Harry and Meghan: Wedding Suggestions and Musings

[sarahedwards2]

A little different wording than used at all other royal weddings.

[Dman]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

Prince Henry and Meghan will sign the register. Who are the other people who will sign the register?

Charles, Camilla, Doria, William.

[Purrs]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

Prince Henry and Meghan will sign the register. Who are the other people who will sign the register?

Two adult witnesses of their choice (William will probably be one) and (I think, other posters correct me if I'm wrong), the Dean of Windsor. He is the clergy that will greet Meghan at the beginning of the procession. (Usually the minister of the particular church where the wedding is performed signs it.)

St. George's Chapel is a bit unusual in that it is a "Royal Peculiar", under the direct jurisdiction of the Queen unlike most C of E churches that are in a diocese - a district under a bishop. Does anyone know if this means the Queen will also sign the register?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_George%27s_Chapel

[CyrilVladisla]

Am I correct: You can watch the Royal Wedding on Youtube - The Royal Channel?

[Marchesina]

For forum posters who follow other royal families, this wedding will be a lot like Carl Philip's and Sophia's in Sweden, with the combination of traditional music and soul.
I like the choice of the modern wording of the service, because the exchanging of rings and the blessing, do really use some beautiful words. I am a bit disappointed that they didn't go for their full name, except at the beginning of the service, but reading the whole order of service I have the feeling they wanted to keep the ceremony as much personal and intimate as possible, despite the location and the crowd gathered outside.

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by Somebody

Link to the PDF of the Order of Service (just released).

This order of service is the Church of England's current default marriage service.

The Marriage Service

An alternative service was used for the Cambridge wedding and, if I am not mistaken, for previous British royal weddings.

A Form of Solemnization of Matrimony (Alternative Services: Series One) | The Church of England


Some of the differences between the two services:

1. The default order of service has the bride giving a wedding ring to the groom as an option.
2. The alternative order of service has the bride vowing to obey the groom as an option.
3. Giving away the bride is optional in the default service, but it is mandatory in the alternative service.

Originally Posted by Purrs

The Coptic Orthodox Archbishop of London will also be part of the clergy.

I wonder why?

[texankitcat]

Originally Posted by Marchesina

For forum posters who follow other royal families, this wedding will be a lot like Carl Philip's and Sophia's in Sweden, with the combination of traditional music and soul.
I like the choice of the modern wording of the service, because the exchanging of rings and the blessing, do really use some beautiful words. I am a bit disappointed that they didn't go for their full name, except at the beginning of the service, but reading the whole order of service I have the feeling they wanted to keep the ceremony as much personal and intimate as possible, despite the location and the crowd gathered outside.

I definitely got that vibe from the program when I read it. I have to say I find the choices more appropriate for this wedding due to incorporating Meghan’s American heritage. I didn’t understand where it fit into a Swedish Royal Wedding. JMO of course.

[Marchesina]

Originally Posted by texankitcat

I definitely got that vibe from the program when I read it. I have to say I find the choices more appropriate for this wedding due to incorporating Meghan’s American heritage. I didn’t understand where it fit into a Swedish Royal Wedding. JMO of course.

That was quite random, maybe Sofia was a big fan of Sister Act growing up

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

This order of service is the Church of England's current default marriage service.

The Marriage Service

An alternative service was used for the Cambridge wedding and, if I am not mistaken, for previous British royal weddings.

A Form of Solemnization of Matrimony (Alternative Services: Series One) | The Church of England


Some of the differences between the two services:

1. The default order of service has the bride giving a wedding ring to the groom as an option.
2. The alternative order of service has the bride vowing to obey the groom as an option.
3. Giving away the bride is optional in the default service, but it is mandatory in the alternative service.




I wonder why?

It was customary in other British royal ceremonies to have visiting clergy from other Churches such as the Cardinal Archbishop of Westminster representing the Roman Catholic Church, the Moderator of the Church of Scotland, representatives from the Free Churches in England, etc. I don’t know if a Coptic Archbishop was present in any previous wedding, but it may be a form of acknowledging the persecution of Coptic Christians including the horrible beheading of Coptic Christians by ISIS militants , among them the infamous “Jihad Joe” from the UK.

[texankitcat]

Originally Posted by Marchesina

That was quite random, maybe Sofia was a big fan of Sister Act growing up

Perhaps! It was certainly out of place and definitely went on way too long.

[Purrs]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

Am I correct: You can watch the Royal Wedding on Youtube - The Royal Channel?

Yes, you are. Here's the link (7 hours to go currently):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N42MQJX4KoY

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Marchesina

For forum posters who follow other royal families, this wedding will be a lot like Carl Philip's and Sophia's in Sweden, with the combination of traditional music and soul.
I like the choice of the modern wording of the service, because the exchanging of rings and the blessing, do really use some beautiful words. I am a bit disappointed that they didn't go for their full name, except at the beginning of the service, but reading the whole order of service I have the feeling they wanted to keep the ceremony as much personal and intimate as possible, despite the location and the crowd gathered outside.

It will still be more formal than CP and Sofia’s wedding music, which was all pop music or traditional Lutheran hymns. Harry and Meghan’s wedding will also include a good deal of classical music, which, correct me if I am wrong, is not reallly common in Anglican services. William and Kate’s wedding music for example was mostly Anglican hymns and psalms ( ie liturgical music) or fanfares and patriotic hymns. I don’t remember classical pieces in their wedding.

For the British RF, I suppose Harry and Meghan’s wedding is as modern as it can get, and there will be pop elements with Stand by Me and This Little Light of Mine for example.

Depending on the arrangement, I do think that This Little Light of Mine as a recessional may indeed feel a little like Joyful, Joyful at CP and Sofia’s wedding.

[Purrs]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

. Harry and Meghan’s wedding will also include a good deal of classical music, which, correct me if I am wrong, is not reallly common in Anglican services. William and Kate’s wedding music for example was mostly Anglican hymns and psalms ( ie liturgical music) or fanfares and patriotic hymns. I don’t remember classical pieces in their wedding.

Usually it's a combination - 2 or 3 hymns and other music at other points (usually classical) - bride's entrance, signing the register, leaving the church. (I've also heard it when guests are entering, prior to the bride's arrival.)


from the C of E website:
https://www.yourchurchwedding.org/ar...-your-wedding/

https://www.yourchurchwedding.org/ar...-your-wedding/

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Purrs

Usually it's a combination - 2 or 3 hymns and other music at other points (usually classical) - bride's entrance, signing the register, leaving the church. (I've also heard it when guests are entering, prior to the bride's arrival.)


from the C of E website:
https://www.yourchurchwedding.org/ar...-your-wedding/

https://www.yourchurchwedding.org/ar...-your-wedding/

Ok, when I mentioned W&K’s wedding music, I was not including music played before the bride’s entrance , but only music played during the actual service.

[CyrilVladisla]

I just came across the link to the Order of Service:
https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/f...of_service.pdf
I read the exchange of vows. Prince Henry is referred to as Harry in the vows. What happened to formality?

[JR76]

Originally Posted by PtahHotep

That sounds too imitative of the first Obama inauguration. Meghan will want nothing to sound remind people of some other event, I have realized. And AFAIK, Beyoncé has not been invited. Who will sing it if it is to be sung?

Well if I was getting married I'd have Jane Mcdonald perform but I find that very unlikely here

[PtahHotep]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

It will still be more formal than CP and Sofia’s wedding music, which was all pop music or traditional Lutheran hymns. Harry and Meghan’s wedding will also include a good deal of classical music, which, correct me if I am wrong, is not reallly common in Anglican services. William and Kate’s wedding music for example was mostly Anglican hymns and psalms ( ie liturgical music) or fanfares and patriotic hymns. I don’t remember classical pieces in their wedding.

For the British RF, I suppose Harry and Meghan’s wedding is as modern as it can get, and there will be pop elements with Stand by Me and This Little Light of Mine for example.

Since they are going to play classical, I assume they have room in there for Mendelssohn's Wedding March from A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM (played at most weddings) and/or Wagner's "Here Comes The Bride" from LOHENGRIN (also played at most weddings.)?

Just asking.

Will go to bed in a little bit and wake up early. Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mbruno]

Just before I go to bed too, will Meghan sing God Save the Queen ? Of course she will, as it would be unacceptable if she didn’t , but I can’t help thinking that, as an American, it will feel awkward/ odd for her.

[PtahHotep]

Patrick J. Adams captioned this picture "The Last Supper"----as in, before the wedding.

With most of the "crew" with Meghan in Windsor except Gabriel Macht and Jacinda Barrett:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi78A8cl...n-by=halfadams

He also wrote this beautiful post on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/halfadams/status/997616073984892928

Awesome guy.

[Gawin]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

Just before I go to bed too, will Meghan sing God Save the Queen ? Of course she will, as it would be unacceptable if she didn’t , but I can’t help thinking that, as an American, it will feel awkward/ odd for her.

The Queen will be her grandmother-in-law. I don't think it will feel awkward/odd for her at all.