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Old 05-14-2018, 04:12 PM
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Pure selfishness on Tom Sr’s part. He’s ashamed and embarrassed about his actions. Ooookkkkayyy, but why burden Meghan further by leaving her to face the BRF alone, while he nurses his ego in Mexico? Be a man and face them. Apologize and be there for your daughter!
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:18 PM
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I agree that its not hard to live a normal life when you have photographers following you and your lifebeing dissected in the press and people behind the keyboard.

But again...this is 2019 and not 1981 or 1997 and we aren't talking about totally naive people here. While they are not used to the British press they are aware of how the US press acts. And they can see (and have witnessed) how social media. After all the stuff that happened when Meghan started dating how could they have not seen it. It's why Sam has changed her twitter handle. Its why Tom Jr has said the press interest has been intense after his arrest.

When you burn yourself on the pot, you say ouch and don't touch the pot again. These people have touched it over and over again.

I just can't believe that Tom Sr. bailed out on his daughter and didn't have the audacity to tell her. I always thought he had debilitating shyness or maybe agoraphobic and that would be the reason he wouldn't walk down the aisle. Not that he would be embarrassed because he arranged some pap photos. Why didnt' he do this weeks ago. why do it the week of her wedding. why (if its true) listen to Sam..who has always shown herself to be looking out for her younger sibling?
All of this. Thomas worked in Hollywood for years and has a daughter that was a successful actress, so he knows how the paps and the media work. Notice that Doria was able to handle the media without selling photos, or giving interviews. Thomas allowed KP to put out a statement asking for his privacy, yet he was out here working with the paps.

And it's extremely messed up that he waited a few days before the wedding, to announce that he's going. It's not only hurtful, but extremely selfish. On top of that, he didn't even have the decency to tell his daughter before he told the media. Just terrible.
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:23 PM
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Thomas worked in Hollywood for years and has a daughter that was a successful actress, so he knows how the paps and the media work.
A Man that won, and accepted Emmy's for his work in Hollywood.. he isn't a publicity 'novice' by ANY means...
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:25 PM
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Exactly...I will give you that social media and the paparazzi craze isnt' the same as it was 10 years ago but you only have to have watched (or lived it) what has been going on in the last six months to establish some clear boundaries. And not talking to the press is one of them.
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:38 PM
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I think that is easier said than done, when reporters and photographers are following you around and you aren't used to it. Especially when you are alone and not experiencing it as a family--at least the Middletons had each other.

I am only referring to her father here--not any of the other Markles who all seem to want to be famous.

The photos were dumb but I was willing to give him a pass on them--cancelling going to the wedding at the last minute because of them is rude. Unless he really couldn't face all the attention and pulled a stupid stunt hoping to be disinivited.
Its one thing to cancel but then to lie about a heart attack that is being LOW! he was on the road to LA dropping off flowers at the mothers home in front of the paps. Its just a bid for sympathy.

That entire family is the worst, starting with the Uncle who sold his location.
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:39 PM
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He would of been so proud to have been at the Wedding, just seems such a shame. I wonder if he ever feels alone and isolated in Mexico, and whether he will get much chance to see his daughter. I think all the stress has not helped, and may have contributed to a heart attack.

Poor man, I feel really sorry for him. Wish Meghan would take a flight to Mexico, and give her father a great big hug!! He didn't stand a chance; it was a perfect and vicious sting!! No matter he made a mistake, but now the press have ruined his chance of attending his daughter's wedding by making him feel worthless. Shame on them!
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:57 PM
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A @KensingtonRoyal spokesman said of reports Thomas Markle won’t attend: "This is a deeply personal moment for Ms. Markle in the days before her wedding. She and Prince Harry ask again for understanding and respect to be extended to Mr. Markle in this difficult situation."

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Old 05-14-2018, 04:59 PM
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Never ever before I had the strong wish that a wedding will be soon over. My anticipation was every day increasing. But now its so much negativity around the wedding (created by Meghans half-siblings) and I have to say that it is enough for me. I just wish that Saturday come quick and the wedding is over.

Thomas jr, and Samantha: You had done a great job with all the mad stuff you told the media. I guess you have arrived many many royal fans with all this sh... and destroyed a very good mood that surrounds a "normal" royal wedding.
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:59 PM
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And there we have it. Official statement from KP. I can't begin to fathom what Meghan must be going through right now. I'm just glad that she's got the strong and loving support of Harry throughout all of this.
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:02 PM
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And there we have it. Official statement from KP. I can't begin to fathom what Meghan must be going through right now. I'm just glad that she's got the strong and loving support of Harry throughout all of this.
Yes. Thank goodness she does have him and Doria.
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:04 PM
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I did find this tweet quite amusing: https://twitter.com/jamesbrookes_/st...98505759494144
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:04 PM
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That is horrible news and casts a shadow over what should be otherwise a happy occasion.
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:04 PM
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You don't have to be at the ceremony to receive your emmy. Just sayin'.
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:07 PM
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And her friends...now it makes sense why she is so close to her friends.
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:08 PM
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If her father is not going then I suspect its his choice, from a PR point of view it is a nightmare and I'm sure KP would rather he attended as planned- the excitement of the day itself taking away the sting in the posing for photos and then it would not have mattered if we never saw or heard from her father again. The wedding would have gone as planned, the good will form it would have papered over some of the damage done by Meghan's father and people would have said - well he is her father and if she wants him there...

I guess from KPs point of view things aren't helped by Meghan not having the most straight forward of relationships with members of her family, that inevitably makes it harder for them to help the soon to be "in-law" family. They seemed to do a much better job with the Middleton's and I suspect that was because W&K were together so long but also because Kate was so close to her family.

I have to say in many ways I will be quite glad once the wedding is here and done, its quite a drama at the moment!
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:11 PM
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If the story is true, Mr Markle did the decent thing by cancelling. He has sold his daughter out for money by posing for those paparazzi pictures and is a colossal embarrassment to her and to himself. How awful for the couple having to deal with such things so shortly before the wedding.

I am very surprised the palace did not sort this thing out. The press attention must be confusing for the family and they could have used some preparation and instructions perhaps.

In the Anglican church the bride is always escorted down the aisle by her father? Or does she sometimes arrive with the groom, as is the custom in a few other protestant churches.

I don't think the bride ever arrives with the groom, because, symbolically, she is leaving one family (her father's) to join another (the groom's family). In fact, the traditional Anglican liturgy still includes the father "giving away this woman to marry this man". It is terribly old-fashioned, even more so than the Roman Catholic wedding liturgy, which, as you may have noticed from Felipe and Letizia's or Guillaume and Stéphanie's weddings , has been actually greatly modernized lately.
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:12 PM
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the strong wish that a wedding will be soon over.
No doubt the Bridal couple wish they had simply eloped to Gretna Green. and had done with it...
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:13 PM
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I don't feel sorry for him at this point. I did, but the whole photo staging thing changed that.
Not only that, but the staged flowers on Doria's porch pix was the deal breaker, I would imagine that Doria read him the riot act about that little stunt - she has done everything possible to avoid the press and there he is drawing attention to her - I'd be livid if my ex did something like that.
As a mother I'm sure that Doria is very angry that poor Meghan has been hit w/ this drama on the eve of her wedding and it wouldn't surprise me if Doria didn't give Thomas, Sr. a piece of her mind over the whole thing, I know I would have if it had been my child hurt by these antics.
The whole heart attack excuse, maybe, I imagine the stress has been huge and Mr. Markle, Sr. is in his 70s isn't he? On the other hand haven't we seen that maneuver from Sam - claiming some kind of illness to deflect responsibility for some bone headed action?
With most royal weddings the biggest suspense for me on the day of the wedding is which tiara will I see, not this wedding - now my question is who will walk Meghan down the aisle. I suppose the preference would be a male relative - are there any on Doria's side of the family to whom Meghan is close?
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:13 PM
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Well, to be fair...in the movie (Harry & Meaghan: A Royal Romance) she did warn him about her family!

On a more serious note...this will be a blimp on the radar. Yes, of course we will discuss this ad nauseam about the father not going, the late notice of his attenance, who will talk down the aisle, but this will not overshadow the wedding IMO.

Once Saturday arrives...its about Harry and Meghan and no one else. Thomas Sr., had a choice to be a part of his daughter's wedding and walk her down the aisle. Now, I don't know its the "heart attack," nerves or embarrassment or whatever...I do know that parents do a lot for their children and often make sacrifices. If he is embarassed than he should have sucked it up, put on his pants and walked his daughter down the aisle. And if he couldnt', than he should have called her personally to tell her.

So this says more about him than her. But whatever. He will have to live with regrets for the rest of his life. Not his daughter.

At the end of the day, all you need is the bride, the groom and the Reverend. Oh, and the Queen!
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:18 PM
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Wait, is the heart attack story true or not after all ? I'm confused now.
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