Harry and Meghan: Wedding Suggestions and Musings

[FashionMaven]

Originally Posted by TLLK

Thrilled to see our state flower on this beautifully crafted document.

I just noticed the poppies!!!! Wow - this is really happening you guys!!!

[Humbugged]

Originally Posted by TLLK

Thrilled to see our state flower on this beautifully crafted document.

With an American Rose not the same one as Harry at the top .And with the olive branch from the left side of the Great Seal of the US (and mirrored on the other side).


It also has the Spencer part of Harry's half way up

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by kathia_sophia

Sorry, I don't know much about military uniforms, but can someone kind here show me pictures of the possibilities Harry might wear on his wedding day? That way, when I see the wedding on TV I would know which one he wears.

This is the captain of the royal marines (well Philip in it)
https://twitter.com/majgenrmagowan/s...04587445043200

Harry in his blues and royals
https://sabrinariawijaya.files.wordp...-300.jpg?w=480

[jacqui24]

I don’t understand the logic behind thinking Harry will wear a uniform from a post that he’s retired from rather than a regiment he currently serves as Captain General. Not wearing his Blue and Royal uniform wouldn’t mean he’s any less proud of the time he’s served in the military.

[FashionMaven]

Originally Posted by jacqui24

I don’t understand the logic behind thinking Harry will wear a uniform from a post that he’s retired from rather than a regiment he currently serves as Captain General. Not wearing his Blue and Royal uniform wouldn’t mean he’s any less proud of the time he’s served in the military.

What does this mean? Sorry - I'm confused about who and what Harry is now from a military perspective.

Does this mean neither of the options posted are viable for Harry to wear?

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by FashionMaven

What does this mean? Sorry - I'm confused about who and what Harry is now from a military perspective.

Does this mean neither of the options posted are viable for Harry to wear?

I think Jacqui meant since Harry is retired from the Army it might make more sense for Harry to wear the uniform for the Marines, for which he is currently the honorary head. And that even if he wears the Marines uniform, it doesn't mean he is not proud of his service in the Army.

[Pranter]

Originally Posted by FashionMaven

What does this mean? Sorry - I'm confused about who and what Harry is now from a military perspective.

Does this mean neither of the options posted are viable for Harry to wear?

Harry could wear either uniform. Most folks think he will wear his most recent and highest ranking uniform. He has taken over the position from the Duke of Edinburgh, honorary position but still wears the uniform.


LaRae

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

I think Jacqui meant since Harry is retired from the Army it might make more sense for Harry to wear the uniform for the Marines, for which he is currently the honorary head. And that even if he wears the Marines uniform, it doesn't mean he is not proud of his service in the Army.

THATS exactly what I meant. You just expressed it more clearly than I did.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Pranter

Harry could wear either uniform. Most folks think he will wear his most recent and highest ranking uniform. He has taken over the position from the Duke of Edinburgh, honorary position but still wears the uniform.


LaRae

One question remains, however: will he shave his beard ?

[Terri Terri]

Hope he keeps the beard. Its makes him look more serious and mature! He just has to get it groomed and shaped up properly.

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by jacqui24

I don’t understand the logic behind thinking Harry will wear a uniform from a post that he’s retired from rather than a regiment he currently serves as Captain General. Not wearing his Blue and Royal uniform wouldn’t mean he’s any less proud of the time he’s served in the military.

Royals tend to continue to hold a rank even when they 'retire' from active duty. Charles hadn't served in the navy since 1976, but wore the uniform to his wedding, even though he had higher honorary positions.

But I do think he will wear the marines most likely. Like William, its not just a matter of highest rank, but he has been newly appointed. While Charles had higher ranks, he had held them for over 5 years.

And no, it isn't saying he doesn't honor the Blues and royals any more. Any more then William wearing the Irish guards, meant he didn't honor the RAF or the household calvary. And unlike Harry, William was active duty RAF (not retired like Harry) when he married. He was until 2013.

[Pranter]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

One question remains, however: will he shave his beard ?

No. You don't wait till this close to the day, he'd have a 2 tone face color if he did it at this point.




LaRae

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Pranter

No. You don't wait till this close to the day, he'd have a 2 tone face color if he did it at this point.




LaRae

So will he be in violation of current regulations regarding facial hair for active duty military personnel in uniform ? A bad example for a captain general if that is the case.

[JuliannaVictoria]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

So will he be in violation of current regulations regarding facial hair for active duty military personnel in uniform ? A bad example for a captain general if that is the case.

From my reading earlier, some armed forces personnel are allowed facial hair in uniform. I had this same discussion earlier upthread.

Actually, this is what was quoted to me earlier.

Since that time, the British Army, Royal Air Force, and Royal Marines have allowed moustaches and connected side whiskers only. Exceptions are beards grown for medical reasons, such as temporary skin irritations, or for religious reasons (usually by Sikhs or Muslims), although in the event of conflict in which the use of chemical or biological weapons is likely, they may be required to shave a strip around the seal of a respirator. Infantry pioneer warrant officers, colour sergeants and sergeants also traditionally wear and are permitted to wear beards; although not compulsory, most do wear them. In some Scottish infantry regiments, it is either permitted or expected, by regimental tradition, for the drum major, pipe major, and/or commanding officer's piper to wear a beard. Beards are also permitted to special forces when on covert intelligence operations or behind enemy lines.
More recently, the British Army has been seen sporting a full range of stubble, moustaches and beards in Afghanistan in an effort to blend in with the generally bearded Afghan men, for whom a beard is seen as a sign of virility and authority.[citation needed]
The Royal Navy has always allowed beards, but never moustaches alone, and since at least the early 20th century has permitted its members to wear only a "full set" (i.e. a full beard and moustache). A beard or moustache may not be worn without the other and the beard must be full (i.e. cover the whole jawline) and joined to the moustache. If, after a period without shaving, it becomes clear that the individual cannot grow a proper full set, his commanding officer may order him to shave it off.

[Pranter]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

So will he be in violation of current regulations regarding facial hair for active duty military personnel in uniform ? A bad example for a captain general if that is the case.

No actually he won't...as posted earlier in the thread. Couple pages ago.





LaRae

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Pranter

No actually he won't...as posted earlier in the thread. Couple pages ago.





LaRae

I'm confused. According to the quote above, the Royal Marines only allow moustaches and whiskers, but not full beards. The Afghan exemption clearly doesn't apply in this case. So it seems that he would be in violation of current regulations if he wore a Royal Marines uniform and didn't shave.

[Pranter]

Perhaps it has to do with his status as a honorary Captain of the Marines.


LaRae

[Countessmeout]

The mirror reported when he got criticized for the beard last year, that they spoke to the department of defense. They were told that because he is no longer active duty, considered a veteran, it is acceptable for him to have a beard.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

The mirror reported when he got criticized for the beard last year, that they spoke to the department of defense. They were told that because he is no longer active duty, considered a veteran, it is acceptable for him to have a beard.

That whole drama has always struck me as odd since it's not the first Remembrance Day event he's been to where he had a beard and worn his uniform. He did for the previous years' exact event, and yet nothing then.

[Pranter]

It's obvious to me it's fine or the Queen would of said..get rid of it. The DoE would of said get rid of it before he stepped down and turned his role over to Harry.


LaRae