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Old 03-29-2018, 02:59 PM
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Lots of security details in link.

https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/n...meghan-markle/

Security measures at the Royal Wedding will include.

Hostile Vehicle Mitigation barriers
Railway station patrols
Screening and searches
ANPR
CCTV
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Old 03-29-2018, 03:27 PM
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Really remarkable what they must do now. Sad. But all to the good for and safety of all.
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Old 03-29-2018, 04:09 PM
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I assume that she received a different invitation as she is included in the 1200 people from all over the country invited to the grounds of Windsor castle. The invite that is shown seems to be one for the chapel (and doesn't include her name).
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Old 03-29-2018, 06:58 PM
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Really remarkable what they must do now. Sad. But all to the good for and safety of all.
But I did like how they phrased it to say they do this al the time for royal events, that they get lots of help from the community and partner organizations and (in the final line) normal policing will carry on throughout. Good for them!.
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Old 03-29-2018, 09:58 PM
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No invitation so far for Sir Elton John:

Elton John Hasn't Gotten an Invite to the Royal Wedding | PEOPLE.com
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:11 AM
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...mpression=true
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:22 AM
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What was the need for the procession through Windsor? Surely costs for the 5th/6th in line to the throne not worth it? Even the 1st in line didn't go through Windsor when he married Camilla.

Via Ikon Pictures Twitter

He does have a point. I think the route Edward and Sophie took is good enough for Harry and Meghan
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:28 AM
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How much shorter was the route for the Wessexes' wedding?
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:30 AM
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How much shorter was the route for the Wessexes' wedding?
Iíll have to dig it out. It was posted up thread in an earlier discussion. It didnít include the extended trip through Windsor.
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:35 AM
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More and more sounding like this is going to big a big wedding with all the bells and whistles. It's looking like it will be quite grand and royal.


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Old 03-30-2018, 12:20 PM
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What was the need for the procession through Windsor? Surely costs for the 5th/6th in line to the throne not worth it? Even the 1st in line didn't go through Windsor when he married Camilla.

Via Ikon Pictures Twitter

He does have a point. I think the route Edward and Sophie took is good enough for Harry and Meghan
Apparently they expect a large turn out and want to accommodate all who want to go to Windsor and see the couple on their wedding day. If they expected all could easily fit in a shorter route, I am sure a shorter route would have been chosen.
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:34 PM
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I think its all part and parcel of what Harry and Meghan said they were going to do. Involve the public in their wedding day and from all the plans we've heard of, they're not going to disappoint.

If I remember right, when they first announced their engagement, people were hoping they marry at Westminster Abbey with one of the reasons being the carriage ride through London and the balcony kiss. They're trying to incorporate as much as they can to involve the public and I like that.
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:46 PM
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Here is the route for Harry and Meghan

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserv...2C0&resize=685

The route for Edward and Sophie is not easy to find but looking at the footage it would seem they just made a big loop and didn't go down the Long Walk? It was pretty short and they are estimating that it will take H&M about 20 minutes or so?

Also no shade to Edward but looking at the wedding footage... while there was A LOT of people there I expect 2x as much for Harry. I get the desire for having a longer route to allow more people to see them. The talking about locking down the city because of the amount of people they expect to pack this place.

Security was always going to be an issue especially with Harry's military background. And now the added threats toward Meghan and just the time we live in now. Sad to say. That is a lot of people in a small space. Better safe than sorry.
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Old 03-30-2018, 02:12 PM
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More and more sounding like this is going to big a big wedding with all the bells and whistles. It's looking like it will be quite grand and royal.


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Old 03-30-2018, 02:24 PM
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Oh I agree!!! I want as much of a grand royal wedding as I can get..it's going to be at least 20 years or more before the next one like this. I'll be an old woman then! lol


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Old 03-30-2018, 03:26 PM
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What was the need for the procession through Windsor? Surely costs for the 5th/6th in line to the throne not worth it? Even the 1st in line didn't go through Windsor when he married Camilla.

Via Ikon Pictures Twitter

He does have a point. I think the route Edward and Sophie took is good enough for Harry and Meghan
Well, considering the 1st in line to the throne married Camilla in the Registrar's Office and how unpopular she was for a very long time, that probably wouldn't have been feasible. And obviously, they've determined the cost for the 5th/6th in line to the throne IS worth it.

I also wonder if the longer route is because they've let less people into the grounds of Windsor castle than Sophie and Edward did?
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Old 03-30-2018, 03:35 PM
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I listened to a podcast today with Omid Scobie and Emily Andrews (twitter) and they talked about the security measure that will be taken. Sounds like they are a couple steps up from previous weddings. Big metal detector machines folks have to walk thru, that they will be out at least a week ahead of time with bomb sniffing dogs, daily...limit the number of people allowed on the streets etc.



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Old 03-30-2018, 03:44 PM
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I read elsewhere that the route for Edward and Sophie was about half a mile. This route is around two miles in length. The costs reflect concerns about terrorism, which wasn't such a concern in 1999.
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Old 03-30-2018, 09:56 PM
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I think its all part and parcel of what Harry and Meghan said they were going to do. Involve the public in their wedding day and from all the plans we've heard of, they're not going to disappoint.

If I remember right, when they first announced their engagement, people were hoping they marry at Westminster Abbey with one of the reasons being the carriage ride through London and the balcony kiss. They're trying to incorporate as much as they can to involve the public and I like that.
Agreed. I was rooting for London, but I am getting excited about Windsor mostly because of the carriage ride.
With that being said, I stand by my point that Harry's wedding should have been at Wabbey and trying to cram a senior royal's wedding into Windsor was a bad idea, even with it being pared down. Securing the Mall is done several times a year for other royal events and the police are pros at it in London. Trying to cram even a fraction of the people they expect (and I think 100k seems a little high) into Windsor will be a nightmare.


At the end of the day, if Kate and William or Edward or Sophie were to get married today in London or at Windsor their security costs would also be outrageous. This is just the name of game in today's world. We use taxpayer money ALL the time for big sporting events which are technically subsidizing private business. A royal wedding is a national event with national/historical import (especially this wedding). The police have made decisions about security independent of the wishes of the bride and groom. The carriage ride may add to costs, but at the end of the day it is the police going above and beyond to ensure safety--even if some of the measures are likely overdone.

Why people whine about security costs is beyond me. Maybe because I live in the States where POTUS' security cost 100s of millions a year (and even more with this President...), but the purported cost of this wedding seems small for what will likely be a large event with lots of public involvement.
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:14 PM
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Agreed. I was rooting for London, but I am getting excited about Windsor mostly because of the carriage ride.
With that being said, I stand by my point that Harry's wedding should have been at Wabbey and trying to cram a senior royal's wedding into Windsor was a bad idea, even with it being pared down. Securing the Mall is done several times a year for other royal events and the police are pros at it in London. Trying to cram even a fraction of the people they expect (and I think 100k seems a little high) into Windsor will be a nightmare.


At the end of the day, if Kate and William or Edward or Sophie were to get married today in London or at Windsor their security costs would also be outrageous. This is just the name of game in today's world. We use taxpayer money ALL the time for big sporting events which are technically subsidizing private business. A royal wedding is a national event with national/historical import (especially this wedding). The police have made decisions about security independent of the wishes of the bride and groom. The carriage ride may add to costs, but at the end of the day it is the police going above and beyond to ensure safety--even if some of the measures are likely overdone.

Why people whine about security costs is beyond me. Maybe because I live in the States where POTUS' security cost 100s of millions a year (and even more with this President...), but the purported cost of this wedding seems small for what will likely be a large event with lots of public involvement.
I think some initially thought that it would cost less at Windsor being that itís be a smaller wedding and shorter route as St. Georgeís is on castle grounds. However, with all these details coming out, Iíve seen multiple outlets saying that it actually cost more in Windsor than it would have in London due to the fact that London is much more equipped to handle events like this. However, I donít know how it wouldíve gone over given that the FA Cup was happening now in London on the same day. The London police force wouldíve probably been overstretched. They are capping the crowd at 100k, I believe, and there have been talks about lock down if it exceeds that.

I do think a smaller wedding is what the couple wanted. I stand by my original view that the location was still up for discussion when the original engagement announcement was made as the announcement made no mention of the location. The Cambridge announcement mentioned London and Princess Eugenieís announcement included St. Georgeís. Itís becoming more and more evident that they had to get creative with the space limitation with the invitations out where people are not getting a plus one even if they are married. St. Georgeís can hold up to 800, but realistically itíd get quite crammed in there.
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