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03-30-2018, 11:19 PM
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It was always going to be huge wedding when Harry was going to get married. The security measures were always going to be huge too, and IMHO questioning the security is very short sighted.
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03-30-2018, 11:22 PM
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Well, considering the 1st in line to the throne married Camilla in the Registrar's Office and how unpopular she was for a very long time, that probably wouldn't have been feasible. And obviously, they've determined the cost for the 5th/6th in line to the throne IS worth it.
I also wonder if the longer route is because they've let less people into the grounds of Windsor castle than Sophie and Edward did?
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Correct on Charles and Camilla. It was a second marriage, a small civil ceremony and blessing. And one with a less then popular bride. Of course Harry's wedding will call for more show, and there will be more draw to it.
Also the reality is that security costs and demand naturally have gone up. There was a lot less security concern when Sophie and Edward married. The shorter route, by like 1 mile, doesn't add up to the much smaller security cost. Cutting Harry and Meghan's route by 1 mile likely would not reduce the price much if at all.
It also probably explains why fewer people are in the castle grounds. There is a much higher need to screen who will be invited to be within the walls. By choosing less, it takes less time and money, to screen them.
They are balancing security and cost with the demand of the public to be part.
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03-30-2018, 11:26 PM
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It’d be interesting to see which carriage they end up using. I thought it’d probably be the Ascot Landau before, but now, with the announcements this week, I’m not so sure.
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03-30-2018, 11:51 PM
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Omid and Emily think it will be the horse drawn gold carriage/carriage with gold.
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03-31-2018, 12:07 AM
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 I’m not sure which one that is. But I don’t think it’ll be an enclosed one unless it rains.
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03-31-2018, 12:40 AM
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Thanks for the link and info on the coaches. They took my breath away, did not know there were that many within the family. They craftsman ship on them is just amazing, so beauty to detail. Any one except the gold coach will work for that is HM's coach for state occasions only.
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03-31-2018, 01:17 AM
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They also alluded to some royal event they just attended in secret at BP that they couldn't talk about because it is embargoed I assume for the next 2 weeks.
They also said the Suits cast and crew have known for some time now they were attending. Makes sense. I would assume a lot of their close friends had a Save the Date kind of thing, so no real worry of getting an invite.
And I have been seeing students posting on social media about being selected as one of the lucky ones picked to be in insides the walls.
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03-31-2018, 01:37 AM
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Honestly any personal guests, and that to me includes her former co-workers, would have known a long time ago they were invited. Save the date or not. As well as any important people, like Prince Seeiso, who would literally need to save the date. The invitations are just a formality.
Those who are invited to be in the courtyard would be another matter. And perhaps those from the charities, even those in the church, in knowing exactly who would be sent.
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03-31-2018, 05:43 AM
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03-31-2018, 07:40 AM
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It was always going to be huge wedding when Harry was going to get married. The security measures were always going to be huge too, and IMHO questioning the security is very short sighted.
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Nonetheless, the cost of the wedding is turning out to be higher than expected. Given that the bride is not so popular either , at least in the UK, is there really a popular demand for the longer carriage ride route for example ? I believe a more subdued wedding along the lines of Edward and Sophie's would have been more appropriate and less controversial.
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03-31-2018, 07:54 AM
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Nonetheless, the cost of the wedding is turning out to be higher than expected. Given that the bride is not so popular either , at least in the UK, is there really a popular demand for the longer carriage ride route for example ? I believe a more subdued wedding along the lines of Edward and Sophie's would have been more appropriate and less controversial.
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This bride ha already surpassed the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall in approval ratings based on polls that’s been released. And this wedding is bringing a lot more than expected international coverage for the UK as a result of her being an American with ties to a major commonwealth country. Based on the turn outs at their walkabouts, it’s obvious that they are very popular. In fact, they are expecting a large crowd to come in for the wedding with plans for a lock down if the crowd exceeds that. So yes, there is obviously a popular demand for a longer carriage ride route. And it really wouldn’t save a significant portion of costs if they took a shorter carriage ride as the “ring of steel” and the security that is being put in place prior to the wedding will happen all over Windsor regardless. And btw, the security isn’t just for their safety, it’s also for the safety of the people in the crowd. I haven’t seen much controversy other than the heightened security causing alert and the police force trying to calm people by saying this should make them feel safer.
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03-31-2018, 07:57 AM
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Bringing in a lot of money too...not sure how much previous weddings have brought in but they are estimating almost 2 billion (yes with a B) dollars revenue from this one.
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03-31-2018, 07:58 AM
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I've not seen or heard of the slightest controversy regarding this Wedding altho' , [admittedly] i'm not a reader of the Tabloids. Prince Harry is HUGELY popular, and his choice of Bride is widely accepted, as is the scale of the celebrations, which are absolutely what we expect for a Prince 'of his standing' .
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03-31-2018, 08:02 AM
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Nonetheless, the cost of the wedding is turning out to be higher than expected. Given that the bride is not so popular either , at least in the UK, is there really a popular demand for the longer carriage ride route for example ? I believe a more subdued wedding along the lines of Edward and Sophie's would have been more appropriate and less controversial.
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Can you back up your claim, that the bride is not so popular? And what controversies are there about this wedding?
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03-31-2018, 08:05 AM
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Bringing in a lot of money too...not sure how much previous weddings have brought in but they are estimating almost 2 billion (yes with a B) dollars revenue from this one.
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There are some skepticism regarding this. And here is how I see it, I don’t think it’ll be just May 19th itself, but over time it brought more attention to Windsor and England for tourism. As much as I am a fan of the couple, I have no plans whatsoever to go to Windsor or even London on May 19th. Why? I hate big crowds. However, next time I do plan on going to UK in the next year or so, and Windsor will now be on my list whereas before, I’d probably just go around London and then head elsewhere. I believe there has been reports from officials that the Chapel itself has already seen a spike in tourism since the announcement and people make a beeline for it as soon as they get in rather than just get to it at some point during their tour. A report report on searches for flights to London from US has shown several hundred percent increases from different hubs in US, and well there are no tourist quite like the Americans, which are the biggest tourist group for UK.
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03-31-2018, 08:13 AM
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These very strict security measures, to me, are not totally because of who Harry and Meghan are. Of course, they're the main players in this event and security needs to be tight and absolute to protect them from possible harm but there's also the fact that every person in and around Windsor on that date deserves to be safe and secure. So they're not just there to protect the bridal couple but also their guests and the onlookers flocking to the area to be a part of the wedding. It's always better to be over prepared than under prepared and have to deal with the consequences.
I'd also hate to live around the Windsor area and realize that I needed a gallon of milk on that Saturday morning.
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03-31-2018, 10:31 AM
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Nonetheless, the cost of the wedding is turning out to be higher than expected. Given that the bride is not so popular either , at least in the UK, is there really a popular demand for the longer carriage ride route for example ? I believe a more subdued wedding along the lines of Edward and Sophie's would have been more appropriate and less controversial.
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How is she not popular in the UK? It would seem from their many engagements so far it is quite the opposite. Prince Harry is extremely popular and according to the these polls that seem to keep coming out... Meghan is doing just fine by the public view.
The wedding was never going to be a small thing. I am glad they did what they wanted and having it in Windsor but I am sure many of their advisors are wishing they had did it at Westminster Abbey just cause it might have been easier.
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These very strict security measures, to me, are not totally because of who Harry and Meghan are. Of course, they're the main players in this event and security needs to be tight and absolute to protect them from possible harm but there's also the fact that every person in and around Windsor on that date deserves to be safe and secure. So they're not just there to protect the bridal couple but also their guests and the onlookers flocking to the area to be a part of the wedding. It's always better to be over prepared than under prepared and have to deal with the consequences.
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Exactly. It isn't just about them but about everyone. There will be a ton of people together in a compact space. Of course security measures will be extremely high, as it should. Better safe than sorry.
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03-31-2018, 10:43 AM
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The people who are complaining about security costs would be the same people who would complain about lack of security measures if there was a security or terrorist incident!!!!!
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03-31-2018, 10:51 AM
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That's it in a nutshell, Terri Terri. The security measures that are being put in place are for the safety and security of *everybody* in the area. We saw security really beefed up for Ascot last year and the recent security measures for this wedding do not surprise me one bit.
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