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Old 01-20-2018, 06:27 PM
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Didn't Grace Kelly have MGM costume designed create her dress specifically so it would look good on TV and news reels?

Given that the world less those 800 people in the church will be viewing this wedding via TV or the internet, it just makes sense to use hair, make-up, costumers, set designers, etc from her previous life to help create what is effectively a massive live show.
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Old 01-20-2018, 07:16 PM
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I think people are incorrectly confusing make-up artists' abilities with make-up artists' styles.
Common sense tells us that the style of make-up that will be used by Meghan on her wedding day will be different from the style of make-up she used while on the set of Suits - this will be the case whether her wedding day make-up is applied by a Suits make-up artist or someone else.
Ultimately, Meghan will decide what style it is. Not the makeup artist. The makeup artist get her there. Now, on the way there, there are things like what type of foundation works best for her skin but still works well under the lights and in St. Georgeís chapel and so on for other makeup issues. They would need to scout out the same location and overall feel of the wedding like any other makeup artist would, but they have the advantage of know what works best for Meghan. The face is like a canvas when it comes to makeup. Not only do you have to know the makeup, you have to know the canvas as well to achieve the best look.
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:22 PM
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Didn't Grace Kelly have MGM costume designed create her dress specifically so it would look good on TV and news reels?

Given that the world less those 800 people in the church will be viewing this wedding via TV or the internet, it just makes sense to use hair, make-up, costumers, set designers, etc from her previous life to help create what is effectively a massive live show.
It isnt a Ďmassive live showí, or a Ďproductioní - it is a religious ceremony of marriage taking place in a church.

And it has to be treated like that by all of those involved. At least Meghan knows that - after all she is converting to the Anglican religion.
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:53 AM
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It isnt a ‘massive live show’, or a ‘production’ - it is a religious ceremony of marriage taking place in a church.

And it has to be treated like that by all of those involved. At least Meghan knows that - after all she is converting to the Anglican religion.
The two don’t conflict. It is going to be watched around the world with huge audiences and media around the world are flying in to cover it. That’s just the way it is.
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Old 01-21-2018, 07:03 PM
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So, it is official. The Obamas will not be coming to the wedding. BP confirmed it.

Probably for the better, if the intent is a low-key affair.
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Old 01-21-2018, 07:05 PM
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So, it is official. The Obamas will not be coming to the wedding. BP confirmed it.

Probably for the better, if the intent is a low-key affair.
Can you cite the sources for this information please? Curious minds need to know.
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Old 01-21-2018, 07:15 PM
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Can you cite the sources for this information please? Curious minds need to know.
From today's Daily Mail:

Sebastian Shakespeare states he "heard" Harry won't invite the Obamas to avoid a diplomatic row with Donald Trump. The article also states Kensington Palace refuses to comment on the wedding.

Obama isn't going to Harry and Meghan's wedding | Daily Mail Online
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The day I'll believe anything out of Sebastian Shakespeare's mouth is the day that I buy swampland in Florida on purpose.

Just was curious as Leopoldine stated that BP confirmed this little tidbit.

It won't surprise me one bit though if the Obamas are not invited. I think a lot of people and the media have construed a good working relationship for common causes into a personal friendship and I don't believe that is the case.
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Old 01-21-2018, 07:31 PM
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So, it is official. The Obamas will not be coming to the wedding. BP confirmed it.

Probably for the better, if the intent is a low-key affair.
I didn’t see a confirmation. Just the KP wouldn’t announce details about the wedding. And it seems unlikely BP would be the one to make the announcement. I’m sure they are aware beforehand, but it seems the way the communication is organized is the Palace office for the specific royal would make announcement related to them.

And in the same article, he talked about Shakira being Meghan’s favorite pop star because she once audition for a Shakira video. That’s... not accurate. Anytime Meghan has been interviewed or written on The Tig, I don’t think I’ve seen a Shakira song.
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Old 01-21-2018, 07:49 PM
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I didnít see a confirmation. Just the KP wouldnít announce details about the wedding. And it seems unlikely BP would be the one to make the announcement. Iím sure they are aware beforehand, but it seems the way the communication is organized is the Palace office for the specific royal would make announcement related to them.

And in the same article, he talked about Shakira being Meghanís favorite pop star because she once audition for a Shakira video. Thatís... not accurate. Anytime Meghan has been interviewed or written on The Tig, I donít think Iíve seen a Shakira song.
Oops, I didn't mean to imply the article contained a confirmation from BP. I posted it because I assumed it misled others in thinking the story had been confirmed. You're right -any announcements & details re the wedding will come from KP anyway.
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Old 01-21-2018, 07:52 PM
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Oops, I didn't mean to imply the article contained a confirmation from BP. I posted it because I assumed it misled others in thinking the story had been confirmed. You're right -any announcements & details re the wedding will come from KP anyway.
Oh, I know you didnít, but there is a post before that said BP did. Thatís what I was referring to in the first paragraph. I went back to talking about the article after that.
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Old 01-21-2018, 08:13 PM
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I read the Fail's article and it's supposition. And I agree, an official statement would have come from KP. I do believe a decision has been made on Obama at the wedding. I base it on Trump's withdrawal from the dedication ceremony for the new US embassy in London. Trump blamed a "bad deal" for the embassy property under the Obama administration. (Actually the sale was done under Obama's predecessor, Bush 43.) PM May was asked by a reporter if Trump should be invited to the wedding. May said she is not responsible for the guest list. I believe all parties involved know Trump is not on the guest list (it's not a state occasion) and Obama may come because of the friendship between Harry and him and they are trying to calm diplomatic waters before the meetings at Davos this week. I don't mean to bring politics into this issue but apparently politics is being played here, and that's a shame.
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Old 01-21-2018, 08:16 PM
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KP or Clarence house would make any official announcement of the wedding. More likely KP as that is where Harry's office is, or Clarence for his father. BP would not be making any statements on the wedding.

I think once again DM is taking a calculated risk. There is a high chance the Obamas may not be invited due to the political issues around it. Hopefully it comes down to what the couple wants and we see them. The DM is just as always staking their bets, hoping to get the scoop. They will find some way to back peddle as always, if they prove to be wrong.
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Old 01-21-2018, 08:25 PM
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One thing that probably would be detrimental to having the Obamas attend the wedding regardless of whether its political or based on personal friendship is the fact that we're talking even more security here.

From what I understand, not only will Scotland Yard/Metropolitan Police be required to beef up security around the Obamas (they have a special department for protection officers for visiting VIPs, but also there is the cost of the Secret Service personnel that would have to be included. Even though Barack Obama has left office, he will continue to have Secret Service protection for the rest of his life.

One thing for sure is that if the Obamas or any other prominent person will be attending the wedding, its not going to be made public and kept under wraps for the simple reason that its safer for all concerned that these things are not announced.

Just my take on it.
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The security for a former President is significantly less than a sitting President. In fact, lifetime secret service protection for Bush 43 and subsequent presidents were only reinstated in 2013 by Obama. Before that, the rule was changed in 90s to allow only 10 years after the President leaves the office.
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Old 01-21-2018, 08:32 PM
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I read the Fail's article and it's supposition. And I agree, an official statement would have come from KP. I do believe a decision has been made on Obama at the wedding. I base it on Trump's withdrawal from the dedication ceremony for the new US embassy in London. Trump blamed a "bad deal" for the embassy property under the Obama administration. (Actually the sale was done under Obama's predecessor, Bush 43.) PM May was asked by a reporter if Trump should be invited to the wedding. May said she is not responsible for the guest list. I believe all parties involved know Trump is not on the guest list (it's not a state occasion) and Obama may come because of the friendship between Harry and him and they are trying to calm diplomatic waters before the meetings at Davos this week. I don't mean to bring politics into this issue but apparently politics is being played here, and that's a shame.
I donít think we can read indications about the wedding based on Trumpís cancelled visit. I doubt heíd know of Obama is invited and there are other things at play with that.
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Old 01-22-2018, 07:23 AM
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I donít think we can read indications about the wedding based on Trumpís cancelled visit. I doubt heíd know of Obama is invited and there are other things at play with that.


Not on the cancelled visit, but I'm sure Trump will know whether the Obamas are there and is almost guaranteed to react if they are there. The insulting things he has said about the family in the past won't even enter the equation in his reaction.
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:17 AM
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What a busy year for the Royals. 2 weddings and two babies. I do wonder of Meghan and Harry as a little bit thrilled some focus is a little off their wedding though not by much. They can have a few days of breathing room.

I suspect we likely will hear more plans in the next month. The Royal PR game in overtime.
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What a busy year for the Royals. 2 weddings and two babies. I do wonder of Meghan and Harry as a little bit thrilled some focus is a little off their wedding though not by much. They can have a few days of breathing room.

I suspect we likely will hear more plans in the next month. The Royal PR game in overtime.
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:56 AM
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Oh, good grief! I've seen pearls clutched about all sorts of things, but I never imagined I'd see it spurred on by the idea that a royal might opt to use professional hair and makeup people who are in the part of the industry that has to be particularly agile and adaptable to various conditions and styles.

This would be a silly conversation even if we were talking about her bringing in strangers who've worked in TV to do her hair and makeup. I seriously doubt she'd be the first royal bride to do that, if so. But in this case the artists in question are the people with whom she's built a longstanding working relationship. They know her skin, they know her hair (probably even better than she does, really), and more importantly they've been the people around her on days when she got ready to shoot difficult scenes, the people who helped her get ready to work when she'd just gotten off from redeye flights back from visiting Harry...quite likely they're friends, and who doesn't find comfort from having friends on hand while getting ready for their wedding?

Not that we even know for sure that she's talking about bringing them in. And as someone else pointed out, we'll probably never know who does her hair and makeup on the day.
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