowed to do it; a candidate has to be born in the US.

That is not the case. Archie is the son of an American. Therefore be could run for president once he reaches age and if he doesn't renounce his USA citizenship. Ted Cruz, born in Canada, and John McCain, born in Panama, were able to run for president as they were born to an American citizen.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Biri

AFAIK, he will not be allowed to do it; a candidate has to be born in the US.

Not exactly, Ted Cruz was born in Canada. He holds natural born US Citizenship as his mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth.

"Citizenship
Main article: Ted Cruz presidential campaign, 2016 § Eligibility
Further information: Natural-born-citizen clause
Cruz has stated that when he was a child, his mother told him that she would have to make an affirmative act to claim Canadian citizenship for him, so his family assumed that he did not hold Canadian citizenship.[210] In August 2013, after the Dallas Morning News pointed out that Cruz had dual Canadian-American citizenship,[211][212] he applied to formally renounce his Canadian citizenship and ceased being a citizen of Canada on May 14, 2014.[210][213]

Several lawsuits and ballot challenges asserting that Cruz is ineligible to become U.S. president have been filed.[214][215][216][217][218][219][220] No lawsuit or challenge has been successful, and in February 2016, the Illinois Board of Elections ruled in Cruz's favor, stating, "The candidate is a natural born citizen by virtue of being born in Canada to his mother who was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth."[221]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

So, yes, if Archie claimed his US citizenship and renounced his UK citizenship, he could potentially be elected President of the United States.

[lucien]

WHOOOAAA!!

[Pranter]

Senator McCain was born on an American military base overseas..that is considered American soil.



LaRae

[Fijiro]

Originally Posted by Pranter

Senator McCain was born on an American military base overseas..that is considered American soil.



LaRae

That is so true. And that goes also for people who are on foreign mission on behalf of the US Government eg. Diplomats, Embassy personnel, etc.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Biri

AFAIK, he will not be allowed to do it; a candidate has to be born in the US.

He only has to be born a US citizen. Not necessarily in US.

[MsJulie]

I feel for Master Archie. Not even a month old and the world is planning his life.....no total title, that’s okay we will make him The US President! Archie’s just out on ear plugs and ignore all of us....we do love you!

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by MsJulie

I feel for Master Archie. Not even a month old and the world is planning his life.....no total title, that’s okay we will make him The US President! Archie’s just out on ear plugs and ignore all of us....we do love you!

Usually its the parents that have the high expectations of what their child will grow up to be as in following in daddy's or mommy's footsteps and become a doctor, lawyer or President.

I sincerely believe that both Harry and Meghan are going to raise their child(ren) to explore and follow their own paths and inclinations and be supportive of them no matter what they choose to do in life. They'll raise Archie to know he has his options and encourage him to follow his dreams.

Harry was born with the expectations from birth that some day he'll be the child of the King and be expected to join the family "Firm". Harry did find his niche that made his royal lifestyle palatable to him but perhaps both Meghan and Harry don't want their child growing up with expectations hanging over his head like an iron anvil poised to drop on his head.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by MsJulie

I feel for Master Archie. Not even a month old and the world is planning his life.....no total title, that’s okay we will make him The US President! Archie’s just out on ear plugs and ignore all of us....we do love you!

Nobody is planning his life. And the odds of Archie claiming his US citizenshio to move to the US and run for President are astronomically slim. But the fact remains, it is possible even if not probable.

[wbenson]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

At present he is theoretically an American citizen with all of the obligations attached under American law, whether or not he wants it. He will need to "claim" the citizenship in order to officially renounce it.

He will also need to "claim" it, or more likely his parents will have to, if he is to ever visit the home country of his grandmother before he is a teenager. As a citizen of the United States, he cannot use a British passport when entering the USA.

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

So, yes, if Archie claimed his US citizenship and renounced his UK citizenship, he could potentially be elected President of the United States.

Even renunciation of foreign citizenship isn't strictly necessary. Ted Cruz did it for political reasons, not as a legal requirement.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by wbenson

He will also need to "claim" it, or more likely his parents will have to, if he is to ever visit the home country of his grandmother before he is a teenager. As a citizen of the United States, he cannot use a British passport when entering the USA.



Even renunciation of foreign citizenship isn't strictly necessary. Ted Cruz did it for political reasons, not as a legal requirement.

I don’t think the President of the United States could be a citizen of the UK as well as the US, so yes, renunciation would be necessary.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

I don’t think the President of the United States could be a citizen of the UK as well as the US, so yes, renunciation would be necessary.

I think wbenson’s point is it’s not necessary by law. Just like being a US citizen, but growing up in UK will likely mean Archie would never be elected even if he spends 14 years in US.

[Rudolph]

Wow, Archie is only a couple of months old and already he's running to be president of America

[Bassoonist]

I'll vote for him LOL but I'll likely be dead by then.

In response to an earlier post, I predict that Harry and Meghan will adopt children in the future. She is getting a little older now and may have one or two more (Archie's gestation seemed to go very well, bless his heart). They seem to care deeply for the children of Africa and I can see them adopting a few orphans from there.

[Osipi]

The way I see it, Harry (and now Meghan) already have taken the children of Sentebale into their hearts and it will be that vehicle that they use to care and nurture them and provide what they need.

I don't see them actually adopting an African child in the accepted way adoptions work as I believe the both of them would rather children grow up and thrive in their own natural environments rather than to be the "odd guy out" and be in the limelight of the world (both positively and negatively) as part of the British royal family.

Then again, this is just my opinion as to how I see it. I could be wrong y'know.

[Hallo girl]

Originally Posted by Osipi

The way I see it, Harry (and now Meghan) already have taken the children of Sentebale into their hearts and it will be that vehicle that they use to care and nurture them and provide what they need.

I don't see them actually adopting an African child in the accepted way adoptions work as I believe the both of them would rather children grow up and thrive in their own natural environments rather than to be the "odd guy out" and be in the limelight of the world (both positively and negatively) as part of the British royal family.

Then again, this is just my opinion as to how I see it. I could be wrong y'know.

I would agree with these thoughts. It is hard enough for spouses to move in to the royal spotlight never mind a child.

[MissPeach77]

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

She's not giving up her American citizenship--she plans to have dual citizenship.

As an American I have heard that she will give up her American Citizenship because...

"As a US citizen, regardless of where she lives, Meghan will be obliged to file a US tax return and to report any foreign accounts, assets over $200,000 and gifts valued more than $15,797 "regardless of whether it is actually in your possession," according to the IRS."

This is said to be a problem for the Royal Family as it would open up their financial matters to the US IRS (our tax organization). I don't know if this is true, but it is definitely something to consider.

[Somebody]

Currently, her only citizenship is American. So, there is nothing to give up yet. Once she has British citizenship she may decide to either give it up or keep it. By that time the IRS will have had insight in her finances as a member of the royal family.

You might want to read this whole thread as this topic has been discussed quite extensively, so I am sure it will be of interest to you.

Originally Posted by Bassoonist

I'll vote for him LOL but I'll likely be dead by then.

In response to an earlier post, I predict that Harry and Meghan will adopt children in the future. She is getting a little older now and may have one or two more (Archie's gestation seemed to go very well, bless his heart). They seem to care deeply for the children of Africa and I can see them adopting a few orphans from there.

I know adoption is typically seen in a very positive light in the States. In many other countries concerns about the negative effects of adoption seem to be more prominent. This is not to say that adoption is by definition a bad thing (it can turn out really good for both parents and child but, unfortunately, that's not always the case) but there are a lot of problems caused by the adoption industry (it's a money making business!) that shouldn't be ignored either.

And I agree with those who state that adopting a child into the spotlights of the British royal family would most likely not be in the best interest of the child.