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Old 05-18-2018, 12:17 AM
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And HMQ with Guy next to her? What would the dorgies say!!!
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:23 AM
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Not necessarily, we would still see it as she walks up the stairs. It's actually less distracting this way and just the two of them without all the other guests there. And we can see it before as it'll be brighter than inside the chapel.
I am leaning this way too...
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:25 AM
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Not necessarily, we would still see it as she walks up the stairs. It's actually less distracting this way and just the two of them without all the other guests there. And we can see it before as it'll be brighter than inside the chapel.
It still isn’t the same and not something I can see being a consideration in this wedding which I am thankful for.
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:32 AM
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It still isn’t the same and not something I can see being a consideration in this wedding which I am thankful for.
Why wouldn't it be a consideration at this point? None of the other options presented are any less of a break with tradition. And given how much of a team these two have presented, it's quite fitting that they would face this together.
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:35 AM
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It still isn’t the same and not something I can see being a consideration in this wedding which I am thankful for.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility but I don't want to see it. LOL The bride walking up the aisle to her groom is the one tradition I want to remain.
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:46 AM
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yes if they are going to ditch all traditions I wish theyd go away and get married on a beach and disappear from public view....
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:47 AM
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Two weeks ago, I was taking bets on whether Philip would be able to make it down the aisle with the Queen or have to come in through the side entrance, like the Queen Mother and Princess Margaret did for Edward's wedding. Margaret was in a wheelchair at the time.

How things have changed this week! I'd be happy either way if Doria or Charles walked Meghan down the aisle. I really don't like the idea of someone "giving the bride away," but that is a long aisle and there will be lots of eyeballs focused on her. It would really help to have someone's support on the way to the altar.
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:54 AM
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Why wouldn't it be a consideration at this point? None of the other options presented are any less of a break with tradition. And given how much of a team these two have presented, it's quite fitting that they would face this together.
Because this is the BRF and although there are last minute adjustments to tradition that must be made to accommodate Mr. Markle not being able to walk his daughter down the aisle as planned, that doesnt change the tradition of the bride walking down the aisle to meet her future husband. That is traditional, it is expected by the millions of viewers and it will be done that way regardless of whether it is PC or her mother.
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:58 AM
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Plus, I think it lessens the moment they exit the chapel as husband and wife. I don't like the idea at all.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:01 AM
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yes if they are going to ditch all traditions I wish theyd go away and get married on a beach and disappear from public view....
That's hardly ditching all traditions. And obviously, this one wasn't planned. No matter how it goes at this point, it won't be traditional.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:17 AM
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Plus, I think it lessens the moment they exit the chapel as husband and wife. I don't like the idea at all.
Exactly. I think people are getting out of hand with this “modern” spin and not considering that this is a last minute glitch which will be dealt with the least amount of disruption to the overall service. There is a lot we don’t see behind the scenes which will need to be adjusted and considered with her father not being there.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:25 AM
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a. Doria Ragland
b. The Prince of Wales
c. No one. Meghan will walk alone
d. Someone else (please say who)
e. wild card - M&H walk down the aisle together
a > e > b, I want Doria to escort Meghan as I think it'll be very special for Meghan, from the one who fully support and love her since her birth to another one who also will fully support and love her, hopefully, till her death, but I think all three are nice choices.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:52 AM
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It seems more important she has someone she trusts to hold her hand, then some Vain concern the mother's dress is too bright.
No need to accuse me of being vain. I’m not clear on which of my comments you are labeling as ‘vain’ since the word means having an overly high regard for your own appearance and has no application to an opinion of someone else’s appearance.
The only thing I said about my own appearance was that if I were walking some one down the aisle I would choose to dress more soberly so as not to detract from the bride, which is the opposite of vain, IMO.
BBC ran a replay of William and Catherine’s wedding and it was visually stunning, it would have been less so in my eyes if Carole, wearing her very elegant mother of the bride attire complete with hat, had walked Catherine down the aisle.
We are agreed that the most important thing is that Meghan have support, my thought is that Charles, with his impeccable manners, charm and experience with ceremonial as well as religious occasions is not a bad choice given the current situation. Doria has no experience with a traditional English wedding, let alone a Royal one, it seems like a lot to ask of her - although it was being asked of Meghan’s father.
We obviously disagree, and that’s ok, but there’s no need to resort to petty name calling to explain the reasons we disagree.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:54 AM
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Since we have at times discussed the incredible negativity vibe this wedding brings out in a lot of people (especially two people we all know about)-------I think it only fair to link this as an example of the inexplicable hatred:

Glad she has the gift of telepathy to know what Meghan is thinking and feeling. Meanwhile, what is wrong with some folks that they want this wedding to be ruined?

It's not just most of the Markles.

Is there envy here or what? Racism? Jealousy?

Why can't they just be glad something wonderful is happening?

I don't understand people sometimes. Anyway, going to bed. Good night, folks.
Is t possible that some of us are just over and done with this wedding and the drama, the falling into soap opera nonesence not even seen in the War of Wales’s” is turning people away and making them dislike Meghan- as she’s is the connecting factor, and at this point she dowsn’t have enough credit with British public to win their, already thinking, grace?
That some of us simply do not feel Meghan has what It takes to make it in the long run as a working royal and so this drama is tiring to watch.
I am not a royal watcher, I just like Harry I think he’s a fine man, but at this point? I’m gonna be shocked if the reason for this marriage breakdown won’t be the amount of drama following her. A marriage, even the strongest one, can only sustain so much outside drama before cracks in the relationship appear.




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I just thought of something--------

Maybe Ashleigh, her niece? A successful lawyer who has lived apart from Samantha and is the inspiration for Rachel on SUITS.

Would send a statement----but I think it would look too "gimmicky." Plus, I don't think her or Christopher her brother are coming.
I am so baffled by this, how on earth is she the inspiration for the character? Does she know the creators in some way?
Otherwise what a farfetch idea.
And absolutely no to her or Charles and certainly not Philip (who just had a surgery! And probably only met her a handful of times) or heaven forbid any of her suits co stars (then again we are already teaching soap opera level with this entire thing, so hey why not go all the way in) I have been on the “walk alone” side since the get go. It may salvage whatever little like and respect I still have for ms. Markle. No best to go the least drama option.



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And HMQ with Guy next to her? What would the dorgies say!!!
Is that her majesty in the car? Doesn’t look like it.
And sadly Dorgis can’t say anything anymore, i believe the last of her majesty beloved dogs passed away a few weeks ago.





Going back to lurking mood.
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:00 AM
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No need to accuse me of being vain. I’m not clear on which of my comments you are labeling as ‘vain’ since the word means having an overly high regard for your own appearance and has no application to an opinion of someone else’s appearance.
The only thing I said about my own appearance was that if I were walking some one down the aisle I would choose to dress more soberly so as not to detract from the bride, which is the opposite of vain, IMO.
BBC ran a replay of William and Catherine’s wedding and it was visually stunning, it would have been less so in my eyes if Carole, wearing her very elegant mother of the bride attire complete with hat, had walked Catherine down the aisle.
We are agreed that the most important thing is that Meghan have support, my thought is that Charles, with his impeccable manners, charm and experience with ceremonial as well as religious occasions is not a bad choice given the current situation. Doria has no experience with a traditional English wedding, let alone a Royal one, it seems like a lot to ask of her - although it was being asked of Meghan’s father.
We obviously disagree, and that’s ok, but there’s no need to resort to petty name calling to explain the reasons we disagree.
I never called you vain, so don't try and make me out to be insulting you.

I said focussing on appearance was vain. The concept was vain. Not you. Vanity means a focus on appearance as being the most important thing. Your post implied that the reason not to have the MOB give her away was because it wasn't good appearance wise. That it took away from the bride. To me that concept, let me repeat the concept not you, is vain.

The importance here is on Meghan and who can offer her moral support. Not on appearances.

Giving the bride away is not a British thing. Its not something that requires you to have English blood or royal etiquette. Charles will not be any more adept at giving a bride away then anyone else. He has never given one away at a british royal wedding before. Michael had never been involved in a royal wedding, nor had Sophie, Autumn or even Diana's fathers, but they handled it well. Autumn's father is Canadian.

Meghan doesn't need someone who knows English etiquette. She needs someone who can calm her nerves and give her that last minute courage. Who ever she chooses to give her that strength, is her choice.
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:02 AM
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Two weeks ago, I was taking bets on whether Philip would be able to make it down the aisle with the Queen or have to come in through the side entrance, like the Queen Mother and Princess Margaret did for Edward's wedding.
I've actually been wondering if the Queen will be the one to need the side entrance. I haven't heard anything about a railing being put in (like at St. Paul's for whatever event that was).

At Charles and Camilla's blessing, I think the whole family except Charles and Camilla came in through the side.
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:06 AM
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Is t possible that some of us are just over and done with this wedding and the drama, the falling into soap opera nonesence not even seen in the War of Wales’s” is turning people away and making them dislike Meghan- as she’s is the connecting factor, and at this point she dowsn’t have enough credit with British public to win their, already thinking, grace?
That some of us simply do not feel Meghan has what It takes to make it in the long run as a working royal and so this drama is tiring to watch.
I am not a royal watcher, I just like Harry I think he’s a fine man, but at this point? I’m gonna be shocked if the reason for this marriage breakdown won’t be the amount of drama following her. A marriage, even the strongest one, can only sustain so much outside drama before cracks in the relationship appear.






I am so baffled by this, how on earth is she the inspiration for the character? Does she know the creators in some way?
Otherwise what a farfetch idea.
And absolutely no to her or Charles and certainly not Philip (who just had a surgery! And probably only met her a handful of times) or heaven forbid any of her suits co stars (then again we are already teaching soap opera level with this entire thing, so hey why not go all the way in) I have been on the “walk alone” side since the get go. It may salvage whatever little like and respect I still have for ms. Markle. No best to go the least drama option.





Is that her majesty in the car? Doesn’t look like it.
And sadly Dorgis can’t say anything anymore, i believe the last of her majesty beloved dogs passed away a few weeks ago.





Going back to lurking mood.
I am tired of the drama and have tuned out the attention seeking relatives but I certainly don't blame Meghan or think it reflects on her. I am still looking forward to the wedding and hope she and Harry have a long and happy life together.

The Queen's last corgi died, not her last dorgi. She still has a couple of them.
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:41 AM
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OK. For what its worth, for Meghan's supporter walking down the aisle towards Harry, perhaps she should have with her someone that's been by her side even to the point of moving across the pond with her, has totally bonded with Harry and is already part of their family. Of course I'm talking about Guy. That will never happen in a million of years though.

I do think we're going to end up seeing Doria walk her daughter down the aisle on Saturday. Its occurred to me too that it might be something that really causes Doria a lot of anxiety to do this in front of millions of people so that's why I suggest that it be both Doria and Charles that walk her. Someone dear to her throughout her life in her mother and someone showing that she'll always have someone from her new family to support her. The best of both worlds so to speak.

I have to agree too that one of the things I'm most looking forward to seeing is the expression on Harry's face when he first sees his bride on Saturday. I'm also willing to bet my last warm and soft cheese stuffed breadstick that if I thought Victoria and Daniel's wedding was emotional, this wedding is going to top it.
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An aspect of this wedding ceremony is the symbolic notion of Meghan marrying not just Harry, but also marrying into the Royal Family. I don’t think it’d be appropriate for Charles to walk her down the aisle ‘cos up until the minute Meghan is married, she is not a member of his family. It’d make more sense if she was his god daughter or even a family friend.

Doria will walk her beloved daughter down the aisle and I am willing to bet on it even though I am not a gambling person ...My opinion and belief is that the honour of walking a daughter down the aisle on her wedding day should fall to a living ‘loving’ parent. And since Doria is available for her daughter and always has been then I don’t see an issue. But more importantly, Meghan and her mum obviously enjoy a very close relationship that hasn’t been broken or tainted at any point as far as I’m aware. Plus there is also the fact she went out of her way to ensure her mother gets to play a prominent role on her big day by riding with her to the venue of the wedding (a role usually reserved for fathers) This is testament to the deep bond they share.

Doria has shown she is considerate of her daughter’s position and hasn’t in any shape or form exploited their links/connection - which I am sure Meghan truly appreciates.

It will either be that option or a close personal friend. But it won’t be a member of the Royal Family, as nice as that gesture would be. I can guarantee it
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is it the general consensus that Markle Sr. had a change of heart after his first interview with TMZ but because of his operation ultimately could not attend anyways
The BBC news here is using the rather guarded phrase 'it's being reported' that Markle Sr has had a Heart procedure ....
Which looks VERY much as though they doubt the veracity of this deeply 'convenient' story...
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