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Whatever his motives, they make sense though. Even today, people watch videos on YouTube of royal weddings that took place 8O years ago like Queen Astrid’s or Queen Ingrid’s ( at least I do). If he walks Meghan down the aisle, Tom Sr.’s. Image will become a historic document .
History or not, what he has done to his daughter in the last few days, with or without bad intentions, shows that he doesn't deserve to walk her down the aisle. Even if this was a private wedding.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:07 PM
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If his health is as bad as he says, how in God’s name does he expect to survive a flight and the stress of the day itself?

No, he is playing games. The wording was extremely suspect including the “I will risk my health to be there” all of which is aimed at manipulating the public, press and Meghan.

This man Doesn’t care one dog about his daughter.
I am so disgusted. KP needs to come out and say her mother is walking her down the aisle and that is it. Meghan needs to realize this drama with her dad is overshadowing all of her hard work and let go.
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I still find it really weird that we really heard nothing from Meghan's dad over the past 2 years but yesterday the floodgates were opened. Something here does not make sense.
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I still find it really weird that we really heard nothing from Meghan's dad over the past 2 years but yesterday the floodgates were opened. Something here does not make sense.
It is very odd. I would actually believe him having a panic attack more than heart attack. Chest pain can be one of the symptoms, and it certainly can feel like a heart attack in some cases. And as someone who has had one in the past, it'd certainly explain the erratic behavior and the type of things he's been saying.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:19 PM
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wow - what a load of mess, for lack of a better word, meghan is having to deal with, only days before the big day. i wouldn't want to be in her shoes.

fair enough, she probably has more help than needed but dealing with all this emotionally and from a stress control perspective must be exhausting and no amount of logistical help can help with it.

moving onto more interesting things from a royalty watch perspective and away from tabloid stuff of meghan's dad and their relationship, when will a guest list of guests, particularly of foreign royalty, be released?
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:21 PM
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I still find it really weird that we really heard nothing from Meghan's dad over the past 2 years but yesterday the floodgates were opened. Something here does not make sense.


Agreed. It is very strange.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:21 PM
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If his health is as bad as he says, how in God’s name does he expect to survive a flight and the stress of the day itself?

No, he is playing games. The wording was extremely suspect including the “I will risk my health to be there” all of which is aimed at manipulating the public, press and Meghan.

This man Doesn’t care one dog about his daughter.
I am so disgusted. KP needs to come out and say her mother is walking her down the aisle and that is it. Meghan needs to realize this drama with her dad is overshadowing all of her hard work and let go.
He is playing games, definitely. I'll bet this isn't the first time he's let her down. I'll bet she had plenty of missed recitals, showing up late to pick her up from some event, etc., etc. He may truly love her...in his own way. The problem is it's a weird, warped way, and if he'll put her through all this drama now, it may be exponentially worse should he show up for the wedding.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:23 PM
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He is playing games, definitely. I'll bet this isn't the first time he's let her down. I'll bet she had plenty of missed recitals, showing up late to pick her up from some event, etc., etc. He may truly love her...in his own way. The problem is it's a weird, warped way, and if he'll put her through all this drama now, it may be exponentially worse should he show up for the wedding.
Yea. Unfortunately, there are parents like that out there. On their good days, the can be great parents, but on their bad days, they can be such a disappointment.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:27 PM
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Prince Harry can hardly have a very high opinion of a man who would put the Woman he loves through this NIGHTMARE during what should be the happiest and most exciting week of her life.
If the father of my love treated them in this way i'd detest him...
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:32 PM
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wow - what a load of mess, for lack of a better word, meghan is having to deal with, only days before the big day. i wouldn't want to be in her shoes.

fair enough, she probably has more help than needed but dealing with all this emotionally and from a stress control perspective must be exhausting and no amount of logistical help can help with it.

moving onto more interesting things from a royalty watch perspective and away from tabloid stuff of meghan's dad and their relationship, when will a guest list of guests, particularly of foreign royalty, be released?
Its already been announced that there will be no gaggle of foreign royals, politicians or diplomats at this wedding. Only royal I know of for sure that is going to be there is Prince Seeiso of Lesotho and his wife.

The rest of the lists such as the bridal party are probably being held off being made public because of there being private citizens and children of private citizens in the wedding party.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:32 PM
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This is so selfish. When Meghan should be relaxing and basking in the anticipation of her wedding with her loved ones around her, socialising, putting the final touches on her big day and just having a great, happy time, these people do this. She must be so worried and embarrassed and in a tizzy trying to fix things and communicate with her father and rearrange plans and think about his health. It's so very unfair.

Worst case scenario, Tom flies to the UK (how, I don't know) and gets another heart attack that's more serious and then the wedding has to be scaled down or postponed or some other horrendous thing. At this point, it's better he stays home. Being there isn't even about Meghan from the sounds of it...just about his ego and making history.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:36 PM
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I still find it really weird that we really heard nothing from Meghan's dad over the past 2 years but yesterday the floodgates were opened. Something here does not make sense.
This is also something that keeps tickling my mind. Is it possible that TMZ and the likes are getting Thomas Markle's words through someone they believe is his spokesperson? It just doesn't seem right that we hear he's maybe had a heart attack, he's feeling worse chest pains and maybe going to the hospital and then speaking with TMZ from his hospital bed. For a guy that is by character a reclusive person, this behavior just doesn't fit the image.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:40 PM
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Meghan Markle's father 'changes his mind and now wants to come to wedding if doctors let him | Daily Mail Online

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Mr Markle said: 'I hate the idea of missing one of the greatest moments in history and walking my daughter down the aisle.

'Of course I'd walk her down the aisle. This is a historic moment. I'd like to be a part of history.'
Wow sounds like a father who really loves his daughter...
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:45 PM
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This is also something that keeps tickling my mind. Is it possible that TMZ and the likes are getting Thomas Markle's words through someone they believe is his spokesperson? It just doesn't seem right that we hear he's maybe had a heart attack, he's feeling worse chest pains and maybe going to the hospital and then speaking with TMZ from his hospital bed. For a guy that is by character a reclusive person, this behavior just doesn't fit the image.
If this was just one conversation, I can buy that. But not at this point. He knows it's getting out there because his daughter has been trying to reach him.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:49 PM
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As I said, if he really just had a heart attack, he is in no condtion to take an 11 -hour intercontinental flight. No way it is going to happen.

Agreed and I cannot see any commercial airline wanting to transport him from the West Coast (San Diego or Los Angeles) to London considering his condition.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:51 PM
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Personally I think it's too late to a] mend fences, b] arrive in ANY 'fit state', c] attend rehearsals, d] 'bond' with the Groom, e] grovel to HMQ, [and especially to the DoE] and f] get a Morning Coat.

Far better if he stays in the seclusion he professes to crave [and stfu FOREVER].


Agree.

I find this mess exhausting; I can't imagine how Meghan feels.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:54 PM
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Okay, I'm not usually trying to think the worst about people, but this quote of Mr. Markle really irked me.

A part of history? Really? No "I want to support my daughter" or "I want to be with my daughter", just "I'd like to be a part of history". I'm trying to give him the benefit of a doubt, but right now it's just hard.

That said, I hope he recovers well and gets back to full health as soon as possible, that the Sunday will be a lovely, amazing day for everyone involved and Meghan will be as happy as she could be. Lord knows she deserves it. Huge, huge kudos to her for getting through all of the family drama.
I felt the same way when I read this. This is such a three ring circus at this point and he just is digging himself into a hole the more he keeps talking to the tabloid press. There is so much to this article that infuriates me, including the alleged heart attack and whether his doctors will allow him to travel. He claims he had a heart attack 6 days ago that “did so much damage” to his heart and yet he was out and about being photographed carrying a heavy pot and buying fast food. My father had a series of heart attacks before the final one took him, and in each case he required medical attention and care. There was no way he would be allowed to travel, run errands, carry heavy items, etc... I don’t believe a word out of his mouth at this point and really feel that he is seeking attention as much as his obnoxious older daughter “Samantha”.
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One thing I have found to be particularly odd...

... is that even before this week’s issues, no plan had been made for someone (ideally his diplomat brother) to accompany Mr. Markle on his trip and to provide companionship and support during his stay in the U.K.

Are we to assume that an elderly man with a very low-key lifestyle was going to fly alone on a 12 hour flight, not including home to airport and pre flight time, and then to spend several days in a hotel or other place without any companionship other than the few minutes his daughter could spare?

Sounds cruel and unusual to me. I don’t believe he ever intended/was intended to come.
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This is a ridiculous amount of pre-wedding drama that Harry and Meghan do not deserve.
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Please note that several posts containing rather more unrealistic suggestions as to how to resolve the situation have been deleted as have those speculating on what other members of the Royal Family might feel about.
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