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Old 03-24-2018, 01:16 PM
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I would make alterations of my own, I am experienced enough I can adjust things around. I would not mix the flowers in the batter either. I would use them as top decoration. I've never seen buttercream made with any egg product.

I doubt this is the exact recipe that is being used for the wedding cake.


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Old 03-24-2018, 01:16 PM
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If I can figure out where to get fresh elderflowers (and I have no idea about the cordial) I'd like to make this cake...have it on the day of the wedding to celebrate!


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Any decent liquor store carries St. Germain (ie elderflower cordial) You can find it in mini sizes too.
Unless she makes it herself (which she might be since she posted a recipe) she is probably the one I listed above.
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Old 03-24-2018, 01:19 PM
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A little research and I found the elderflower cordial on Amazon (American)...not that expensive either, not sure if it's any good or not! https://www.amazon.com/Belvoir-Fruit...00CAS1860?th=1

Or you can make it https://www.jamieoliver.com/news-and...lower-cordial/


Hmmm so now to find actual elderflower


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The article from the baker includes a recipe for cordial

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I really hope that is not the wedding cake. I quickly asked a few friends (two who are pastry chefs) who live in Britain and three came back saying they tried this cake before, they do not recommend- well they used harsher words. One of them was one of the chefs, I trust his palate.

About the actual recipe:
My eyes popped from shock when I read that the flowers were being mixed into the cake batter. Nope.

And buttercream is not made with egg yolk (I thought that was lemon curd until I read the recipe) The reason you do not use yolk itís because yolk is a fat, so you are essentially mixing fat with fat. Hence egg whites is used.


Whatever. I truly hope thereís gonna be a second cake.
Unless you were invited, no need to worry about if there is a second cake

I assume the couple, like most if not all engaged couples, have sampled the cake before hand. You usually don't order a flavor, and from a baker, you haven't tried yet. As long as the couple likes it.

But considering William and Kate had 2 cakes, it is quite possible they will too. Having a second cake is a good idea especially when some people may not be a fan of one flavor (for those who wouldn't touch fruit cake with a ten foot pole, there was William's chocolate biscuit cake).
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Old 03-24-2018, 01:19 PM
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Thanks for the excellent and profession opinion on this cake, evolvingdoors. From what you've stated, I think if I was going to have a piece of cake to celebrate this wedding, I'll just grab myself a cheesecake. I'm not a big dessert eater.

If anyone does try this cake, let me know how it turns out? I'm curious.
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Old 03-24-2018, 01:19 PM
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Yeah we are rural here. The closest liquor store that would have that type of variety (maybe) is over an hour away ..however I have messaged them on FB to see if they carry any!


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Thanks for the excellent and profession opinion on this cake, evolvingdoors. From what you've stated, I think if I was going to have a piece of cake to celebrate this wedding, I'll just grab myself a cheesecake. I'm not a big dessert eater.

If anyone does try this cake, let me know how it turns out? I'm curious.
If I can find the cordial I'm going to make it sans elderflower flowers most likely ..so it'll be a variation, but close!



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The article from the baker includes a recipe for cordial

I missed that! Guess I didn't scroll down enough!



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Old 03-24-2018, 01:31 PM
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The article from the baker includes a recipe for cordial



Unless you were invited, no need to worry about if there is a second cake

I assume the couple, like most if not all engaged couples, have sampled the cake before hand. You usually don't order a flavor, and from a baker, you haven't tried yet. As long as the couple likes it.

But considering William and Kate had 2 cakes, it is quite possible they will too. Having a second cake is a good idea especially when some people may not be a fan of one flavor (for those who wouldn't touch fruit cake with a ten foot pole, there was William's chocolate biscuit cake).
I highly doubt I am invited. As I personally do not know either groom or bride.
I would have much rather do their cake than be a guest. :-)

And having done wedding cakes I have learned that when a couple likes the more unique cake flavors it usually ends up with cut cake pieces in the trash (like you can see they guests took a bite or two and.. nope. Happens every time!), whatsever left is given to the catering staff to take home, in some cases may be donated to a soup kitchen (depends on state law) if neither it goes to the trash.

Wedding invites tend to like the classics at a wedding, which is why they are classic.
Unique cake flavor are best saved for smaller events like anniversaries or birthday or graduation, promotion (when celebrated with close friends and family).
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Old 03-24-2018, 02:35 PM
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And many times couples who are foodies, like Meghan at least is, have friends with similar tastes. I spent about three years working as a server and bar tender for weddings in college, and I saw plenty of different wedding cakes. Honestly I found more people tried the unique wedding cakes. Wedding cakes don't get eaten plain and simple, they ware waste of money, no matter the flavor. Things like fondant turn people off. That is why cupcake towers (with multiple flavors), dessert tables and other alternatives are far more popular for weddings now a days. Even cookies or pies.

But if Harry is anything like his brother, there will be a 'manly cake' and something less adventurous eaters can dive into.

In a wedding where the bride and groom will have very little say on how most of the wedding is, their food choices they are welcome to pick what they want. Likely one of the few say they have, especially for the day time reception hosted by the queen. Charles will likely allow them to have pretty much say on what happens at night.


As for buttercream not using egg yolks- depends on the buttercream. French buttercream (the kind in macarons for instance) does in fact use yolks. And has become very popular for decorating outside of cakes as it is easy to work with.

https://pastrieslikeapro.com/2013/10.../#.WracwExFzIU
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Old 03-24-2018, 04:39 PM
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Countess you are correct, so I stand corrected! It’s been ages since I made French buttercream- probably since culinary school. I mostly used Italian buttercream. Sometimes Swiss. Never American though!! Lol.

Even foodies tend to like traditional flavor for the wedding cake. A lot of it is because the food menu is so big, flavor wise.
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Old 03-24-2018, 05:04 PM
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I am absolutely sure that there will be a groom's cake (Harry has a sweet tooth apparently) and perhaps even a fruit cake as well for the traditionalists. I'm sure back-up cakes are made too, in case of disasters, taste-wise and other.

As I am British-born and come from an older generation I'm used to fruit cakes and puddings and am rather fond of them, though funnily enough I didn't have one for my own wedding. They used to be standard fare at weddings in both Australia and Britain. However, I have to say I haven't been to a wedding in the last fifteen years here and in the UK that has had a fruitcake. It's completely gone out of fashion. The last wedding I attended here in Aus we were served Black Forest cake and cream, which was very nice.
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Old 03-24-2018, 05:21 PM
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I don't think this has come up, but Elderberry (as it is called in my part of the US) grows wild in ditches and hedgerows across the Midwest, US. Same Genus as the European elderflower - just a different species. And the flowers and berries are both used in recipes.

It's long been used to make wine - going back to pioneer days, here. The Principles of Elderberry Fruit Wine Making - The Daily Fruit Wine

Elderberry liqueur has also become quite popular for mixologists!
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Old 03-24-2018, 07:08 PM
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I have located a bottle of St Germain Elderflower cordial (almost 40.00 American dollars!) at the big liquor store an hour away.

This is going to be an interesting experiment!


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Old 03-24-2018, 07:28 PM
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Harry got his proper name even though he has been called Harry since his birth because Harry is just a nickname, Meghan is not. Rachel is her first given name, Meghan her second, but like Harry, she has been called Meghan since she was a child,
Harry may go by Harry. However, to this very hour hundreds of people do not know that he is actually Henry and not Harry.
Will they not be in for a shock when they hear him referred to as Prince Henry on his wedding day?
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Old 03-24-2018, 07:33 PM
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Maybe some will. I can remember reports that when Harry formally closed the London Olympics and was introduced as 'Prince Henry' people in the arena reportedly looked around wondering who 'Henry' was.
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Old 03-24-2018, 08:06 PM
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I'm sure they would not have picked the cake without trying it first. I know I did before we got married.
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Old 03-24-2018, 08:23 PM
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Good for Meghan and Harry for doing what feels best for them and not worrying about others. If people at the wedding like the cake then they'll eat it if not who cares. If there is ever a Royal forums wedding we'll take a poll on what kind of cake to have.
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Old 03-24-2018, 08:48 PM
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Harry and Meghan's wedding china is on sale and it's lovely. Cornflower blue, white trim, the initials H and M are side by side in gold linked with what looks like a lover's knot and topped with a coronet over part of each initial. The gold is 22K.
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:21 PM
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I'm very tempted by the teacup/mug. Shipping will be terrible though.


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Old 03-24-2018, 09:36 PM
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IMO, Harry could wear his camouflage uniform from the Army and still rock it.
No! No, no, no! A wedding with such a blatantly militaristic element? Yuck!

No military uniform at all would be my choice.

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If I can figure out where to get fresh elderflowers (and I have no idea about the cordial) I'd like to make this cake...have it on the day of the wedding to celebrate! LaRae
Went though my head, too. But also because the cake has been so roundly panned in some quarters as an odd choice of flavors, I am inclined to check it out.
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:54 PM
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No! No, no, no! A wedding with such a blatantly militaristic element? Yuck!

No military uniform at all would be my choice.



Went though my head, too. But also because the cake has been so roundly panned in some quarters as an odd choice of flavors, I am inclined to check it out.

If I was in the UK I'd go lay money down on his new blue/Marine dress uniform!

I like to try new foods...not gonna find the elderflower but I have the cordial tracked down...the only way I'll ever taste it is if I make it. No bakeries with 50 miles of me!

I might do a cupcake version


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Old 03-24-2018, 09:56 PM
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If I was in the UK I'd go lay money down on his new blue/Marine dress uniform!
I'd be okay with that one. Blue (rather than black) would have better options for flowers and such, too.

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I like to try new foods...not gonna find the elderflower but I have the cordial tracked down...the only way I'll ever taste it is if I make it. No bakeries with 50 miles of me!

I might do a cupcake version LaRae
Good idea. We must compare notes. (Hope I can get to it!)
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