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05-11-2018, 09:01 PM
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I wanted to stay out of the poll debate, however, something we have to take into consideration is "who says they will tune in" vs. "who actually tunes in". For example, about 53% of Britons said they were going to watch the royal wedding in 2011 according to Reuters and BBC. However, only about 40% actually tuned in.
Here are the numbers: According to BBC, 24.5 million Brits watched the wedding in 2011, compared to 33.5 million that was expected to tune in based on poll numbers.All this is to say, let's wait until after the wedding before we start to "rejoice" that Brits didn't tune into Harry and Meghan's wedding. Maybe less people will tune in, or maybe more will.
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The problem is the # of people polled vs the actual population.
While 53% of people polled said they would watch the royal wedding, not the entire population of the UK would have participated in the poll. It may have been 90% of the people who took the poll actually ended up watching, as we have no idea how many people in the UK actually participated. That is what I was getting at, when saying the polls don't really reflect how popular the wedding will be for watching.
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The two Litt girls are five and seven.
The Mulroney boys are eight.
So they could really go in pairs, the ages are close enough.
Not saying they will, but they could.
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I kept reading they are 5 but it seems they are actually 8 and 6. Ryland and Remi.
Yes, if they went with 8, the gender pairs would match up. Except Charlotte who at 3 is younger then all the others. Her brother would be the closest in age to Charlotte.
Ivy and George- 5
Remi Litt and Jasper Dyer- 6
Ryland Litt and Brian/John Mulroney-8
That leaves who do we pair Charlotte with. If they did pairs, perhaps not all 3 Mulroney kids would be used. Harry has six godchildren we are told. Perhaps one of them is a boy of a better age range.
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Charlotte and George- 3 and 5
Ivy and Japer- 5 and 6
Remi Lit and Brian Mulroney- 6 and 8
Rylan Lit and John Mulroney- 8
Or they find someone more age appropriate like Charlie Meade. Not sure how old Charlie is, but he looks around Mia's age. Charlie's dad and Uncle are both friends of Harry and William, as well as Zara.
Charlotte and Charlie: 3/4
Ivy and George: 5
Remi and Jasper: 6
Rylan and Mulroney boy: 8
The second option would likely work much better appearance wise.
But I still have a feeling we will see 4 bridesmaids, 2 page boys. With Ivy, Remy, Rylan and Charlotte for girls, and Jasper and George for boys.
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It only 'needed to be a holiday' because they wanted it that way. The thought was that a long weekend (wedding on Friday, bank holiday on Monday) would be appreciated by the people and add to the festive atmosphere they hoped to create for the wedding of the future king and queen.
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It needed to be a holiday because a wedding of that magnitude, on a weekday/workday in the middle of London was not practical. It could have been on the weekend, or on an actual bank holiday.
And many people didn't appreciate it. There was backlash about the cost on businesses, imposing another bank holiday on them on that weekend. That it did the opposite.
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05-11-2018, 09:09 PM
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Looky what I found!!!   Buried deep on the royal website under Royal Wedding Traditions, there is a topic "Wedding rings of Welsh gold"!! It would appear that this is confirmation that Prince Harry WILL wear a wedding ring!!!
https://www.royal.uk/royal-wedding-traditions
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Details of Prince Harry and Ms. Markle's wedding rings will be released on their wedding day.
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I can't believe I found this information first!!!!! 
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05-11-2018, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Countessmeout
The problem is the # of people polled vs the actual population.
While 53% of people polled said they would watch the royal wedding, not the entire population of the UK would have participated in the poll. It may have been 90% of the people who took the poll actually ended up watching, as we have no idea how many people in the UK actually participated. That is what I was getting at, when saying the polls don't really reflect how popular the wedding will be for watching.
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That's not how statistics works though. You can't poll everyone in a nation of 63.5 million at the time of the wedding. What they probably did was have a random sampling of about 1 million which would be be enough, and then calculate for a random sampling error of about 2%. In any fashion, the numbers were way off 2% of the confidence interval, which meant in the end the poll numbers were off by almost 10 million people. Statistics is tricky, but math never lies, which means that some who were polled that said they would watch probably didn't watch or watched at a later time or online. We can't account for that huge error in the numbers.
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05-11-2018, 09:17 PM
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As far as I am concerned, this will be the last BIG royal wedding in Europe for quite some time that attracts this type of MASSIVE media attention and I will be enjoying all of it next week.
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05-11-2018, 09:18 PM
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Looky what I found!!!   Buried deep on the royal website under Royal Wedding Traditions, there is a topic "Wedding rings of Welsh gold"!! It would appear that this is confirmation that Prince Harry WILL wear a wedding ring!!!
https://www.royal.uk/royal-wedding-traditions
I can't believe I found this information first!!!!!  
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Nice find. I read all the other traditions, and it seems that most all of them date back to Queen Victoria.
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05-11-2018, 09:25 PM
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It makes sense to me that Harry would wear one two. Especially because his bride is from a tradition where husbands wear a wedding ring as well.
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05-11-2018, 09:25 PM
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I know some people, ahem, will be looking for any sign that people hate Harry and/or Meghan and are saying their prayers no one watches or show up. That could happen! It could be a dud. I do think not having a bank holiday takes some of the interest/excitement out though.
But, all I know is that am personally looking forward to this and having lots of my buddies over to watch. I also know my colleagues and friends in the UK are excited.
Most British people do not give two figs about the BRF, no matter how close or far they are to the throne.
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05-11-2018, 09:28 PM
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I know some people, ahem, will be looking for any sign that people hate Harry and/or Meghan and are saying their prayers no one watches or show up. That could happen! It could be a dud. I do think not having a bank holiday takes some of the interest/excitement out though.
But, I know I am looking forward to this and having lots of my buddies over to watch. I also know my colleagues and friends in the UK are excited. Most British people do not give two figs about the BRF, no matter how close or far they are to the throne.
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One of my colleagues is British and jealous that I'm throwing a party and he isn't, lol. He said he and his wife are watching though - I passed by his computer and he had all of this royal wedding stuff up. It was hilarious.
Another ex-pat who married my bestie's brother is celebrating at the British Embassy (she did a lot of work with Parliament and other officials before she married and moved to the US). I'm mad because she can only stay for part of my party, lol!
I will be very curious to find out after the wedding what the viewership was like from the US.
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05-11-2018, 09:46 PM
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All I know is that it doesn't matter if 100 people tune in to watch this wedding or 3,000,000 people tune in to this wedding. For two people, there will be only each other in that chapel and that is Harry and Meghan. The opportunity to watch is given to us should we choose to see this wedding.
Watching this wedding is like having a flush toilet in your home. You know its there. If you want or need to use it, its totally up to you. Sometimes the importance of that room is more important than others and sometimes you spend more time in there than at other times. Fact is, 100% of the population will use it daily.
I'm wondering. Did they do a poll to see how many of the population will be watching the "big game" later that day?
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05-11-2018, 09:55 PM
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The problem is the v of people polled vs the actual population.
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That is only an issue if the sample is not representative. You don't need to poll everyone.
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It needed to be a holiday because a wedding of that magnitude, on a weekday/workday in the middle of London was not practical. It could have been on the weekend, or on an actual bank holiday.
And many people didn't appreciate it. There was backlash about the cost on businesses, imposing another bank holiday on them on that weekend. That it did the opposite.
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Yes, that makes sense. My first interpretation was that you said that William and Catherine picked a date that happened to be on a Friday, so a holiday needed to be declared. However, of course the date was picked with the idea of a bank holiday in mind. If not, that had not been seen as desirable they most likely would have married a day later. Whether people appreciated the choice that was made is a different matter but it surely wasn't an after thought - just like the decision for Harry to get married on a Saturday is on purpose.
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05-11-2018, 10:00 PM
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Excitement build up for these royal weddings really don’t officially kick in until the very last few days. Hotels fill up, people camp out on the streets and the media start up their official coverage.
A lot of folks will be tuning in to this wedding. Whether they’re watching it Live, viewing highlights, recording it, or even viewing pictures. The eyes of the world will set on Windsor and on the royal family on May 19th.
Some folks just like playing down their interest.
I’ll be recording the wedding. My Father’s funeral is on that day.
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05-11-2018, 10:01 PM
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The way I see it is that when planning the wedding, Harry and Meghan already knew that their day wouldn't be a bank holiday and to accommodate as many people as they could that would want to watch their wedding, they chose a Saturday.
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05-11-2018, 10:06 PM
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I’ll be recording the wedding. My Father’s funeral is on that day.
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My condolences to you and your family.
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05-11-2018, 10:07 PM
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All my prayers Dman
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05-11-2018, 10:16 PM
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Thanks guys!
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05-11-2018, 10:54 PM
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Yep. American husbands usually wear wedding rings.
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05-11-2018, 11:05 PM
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Now onto the viewership, we don’t know how good the sample was, which usually is the problem with polls. However, what we do know is that networks and websites have been running stories about them. If they didn’t get the desired rating spikes, they wouldn’t be going all out for the wedding coverage. So there is obviously significant interest there.
One thing about the Brits, I have to wonder how the bank holiday plays into their excitement though. I remember it being a huge deal for some this time, and I think that was also a big deal last time. Theresa May’s office has to come out and explain this multiple times when it was announced there would be no bank holiday. Even though people here never thought they’d be one long before the engagement is announced. An extra day off certain cheers people up.
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05-11-2018, 11:16 PM
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I was kind of surprised by this actually.
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Meghan Markle has chosen a gospel group and a teenage cellist to perform at the Royal Wedding, but appears to have overlooked the Queen’s official composer.
Judith Weir, who is the first woman to be Master of the Queen’s Music, tells me she has not been invited to contribute to the big day.
Choosing her words carefully, she says: ‘I haven’t been asked to compose a piece, but I would have done.’
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Read more: Queen’s official composer snubbed as Meghan Markle opts for gospel group | Daily Mail Online
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05-11-2018, 11:17 PM
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Nice find! I think most of us predicted Harry would wear one. I don’t know how much his wife’s culture played into this, but given the way Harry is, I just never doubted that he’d wear one.
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05-11-2018, 11:26 PM
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I remember flipping through stories on one of my news feeds that had an article stating that Harry would break royal tradition at his wedding. Of course, you had to click on the article to find out exactly what tradition he was breaking. It stated that Harry is expected to wear a wedding ring. Why? Because he actually likes wearing jewelry (gave his bead bracelets as an example) whereas William opted out of the wedding ring because he's not fond of jewelry at all.
Just by following Harry and then watching him since he's met Meghan, I am of the mind that he will wear a welsh gold wedding band proudly. It just seems to me as being something Harry would do.
I wonder if he'll also wear his beaded bracelets safely tucked into the cuff on his wedding day. He seems to be sentimental that way.
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