Harry and Meghan: Wedding Suggestions and Musings

[Pranter]

There have been some interesting solutions I've seen in my state. One of these is to build tiny house communities (do you folks overseas know what those are?) for the homeless.



LaRae

 

[lilybart]

Meghan on the contrary has herself said she is close to her father. People making assumptions based on that Harry hasn't met him yet.

Its not a matter of the old 'giving away', but escorting her down the aisle.

In the marriage ceremony, the officiator usually asks, 'who gives this woman.....'. At this point, the father/escort transfers the hand of the bride to the groom. Thus the expression, 'giving away'.

IMO, At 36 and divorced, it would make sense for her to walk down the isle to her prince unescorted.

 

[Countessmeout]

In the marriage ceremony, the officiator usually asks, 'who gives this woman.....'. At this point, the father/escort transfers the hand of the bride to the groom. Thus the expression, 'giving away'.

IMO, At 36 and divorced, it would make sense for her to walk down the isle to her prince unescorted.

I see no point about the age. I am 36 and would have no issue with my father walking me down the aisle.

It can either be (and is often) stated as 'who presents this woman'. Or it is becoming more common for the question not to be asked at all.

 

[Osipi]

All I can say is that if, for some very odd reason, I found myself in Meghan's shoes and facing a May wedding, the last thing I'd want to do is walk down that aisle in that big church all by myself. I'd definitely want my dad or mom there for the sheer moral support. That has got to be the most nerve wracking moment in any bride's life. Especially with a wedding on this scale.

I'm sure Meghan could pull it off but I don't think she'd want to. ?

 

[Osipi]

Thinking about the removal of the homeless for the royal wedding, I had a flash of memory about rooming that was set up for the Windsor Horse Show one year (if my one brain cell is functioning on a half a cup of coffee). They could easily set something like this up somewhere and the homeless would have a place to go. I don't know how expensive it would be to maintain but could be left up permanently for these people.

I just find it sad that it takes a grand royal wedding to deem that these people need to be moved.

 

[Cocoasneeze]

All I can say is that if, for some very odd reason, I found myself in Meghan's shoes and facing a May wedding, the last thing I'd want to do is walk down that aisle in that big church all by myself. I'd definitely want my dad or mom there for the sheer moral support. That has got to be the most nerve wracking moment in any bride's life. Especially with a wedding on this scale.

I'm sure Meghan could pull it off but I don't think she'd want to. ?

Added the fact, that it will be most likely televised, and watched by millions of people for years to come. Anyone would need a loving person to walk with through that.

 

[lilybart]

I see no point about the age. I am 36 and would have no issue with my father walking me down the aisle.

It can either be (and is often) stated as 'who presents this woman'. Or it is becoming more common for the question not to be asked at all.

I think I included the age as evidence of her independence. And being the 2nd marriage even more. Its just my opinion, nothing more, but I think walking without an escort seems right.

Still its her wedding - the Bride gets to choose.

 

[Countessmeout]

The tiny home communities cost about 10-20,000, with donations, per house to build. Not to mention the land required for them. If land could be found, such a project likely could not be done in the next 6 months, not solving the on hand issue. There is the added issue of continued upkeep, for any of those who may live there, unable to cover even subsidized rent.

Sad thing the wedding brings it up, understandable issue needing to be considered. Hopefully some good can come from this.

 

[Countessmeout]

You can be independent at 18, or 22, when done school, on your own, job and life of your own. There is no age when you become 'independent' and you cast aside your family. Its a nice tradition to be 'escorted'.

All I can say is that if, for some very odd reason, I found myself in Meghan's shoes and facing a May wedding, the last thing I'd want to do is walk down that aisle in that big church all by myself. I'd definitely want my dad or mom there for the sheer moral support. That has got to be the most nerve wracking moment in any bride's life. Especially with a wedding on this scale.

I'm sure Meghan could pull it off but I don't think she'd want to.

Exactly

In a sense it is the biggest 'red carpet of her life'. She is going to have millions of eyes on her, as she enters her new life. Just as its great to have a companion on the red carpet when dealing with award show or premier nerves, its great to have an arm to hold on to when walking down an aisle. It doesn't make a woman less Independent or Modern to do so.

 

[lilybart]

She should walk down the aisle unescorted like Maria (Julie Andrews) in the Sound of Music. What a beautiful scene that was!

 

[ACO]

All I can say is that if, for some very odd reason, I found myself in Meghan's shoes and facing a May wedding, the last thing I'd want to do is walk down that aisle in that big church all by myself. I'd definitely want my dad or mom there for the sheer moral support. That has got to be the most nerve wracking moment in any bride's life. Especially with a wedding on this scale.

I'm sure Meghan could pull it off but I don't think she'd want to. ?

No kidding. There is no way I would want to do that alone.

 

[Cocoasneeze]

Julia Andrews was acting a scene, this is Meghan's real life. It shows nothing about her independence whoever walks with her down the aisle, it's simply nice to have this support on her wedding day.

 

[MARG]

Let's not lose the plot here. The UK is a Welfare State and there are benefits for those old, ill, unemployed, etc. The "homeless" are therefore people who for personal reasons find themselves with nothing. Most are people with less than easy histories and finding them a home is not the end of the problem.

Many have mental issues and are in need of help but I think the worst problem, and one identified, is beggars. Almost all beggars are not homeless and they are not harmless. They can be very intimidating and are a definite problem with people in the towns and cities and certainly a problem with tourists.

Needless to say, the homeless and beggars need different solutions.

 

[andrew]

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How did Camilla walk down the aisle? Alone, with Charles or she didn't walk down the aisle at all?

 

[Iluvbertie]

As she and Charles were already married when they entered St George's they entered together. Had they been allowed a religious ceremony I suspect her father or son would have escorted her down the aisle.

My grandmother married three times. I attended her third wedding when my father, her son-in-law 'gave her away'. He joked for years afterwards that it was every man's dream surely to 'give away' their mother-in-law (whom he adored by the way). She was also 61 at the time of her third marriage (no living ex-husbands however as they both died quite young).

 

[Gaudete]

I think what the press have done with this is to twist it into a "heartless politician" story when actually it's a common sense approach. Windsor doesn't have a huge issue with homelessness anyway and realistically we're only talking about a few hours one afternoon. Certain newspapers will make a fuss for political reasons but shifting these people out of the town for one afternoon just isn't newsworthy.

 

[Pranter]

https://www.boredpanda.com/homeless-veterans-free-houses-community-kansas/


http://www.trueactivist.com/kansas-...-village-of-tiny-homes-for-homeless-veterans/


Each home costs around 10,000 and this is mostly paid for by donations from the local community and businesses. In this case it's a VA project for homeless veterans so VA groups are donating funds as well.

Anyway I know there are at least a few cities in other areas doing this too for the homeless.


LaRae

 

[Gaudete]

Having re-read the statement the Councillor made, it isn’t actually the homeless he’s talking about. He’s saying that the council must take action on “aggressive begging”. And he would be absolutely right. Having just spent a week in Rome, I can attest to how frustrating it is to be accosted every 5 paces by professional beggars who aren’t homeless and just seek to disrupt to make a quick buck.

 

[Mirabel]

Having re-read the statement the Councillor made, it isn’t actually the homeless he’s talking about. He’s saying that the council must take action on “aggressive begging”. And he would be absolutely right. Having just spent a week in Rome, I can attest to how frustrating it is to be accosted every 5 paces by professional beggars who aren’t homeless and just seek to disrupt to make a quick buck.

True.
Many times these beggars are very intimidating; they follow people badgering them and it is scary.

Begging is supposed to be illegal, but the police don't seem willing to enforce that.

 

[lilybart]

Julia Andrews was acting a scene, this is Meghan's real life. It shows nothing about her independence whoever walks with her down the aisle, it's simply nice to have this support on her wedding day.

Sure, its a movie - but I used it to show that walking down the aisle alone doesn't look 'odd' or like something's missing, but it looks quite beautiful and creates a lovely imagery.

Look, a lot of ladies have complicated families, and walking down the aisle alone might be what makes sense for them. Its happening more and more.
Meghan might help to create a new trend which would help other ladies with 'complicated' families to choose to do this as well. Its not a rebellious act to do this - it makes a lot of sense for some people.

 

[Cocoasneeze]

Sure, its a movie - but I used it to show that walking down the aisle alone doesn't look 'odd' or like something's missing, but it looks quite beautiful and creates a lovely imagery.

Look, a lot of ladies have complicated families, and walking down the aisle alone might be what makes sense for them. Its happening more and more.
Meghan might help to create a new trend which would help other ladies with 'complicated' families to choose to do this as well. Its not a rebellious act to do this - it makes a lot of sense for some people.

I hope Meghan doesn't feel any pressure to create any trends on her wedding day, but do exactly what makes her feel comfortable. This is a day she shouldn't have to think about other women and their family issues.

We will see what she'll end up doing, but my prediction is, that she'll have her father walk her down the aisle. Or mother and father.

 

[loonytick]

In a sense it is the biggest 'red carpet of her life'. She is going to have millions of eyes on her, as she enters her new life. Just as its great to have a companion on the red carpet when dealing with award show or premier nerves, its great to have an arm to hold on to when walking down an aisle. It doesn't make a woman less Independent or Modern to do so.

I also suspect that when one is marrying into a royal family, when so much of the focus is on the traditions and presence of your soon-to-be-in-laws, any presence of your own family and the life and experience you yourself are bringing to the marriage feels a little extra valuable and comforting.

 

[wyevale]

In truth the aisle of St George's Chapel is a very great deal shorter than that of Westminster Abbey..

Nevertheless I'd expect her Father to walk it with the Bride...

 

[ACO]

In truth the aisle of St George's Chapel is a very great deal shorter than that of Westminster Abbey..

Nevertheless I'd expect her Father to walk it with the Bride...

Sure but it is still rather lengthy. I see no reason why she should walk it alone.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

If both of Meghan's parents walk their daughter down the aisle, are their church stipulations as to which side the father is on and which side the mother is on?

 

[Somebody]

I fulle expect her to be escorted by her father but if not; why not walk in on Harry's arm? Or is that only considered appropriate if they are already married (as is the case in for example the Netherlands)?

 

[Denville]

the whole point is not for them to "walk in together" but for them to come together at the altar...If they were already married nad coming for a blessing, it would be OK....
but they are 2 individuals who are joined together in marriage..

 

[Princess Squirrel]

I posted on the engagement thread that I saw Harry and Meghan fridge magnets in a London souvenir shop.

 

[Somebody]

the whole point is not for them to "walk in together" but for them to come together at the altar...If they were already married nad coming for a blessing, it would be OK....
but they are 2 individuals who are joined together in marriage..

That's what I thought. So, very different from countries in which a civil marriage is required before a church wedding can take place. Although there are still many brides who walk in on their father's side (or both groom and bride being escorted by their parents) after they already got married civilly as required by law. And it is completely normal to enter the city hall together...

 

[Princess Squirrel]

My husband and I walked in together and we weren't already married. It wasn't a church but we'd have done the same if it were. I didn't need giving away. But it should be each individual couple who decides.

If both of Meghan's parents walk their daughter down the aisle, are their church stipulations as to which side the father is on and which side the mother is on?

People seem to think that the CoE is really prescriptive. It isn't. I am sure you could have whichever parent you want whichever side. I am sure a blind bride could be escorted by her guidedog!