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Old 11-29-2017, 07:57 PM
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This may really be a suggestion from way out in left field in a galaxy far, far away but considering all the discussion lately about being Christian, wouldn't it be a big and wonderful thing for Meghan to actually ask her step sister, Samantha, to be a part of the bridal party. Wheelchair and all.

With the emphasis that the Royal Foundation has been putting on acceptance of differences, what better way than to show a prime example of how forgiveness and understanding and compassion really work in day to day life.

Told you it was off the wall and 99.5% sure it won't happen.
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Even if they would go for 4 children each, Harry might choose two of his (5-6) godchildren instead of second cousins (once removed) in addition to his nephew and niece.

What second cousins once removed from Harry are you referring to?

If you mean Mia, Savannah and Isla--they are Harry's first cousins once removed as their parents (Zara, Peter) are Harry's first cousins.

They could go mostly with adult attendants and only a few children or a number of children. It's hard to say. As for which children, that also depends on whether their parents think their kid could handle it.
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This may really be a suggestion from way out in left field in a galaxy far, far away but considering all the discussion lately about being Christian, wouldn't it be a big and wonderful thing for Meghan to actually ask her step sister, Samantha, to be a part of the bridal party. Wheelchair and all.

With the emphasis that the Royal Foundation has been putting on acceptance of differences, what better way than to show a prime example of how forgiveness and understanding and compassion really work in day to day life.

Told you it was off the wall and 99.5% sure it won't happen.
The short answer? No.

I don't think it will happen. Has nothing to do with acceptance or being Christian. I quite simply don't believe that she has never said those things at the beginning of the relationship and she continues to profit off of Meghan. Emily Andrews was on Twitter being very adamant that they have it on tape. She gets things wrong sometimes, but she's not the type to go on record and say something like this if she knows it's a lie. There is something to be said about protecting yourself. Besides, she wasn't at Meghan's 2011 wedding, I don't see why she would be invited to this one.
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Old 11-29-2017, 08:15 PM
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What second cousins once removed from Harry are you referring to?

If you mean Mia, Savannah and Isla--they are Harry's first cousins once removed as their parents (Zara, Peter) are Harry's first cousins.

They could go mostly with adult attendants and only a few children or a number of children. It's hard to say. As for which children, that also depends on whether their parents think their kid could handle it.
You are right; I was both thinking of second cousins (William asked Margarita for example) and indeed the 'first cousins once removed' (Savannah, Isla, Mia); George's classmate Maud could be another second cousin (but without the once removed ).
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You are right; I was both thinking of second cousins (William asked Margarita for example) and indeed the 'first cousins once removed' (Savannah, Isla, Mia); George's classmate Maud could be another second cousin (but without the once removed ).
I think Maude is actually Harry's 3rd cousin.

King George VI & Prince George, Duke of Kent, brothers

Queen Elizabeth & Prince Michael of Kent, first cousins

Princes Charles & Lord Frederick Windsor, second cousins

Prince Harry & Miss Maude Windsor, third cousins

It is really confusing unless it is all mapped out--especially when the ages of the generations don't match.

Maude would be so cute with her red hair!
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:02 AM
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William and Kate had 6 attendants at their wedding - one of William's cousins (Louise), one second cousin (Margarita Armstrong-Jones), one of Camilla's grandchildren (Eliza Lopes), two of William's godchildren (Grace van Cutsem and Tom Pettifer), and one child of someone close to the couple (William Lowther-Pinkerton). The eldest was 10, the youngest was 3.

It seems likely that George and Charlotte will be attendants, and just based on age the Phillips girls or Mia Tindall might be chosen (1 of the three of them, not all). William and Harry don't seem particularly close to Charles Spencer, so I wouldn't expect one of his younger children to be an attendant, but it does seem like both William and Harry are close with their maternal aunts, so it's possible that they could go with one of either Sarah or Jane's grandchildren (Sarah's eldest grandchild was born in 2014, Jane's eldest in 2015).

Camilla's grandchildren range in age from 10 to 7. So, on the older side but within the same range as William and Kate's attendants. It would be nice to see one of Camilla's grandchildren be an attendant.

Harry has 2 godchildren, Fred Pettifer (16) and Jasper Galloway Dyer (5). Fred's too old, but Jasper's in that age range.

For Megan's friends... it seems like Meghan is very close with Benita Litt's children, although I don't know how old they are. Meghan's co-stars Sarah Rafferty and Gabriel Macht both have younger children. And, of course, Brian and Jessica Mulroney's children are all within that 10 - 3 age range.
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:29 AM
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I wouldn't be expecting, or I hope, a heavy Windsor contingent of bridal party. Unlike Kate who didn't seem to get a single bridal party member other then Pippa, Meghan has friends and family with kids.

Other then George and Charlotte I am not sure we will see any Windsors or Spencers involved.

Meghan seems extremely close to her 'fairy goddaughters' and to Ivy Mulroney. I wouldn't be surprised if 2 if not all 3 were involved.

I see there being the same as Cambridge, 2 page and 4 bridesmaids. And either even half and half, or at least Meghan getting 2.

Something like:

Page boys:
-George
-Jasper Dyer


Bridesmaids
-Charlotte
-Ivy Mulroney https://cdn.torontolife.com/wp-conte...-c-default.jpg
-one of her fairy goddaughters https://www.instagram.com/p/BNVh5BVg...y=meghanmarkle


The fourth, if they choose to even it out, Meghan could use both goddaughters. Or I believe her cousin has kids. If not, then Harry may choose one of Peter's daughters (they seem of age close to Meghan's goddaughters, then Mia is so better pair with her).
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:44 AM
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I remember hearing that WA wasn't William's preferred venue at the time and I have to admit I was hugely disappointed with WA for their wedding because it somehow gloomed over the top of everyone and even the addition of full-grown trees did little to help.

At that time William was still very shy and a little awkward being in front of a lot of people and I think you have to be a bit larger than life to pull it off. Perhaps it was that Catherine's train was not as big as it could have been that made them look sort of lost standing in front. I don't really know, but I remember thinking that it was possibly also the way the Abbey is laid out. Cosy it is not!
What i didn't like at William and Kate's Wedding was that only the bridal Couple was seating/standing before the High Altar and their Families seating down the stairs. At all earlier Royal Wedding the Families of the bridal Couples where seating on the left and right side of the High Altar and those it looked more familiar.
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Many of have probably seen it but here is a couple of youtube-links to remind ourselves of Edward and Sophie's lovely wedding at St George's Chapel on 19:th June 1999.

Windsor can host large crowds. If they use the whole long walk for crowds too they can host many thousands more people to this wedding, should it be neccesary




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Old 11-30-2017, 03:47 AM
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They are going to have to get really creative with this. Victoria Arbiter, who is a royal commentator and Dickie Arbiter's daughter, is expressing concerns over how they are going to accommodate all the media. She lives in New York, so she does more US show about BRF than British shows. She was hugely supportive of St. George's Chapel before the announcement and still is. However, today she's expressing that she's afraid someone in charge of logistics might be underestimating US interest. She did 32 interviews on Monday alone.

https://twitter.com/victoriaarbiter/...38037938343936
I definitely think it's a valid concern, not just with media interest but public as well. Although, I'm not sure I would say they are underestimating interest. Certainly, they have to know it will be great, especially with Meghan being American. Perhaps they believe they can work around the limitations. If so, lets hope they are right.
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Altho' i'm a fan of St George's as a venue, I do think that [given the level of public interest here and in America]
, vastly more well wishers are likely to attend than did for the Wessexes, and so the planners will need to 'think outside the box' and plan accordingly.

But they do have vast amounts of experience in big 'set-pieces', so i've every confidence in them..
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Old 11-30-2017, 06:30 AM
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In terms of guests, I wonder who we’ll see attending from foreign courts? Prince Andrew’s wedding had a large European royal presence whereas Prince Edward’s wedding only saw around 4 or 5. What do people think? Any predictions on attendees?
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Old 11-30-2017, 06:35 AM
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I would think that Prince Seeiso of Lesotho and his wife are almost a sure fire bet to be there. Seeiso and Harry founded Sentebale together.
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:18 AM
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In terms of guests, I wonder who we’ll see attending from foreign courts? Prince Andrew’s wedding had a large European royal presence whereas Prince Edward’s wedding only saw around 4 or 5. What do people think? Any predictions on attendees?
I don't think we'll see as many as Andrew's as we are past the scale of how they did things in 80s. However, I wouldn't be surprised if there were more than Edward's wedding. Keep in mind that Edward and Sophie purposely kept things lower keyed because they planned on largely remaining in their private jobs.

And it does seem that they plan on sending Harry out to more foreign trips on an official basis based on what's been going on this year and late last year.
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:21 AM
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I would imagine that more junior members of foreign royal families would be sent as representatives rather than any of the reigning monarchs and their wives. Perhaps Joachim & Marie from Denmark, Constantijn and Laurentien from the Netherlands, Felix and Claire from Luxembourg etc.
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:40 AM
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I think Maude is actually Harry's 3rd cousin.

King George VI & Prince George, Duke of Kent, brothers

Queen Elizabeth & Prince Michael of Kent, first cousins

Princes Charles & Lord Frederick Windsor, second cousins

Prince Harry & Miss Maude Windsor, third cousins

It is really confusing unless it is all mapped out--especially when the ages of the generations don't match.

Maude would be so cute with her red hair!
You're right again. For one moment I thought I found a second cousin once removed but realised that wasn't the case as Michael is a cousin of Elizabeth... but adjusted my initial mistake in the wrong direction
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:46 AM
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Harry has 2 godchildren, Fred Pettifer (16) and Jasper Galloway Dyer (5). Fred's too old, but Jasper's in that age range.
Harry himself said he has 5 or 6 godchildren. Fred and Jasper are the ones we know by name but he is the godfather of a few more of his friend's children!

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For Megan's friends... it seems like Meghan is very close with Benita Litt's children, although I don't know how old they are. Meghan's co-stars Sarah Rafferty and Gabriel Macht both have younger children. And, of course, Brian and Jessica Mulroney's children are all within that 10 - 3 age range.
Based on last year's christmas picture, Meghan's 'fairy godchildren' will probably be 6-8 years old in May?! Looked like they were either twins or very close in age.
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I wonder whether any members of the Greek Royal family will be guests, as they are close to Charles? Perhaps not King Constantine as he is in bad health, has limited mobility etc, but some of the others.
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I wonder whether any members of the Greek Royal family will be guests, as they are close to Charles? Perhaps not King Constantine as he is in bad health, has limited mobility etc, but some of the others.
Marie-Chantal, Crown Princess of Greece, did tweet out a congratulations to the couple.
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