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Old 02-05-2018, 02:43 PM
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Since Harry has worked with Michelle Obama on multiple occasions, and their relationship appears warm and friendly, maybe the invitation wil go to her and Barack can be her 'plus 1'!
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Old 02-05-2018, 02:48 PM
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The logistics is a bit trickier, though. While it might be fairly easy for you or I to invite, say Bob from Accounting - the hard part being figuring out where to seat him - itís a bit harder to invite a former President of the United States - as he comes with a not exactly small security detail, and there is a concern that, given the current situation surrounding the visit of current President Trump, it might be seen as insulting to the current President if the Obamas are invited, but the Trumps are not.
Security detail for a former president is much less than a sitting president. In fact, there has been previous presidents that have given up their security details during their lifetime. Given how tight security will be at the wedding, there is no reason to believe that somehow security will be much more than when he normally travels. Certainly, not at the level of Nancy Reagan when she attended Charles or Andrew's wedding.

Speaking security. I know there was an article about a rumor of diverting flights to a different flight path that day. Aside from the noise, I'd think that's a smart move given that this wedding is televised both in UK and abroad. I know they didn't for Wessex wedding, but the level of terror threat was also different in those days.
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Old 02-05-2018, 03:20 PM
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Didn't Harry mention to someone on a walkabout that he was going to set up a viewing party on the grounds of Kensington Palace for people associated with his charities?
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Old 02-05-2018, 03:24 PM
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He never said it, it was a rumor that came from one of the papers.

And I believe the article said a viewing party for supporters of the charity. I didn't take that as that'll be where the reps from the charity will be at.
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:56 PM
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Since Harry has worked with Michelle Obama on multiple occasions, and their relationship appears warm and friendly, maybe the invitation wil go to her and Barack can be her 'plus 1'!
I don't think royal weddings have a plus 1--you are either on the invitation list or not. If you are not on it, you don't get in.
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Old 02-05-2018, 05:03 PM
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To honor his mother Princess Diana, could you see Prince Harry having her sister, Baroness Jane Fellowes do a reading at the wedding?
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Old 02-05-2018, 06:19 PM
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To honor his mother Princess Diana, could you see Prince Harry having her sister, Baroness Jane Fellowes do a reading at the wedding?
Isn't she called simply Lady Fellowes rather than Baroness Jane Fellowes ?
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Old 02-05-2018, 08:19 PM
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That is such an obscure suggestion, I cannot understand why people want to make everything about Diana. If anything just leave an empty seat like William did.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:03 PM
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That is such an obscure suggestion, I cannot understand why people want to make everything about Diana. If anything just leave an empty seat like William did.
Suggesting that Harry's aunt might do a reading? Why is that obscure? By all accounts Harry and William have a relationship with their mother's sisters.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:12 PM
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I won't add to the redundant "will they, won't they" debate, re: Trump and Obama attending the wedding. I will just say that I'll be surprised if the Obamas aren't invited and in attendance, particularly Michelle.
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:46 AM
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As far as we are aware neither the Obamas or Trumps have been invited. Why the ongoing debate on the "what ifs"? The media, especially the tabloids publish nonsense before anything is confirmed and everyone has to debate it while knowing nothing yet.
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:56 AM
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Meeting someone does not make you my best friend forever, I meet people all the time and they do not come home with me ever......so if there is a problem with that then it is not my problem.

I have met tons of important people down to a former president when I worked in politics and even ambassadors, movie stars, all in another life time, not one of them became my BFF.......

I just don't get this attitude that a former president must be invited to the wedding as if he is the star of the wedding.........so what if Harry and Obama worked together for a charity, no big deal, it does not make or break relationship ever. Harry has worked most of his adult life for charities and knows most of them on a first name basis......does that make all of them his own personal friends.......don't think so! He needs those high powered, high profile people to come to help him for they have the bucks/money and they can help his cause. Why the total outrage if a former president is not invited by some here, who is going to be blamed if the former president does not get an invite......done with this conversation period.
I think that is the root of the issue..... in your mind the only people invited to a wedding fall in two categories: either friends or family. And us suggesting the Obamas attend, makes them friends.

No one is suggesting they are friends Simply colleagues.

If you are having a small intimate wedding, family and friends would be invited. But when you have a large wedding, you often invite colleagues. Look at the Cambridge wedding. Yes there were people they had to invite, which wont be at Harry's, like commonwealth heads, politicians and many foreign royals. But there were also people from other aspects of their lives, not just their friends and family

-William's commanding officers in the military and others like the admiral of the submarine service which he was commodore of
-their former landlord in Scotland
-celebrities like the Beckhams who he knew through charity work

None of these would be considered friends. Celebrities like the Beckhams he would have met on occasion at events.

So suggesting Harry and Meghan would invite co-workers and colleagues doesn't seem a stretch.

Would you be shocked if suits actors were invited? If not, how are the Obamas or any other people Harry has worked with any different?

Besides family (if no kids but bridal about 100 guests likely) as well as broad spectrum of friends and spouses, still plenty of room for colleagues, and representatives from charities and more.

Those invited to the evening party will likely just be friends and family.

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Isn't she called simply Lady Fellowes rather than Baroness Jane Fellowes ?
Lady Jane Fellowes, Baroness Fellowes. But correct, not Baroness Jane, as we would not refer to someone as Duchess Kate.

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Suggesting that Harry's aunt might do a reading? Why is that obscure? By all accounts Harry and William have a relationship with their mother's sisters.
Not obscure.

Simply seems to some way too much emphasis is being placed on 'to honor Diana he should.....'. Their choice of a person to read should be based on someone who they are close to, and who they want part of their day. If that is one of his Aunts, that is great, but should choose it because of his relationship with that Aunt. Not with honoring Diana.
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:58 AM
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Move over Princess pushy, there is now a 'prince pushy' on the scene

Duchess of York will be invited to Harry's wedding | Daily Mail Online

Daily mail coining Harry as 'prince pushy' suggesting Fergie will indeed attend the wedding because he is forcing the issue.

Notice they say that the compromise will or may be the evening event. Once again they are playing the safe card. Since we aren't likely to know or see photos of those at the evening event, we would never know.
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Old 02-06-2018, 07:03 AM
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Move over Princess pushy, there is now a 'prince pushy' on the scene

Duchess of York will be invited to Harry's wedding | Daily Mail Online

Daily mail coining Harry as 'prince pushy' suggesting Fergie will indeed attend the wedding because he is forcing the issue.

Notice they say that the compromise will or may be the evening event. Once again they are playing the safe card. Since we aren't likely to know or see photos of those at the evening event, we would never know.

I guess this "row" just shows that Harry likes Sarah after all and thinks she should be at the wedding. That is not surprising to me as Harry is close to Sarah's daughters and seems to be in good terms also with both Andrew and Sarah.

Actually, Sarah's being banned from RF events is pretty much ridiculous considering that she and Andrew practically live together. I don't know if they will ever formally remarry, but I can see her being "brought back into the RF" in same way when Charles becomes king.

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I won't add to the redundant "will they, won't they" debate, re: Trump and Obama attending the wedding. I will just say that I'll be surprised if the Obamas aren't invited and in attendance, particularly Michelle.
I, on the contrary, will be surprised if the Obamas are invited given that they are not personal friends of either Harry or Meghan and there is no reason really to invite them.
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Old 02-06-2018, 09:07 AM
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I guess this "row" just shows that Harry likes Sarah after all and thinks she should be at the wedding. That is not surprising to me as Harry is close to Sarah's daughters and seems to be in good terms also with both Andrew and Sarah.

Actually, Sarah's being banned from RF events is pretty much ridiculous considering that she and Andrew practically live together. I don't know if they will ever formally remarry, but I can see her being "brought back into the RF" in same way when Charles becomes king.



I, on the contrary, will be surprised if the Obamas are invited given that they are not personal friends of either Harry or Meghan and there is no reason really to invite them.
You are assuming this "row " has actually taken place, and not something the tabloids thought up to fill up column inches.
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Old 02-06-2018, 09:57 AM
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I have not read anything to indicate that Harry and Fergie has had much contact over the years other than that one ski trip. So I'm not sure if that's someone he'd go to bat for. I'm sure there are more important thing than Fergie he can spend his time on.
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:34 AM
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Actually, Sarah's being banned from RF events is pretty much ridiculous considering that she and Andrew practically live together. I don't know if they will ever formally remarry, but I can see her being "brought back into the RF" in same way when Charles becomes king.

I doubt that.
I don't believe Charles likes Fergie any better than Philip does.
And he is bound to be less indulgent of Andrew than the Queen has been.
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:36 AM
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I, on the contrary, will be surprised if the Obamas are invited given that they are not personal friends of either Harry or Meghan and there is no reason really to invite them.
This is so weird - because I actually thought they were friends. Obama showing up at the Invictus Games and Harry's warm friendship with Michelle O - I thought they were friends. Especially with Obama doing that interview with Harry recently. If they weren't friends or at the very least quite friendly with one another, it seems odd that Obama would still be doing so much with Harry AFTER his presidency ended. That screams "we're chaps who started off as work friends, but now are more than that".

Because now that Obama is no longer president, if they were only work colleagues, I'd expect that they wouldn't be working together anymore.

Additionally, when Harry went to Chicago - he and Michelle did those surprise visits with kids at the school - if Harry wasn't friends with The Obamas, why the continual events together?

It just seems to me that a Senior British Royal wouldn't need to do things like that with a former president unless he truly wanted to. It suggests a friendship, imo.

Whether that translates to an invite for the wedding is anyone's guess I guess - but I could see Harry not inviting them to the ceremony, but giving them a reception invite, since the press wouldn't see that. It would avoid the drama with the current potus.

I was kinda surprised to see so many saying Obama and Harry weren't friends when I honestly thought they were. Ditto with Harry and Michelle.

I guess not everyone saw it the way I did, lol.
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Obama was not involved in charities when he was POTUS. His job back then was being president. Now that he is no longer president and is focused on humanitarian work, it is natural for him to have events with other people who are also involved in humanitarian causes like Harry. That doesn't mean they are personal friends. Again, I don't see any evidence that they are.
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