Meghan Markle: Citizenship and Religious Conversion

[ACO]

Yeah there will be no media from this and it shouldn't. Meghan must be exhausted. She clearly has been very very busy. Probably counting down until the honeymoon.

[Alisa]

Originally Posted by royal rob

Well you won’t get it. It’s private or should be it would be a terrible slip up to make it a photo call

No one is asking for a photo call
just one official photo will suffice.

[soapstar]

The BRF don't release official photos for these type of private events, so we won't be seeing one from Meghan.

[royal rob]

There isn’t a photo for everything royals do privately something some people will have to get use too. And don’t plan on seeing monthly photos of little babies either. Doesn’t happen

[hel]

In case anyone is interested, there's a wee bit about the Kensington Palace Chapel on the website of BCA Consulting, who did a refurbishment of it in the early 2000s.

Built in the 1830s, it had apparently been converted to accommodation use, but was restored to reflect its original use and was rededicated in 2002.

There are a couple of pictures on the company's website, though they're very small.

Kensington Palace Chapel case study by BCA Consulting

[Madame Verseau]

It's nice that her parents are coming. That conversation between Harry and Tom Sr should be interesting.

[Curryong]

Thanks hel. How interesting. I know Kate was confirmed at the Chapel at St James and thought that was where Meghan would be too. It's lovely that this little Chapel has been rededicated.

It will be great if Meghan's father can come to the ceremony. I'm sure Harry and he will get on like a house on fire once they get to know each other.

[Lady Reem]

Originally Posted by Somebody

Again, the difference is that Máxima was Dutch when her children were born... To me it makes a big difference if you use the custom of the country of your citizenship (of course that prevails) or the country that you are only 'living in' while not a citizen (in that case, I'd say her legal name should be used - so that is unless they speed up her process, which I think would be the wise thing to do).

Having Dutch kids is irrelevant in determining if or not one can hold a Dutch title, and in any case Maxima still holds Argentinian citizenship as she wasn’t allowed to renounce regardless of her fast tracked Dutch one. So the Dutch have an Argentinian as its Queen which is fine in my book (progress & all that.)

Her children are also half Argentinian, are they automatically Argentinian citizens as well? Children born to Prince Harry and Meghan will have both British and American citizenship obviously.

[American Observer7]

Originally Posted by Lady Reem

Having Dutch kids is irrelevant in determining if or not one can hold a Dutch title, and in any case Maxima still holds Argentinian citizenship as she wasn’t allowed to renounce regardless of her fast tracked Dutch one. So the Dutch have an Argentinian as its Queen which is fine in my book (progress & all that.)

Her children are also half Argentinian, are they automatically Argentinian citizens as well? Children born to Prince Harry and Meghan will have both British and American citizenship obviously.

In regards to Harry and Meghan's children, yes they will. Thank you for pointing this out.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Lady Reem

Having Dutch kids is irrelevant in determining if or not one can hold a Dutch title, and in any case Maxima still holds Argentinian citizenship as she wasn’t allowed to renounce regardless of her fast tracked Dutch one. So the Dutch have an Argentinian as its Queen which is fine in my book (progress & all that.)

Her children are also half Argentinian, are they automatically Argentinian citizens as well?

That is actually a good question. Like many countries in the American continent, Argentina adopts the principle of jus soli under which any person born in Argentinian territory automatically acquires Argentinian citizenship by birth, unless his or her parents are in the service of a foreign government, e.g. diplomats. However, Argentinian law also recognizes jus sanguinis, meaning that children of at least one Argentinian parent also acquire Argentinian citizenship.

Since Máxima was an Argentinian citizen at the time when her daughters were born (and actually still is), my understanding is that Amalia, Alexia and Ariane also have Argentinian citizenship. Has that ever been an issue in the Netherlands ?

[Somebody]

Why do the British royals share pictures after the christening and not of confirmation? Both are considered private religious events and as long as the monarch is also the head of the church and needs to be a member it is not an entirely private affair for this specific family.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

That is actually a good question. Like many countries in the American continent, Argentina adopts the principle of jus soli under which any person born in Argentinian territory automatically acquires Argentinian citizenship by birth, unless his or her parents are in the service of a foreign government, e.g. diplomats. However, Argentinian law also recognizes jus sanguinis, meaning that children of at least one Argentinian parent also acquire Argentinian citizenship.

Since Máxima was an Argentinian citizen at the time when her daughters were born (and actually still is), my understanding is that Amalia, Alexia and Ariane also have Argentinian citizenship. Has that ever been an issue in the Netherlands ?

Off-topic but happy to clarify. The princesses are not Argentinian citizens! According to Argentinian law (looked it up ahain to be sure) they can opt to become Argentinian citizens (as children of an Argentinian parent) but it is not automatic.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Somebody

Off-topic but happy to clarify. The princesses are not Argentinian citizens! According to Argentinian law (looked it up ahain to be sure) they can opt to become Argentinian citizens (as children of an Argentinian parent) but it is not automatic.

I don't think they have to "opt", but rather just choose to apply for it. "Opting" implies to me that they would have to give up any other nationality they may hold, which is not the case, see the following link .

The right to citizenship itself is acquired by birth if one of the parents is a native Argentinian, but you are right that it is not automatic as it is incumbent upon the interested person to claim that right by choice and, apparently, at any age.

[wyevale]

share pictures after the christening and not of confirmation?

In the United Kingdom Christenings [which are generally of infants] has LONG been a Social affair. Both Families of the Parents, Godparents and friends dress up, and there is a party to celebrate.
Confirmations are altogether more low-key, as neither Families, Godparents or Friends need attend. The person being Confirmed might go out to Lunch, but i've never heard of it being a 'Big thing' in the way Christenings often are.
HMQ may be head of the CoE, but in the UK Religion is essentially a private matter, and that applies to the Royal Family as it does to any other...

[Lady Reem]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

I don't think they have to "opt", but rather just choose to apply for it. "Opting" implies to me that they would have to give up any other nationality they may hold, which is not the case, see the following link .

The right to citizenship itself is acquired by birth if one of the parents is a native Argentinian, but you are right that it is not automatic as it is incumbent upon the interested person to claim that right by choice and, apparently, at any age.

Would any future H/M offspring still be subject to US taxation laws once they come of age even if they hadn’t set foot on the land nor aquired a US passport and had no interest in doing so? Or would they have to officially renounce? I find this type of situation so bizarre.

[ACO]

My guess is Meghan's citizenship will be fast tracked the moment a pregnancy is announced if it's not already in progress. I just can't see them wanting to deal with that with all the foreign red tape with the future children. It takes 5 years to officially become a British citizen. I have no doubt they will have children in the timeframe. Dual citizenship with the US is going to be interesting enough with Meghan come tax time.

[TLLK]

Originally Posted by wyevale

In the United Kingdom Christenings [which are generally of infants] has LONG been a Social affair. Both Families of the Parents, Godparents and friends dress up, and there is a party to celebrate.
Confirmations are altogether more low-key, as neither Families, Godparents or Friends need attend. The person being Confirmed might go out to Lunch, but i've never heard of it being a 'Big thing' in the way Christenings often are.
HMQ may be head of the CoE, but in the UK Religion is essentially a private matter, and that applies to the Royal Family as it does to any other...

Going a bit off topic but for a member of the CoE, is receiving Holy Communion for the first time considered to be a "big thing" like it is for Roman Catholics?

[wyevale]

^ For the individual concerned, I daresay it is.. but there are no white dresses, veils or [for boys] suits and ties...

[Biri]

Originally Posted by wyevale

^ For the individual concerned, I daresay it is.. but there are no white dresses, veils or [for boys] suits and ties...

And how it is during the Confirmation?

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Somebody

Why do the British royals share pictures after the christening and not of confirmation? Both are considered private religious events and as long as the monarch is also the head of the church and needs to be a member it is not an entirely private affair for this specific family.

They did share photographs after William's confirmation-probably for the reason you stated. William is the heir's heir.

https://www.google.com/search?q=prin...Dx4JnjKcGZ9tM:

But I don't recall even an announcement of anyone else's confirmation, not even Harry's.