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Old 03-23-2018, 05:42 PM
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Sometimes back, I googled famous people who use their second names; this list includes two very famous Britons
Sir Thomas Sean Connery
Sir James Paul McCartney
Former Canadian Prime Minister Joseph Philippe Pierre Trudeau
William Bradley Pitt
Christopher Ashton Kutcher
Laura Jeanne Reese Witherspoon
Hannah Dakota Fanning
Robyn Rihanna Fenty
Henry Warren Beatty
Walter Bruce Willis
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Old 03-23-2018, 06:19 PM
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For actors and people from showbiz who may be memebers of a guild it may boil down to: another actor/producer/director whatever, is already using that name. So some end up going with a Middle name for the first name, some get a new professional name all together.
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:20 PM
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I remember some people had a hard time understanding that Prince Daniel’s full name is Olof Daniel, but his ‘’calling name’’ has always been Daniel and there was no talk of calling him anything but Prince Daniel. It’s the same for Meghan.
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Sometimes back, I googled famous people who use their second names; this list includes two very famous Britons
Sir Thomas Sean Connery
Sir James Paul McCartney
Former Canadian Prime Minister Joseph Philippe Pierre Trudeau
William Bradley Pitt
Christopher Ashton Kutcher
Laura Jeanne Reese Witherspoon
Hannah Dakota Fanning
Robyn Rihanna Fenty
Henry Warren Beatty
Walter Bruce Willis
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:41 PM
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Harry got his proper name even though he has been called Harry since his birth because Harry is just a nickname, Meghan is not. Rachel is her first given name, Meghan her second, but like Harry, she has been called Meghan since she was a child,
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Old 03-23-2018, 08:15 PM
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I noticed that only with Meghan's and Harry's wedding invitation did it specify day dress and hat for the women. None of the others mentioned the woman's attire (I don't think).
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William and Kate's had the same dress code on the bottom of their invitations.
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Old 03-23-2018, 08:29 PM
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Nope William invitation just says uniform, morning coat or lounge suit. Harry's also says day dress with hat



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Old 03-23-2018, 08:31 PM
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Sometimes back, I googled famous people who use their second names; this list includes two very famous Britons
Sir Thomas Sean Connery
Sir James Paul McCartney
Former Canadian Prime Minister Joseph Philippe Pierre Trudeau
William Bradley Pitt
Christopher Ashton Kutcher
Laura Jeanne Reese Witherspoon
Hannah Dakota Fanning
Robyn Rihanna Fenty
Henry Warren Beatty
Walter Bruce Willis
Note, with the exception of Trudeau, these are celebrities. It is a very old tradition to have a 'stage name'. Its habit with many to simply use one of their middle names instead. Perhaps because their middle name is more memorable, catchy, then their first like Rihanna. Dakota is a lot more catchy/memorable then Hannah. Bruce much more fashionable for show business then Walter and so on. Others like Martin Sheen chose to anglicize their name as when they tried to get auditions, his latino name seemed to be a stumbling block. His Charlie chose to use his father's stage name, while his brother Emilio chose to use his birth name. Nicolas Cage was the opposite of Charlie, and wanted to escape his family reputation and make it on his own and changed his name from Nicola Coppola, to Nicholas Cage.

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I have two names (let's say Maria Elisabeth). I've always been Elisabeth. Throughout Scandinavia, it's very common. I understand from this discussion that it's not the same thing in the UK.

The difference seems to be, unless I am wrong Maria Elisabeth would be your first name. Together? Like Prince Carl Philip, it would be wrong to call him just Carl as both Carl and Philip are his first name. Its called a double barrel first name. Or Maria Teresa of Luxembourg. Casually, you may drop one. I have a friend whose family has 4 daughters, 2 are Mary X and 2 are Maria X. They all go by what ever the X is. In English speaking countries, its not unheard of but its more uncommon to have double barrel first names. Sometimes you will see with a - to show they are together. Rachel is not 'Rachel Meghan' as one name. Meghan is her middle name. Like the queen is Elizabeth Alexandra Mary, but her first name is Elizabeth, not Elizabeth Alexandra.

My surprise stems from the invitations tend to be very formal. And usually in formal papers, you'd use the Proper name (not the called by name). Like we will see her referred to as Rachel in her vows.
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Nope William invitation just says uniform, morning coat or lounge suit. Harry's also says day dress with hat. LaRae
Nor did any of the others, like Edward's and Sophie's. Interesting, as for the latter's wedding there was a particular dress code because it was a late afternoon wedding going into evening for the reception. I seem to recall that there were no hats. So where was the dress code conveyed, or did people just know because of the time of the wedding? Seems like with most weddings indicating the men's attire is enough to signal what the women should wear.
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I suspect for a royal wedding the invitee gets more than just the formal "card" invite. I bet they get at least a sheet or e-mail of instructions, what time, where to arrive, security issues etc.
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Old 03-23-2018, 08:45 PM
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They must be going for a specific look ...and consider that many of the guest may be American/Canadian who perhaps don't normally wear hats to formal events. It might of been a nice way of just letting them know ...ladies wear a hat!!!


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They must be going for a specific look ...and consider that many of the guest may be American/Canadian who perhaps don't normally wear hats to formal events. It might of been a nice way of just letting them know ...ladies wear a hat!!! LaRae
Good points. Gives me high hopes that we will see hats and not fascinators! The day dresses should be wonderful. One reason why it would be oh-so-nice if the cameras watched the arrivals. Yes, I am interested in what the bride will be wearing but I am also interested in everyone else's dress.
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Good points. Gives me high hopes that we will see hats and not fascinators! The day dresses should be wonderful. One reason why it would be oh-so-nice if the cameras watched the arrivals. Yes, I am interested in what the bride will be wearing but I am also interested in everyone else's dress.
I bet we see some facinators too. I think everyone is going to be dressed to the nines!

I think she and Harry are gonna look amazing! I am sure thinking more and more she's going to have a wow dress..nothing too casual.


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I bet we see some facinators too.
I really hope the York princesses don't pull a look-at-me/us fascinator event.

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I think everyone is going to be dressed to the nines!
Yes, and with a late spring wedding those dresses could be almost summery (maybe).

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I think she and Harry are gonna look amazing!
BTW we've established that Harry will be dressed in his black uniform, correct? The one he wore at William's and Kate's wedding? If so I've just realized that that will likely be a dominant element in how the colors play out for the rest of the wedding, even her dress. Interesting element to consider.

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I am sure thinking more and more she's going to have a wow dress, nothing too casual. LaRae
Whatever it is it will be elegant, and very her.
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BTW we've established that Harry will be dressed in his black uniform, correct? The one he wore at William's and Kate's wedding? If so I've just realized that that will likely be a dominant element in how the colors play out for the rest of the wedding, even her dress. Interesting element to consider.
No, we don’t know. He has two possible uniforms, a black one and a navy blue one. We have to wait for May 19th to see which one he chooses, like we did with William.
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Hat wise I am pretty sure it will be a mix. The upper crust British guests will likely wear what they normally wear- and that is many fascinators, and smaller cocktail like hats (based on photos from the Cambridge and other weddings we have seen, non-royal ones included).

But the American/Canadian guests will likely bring out some proper hats. Fascinators aren't quite a thing here. Some may wear one just to 'when in Rome....' and all.
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I really hope the York princesses don't pull a look-at-me/us fascinator event.



Yes, and with a late spring wedding those dresses could be almost summery (maybe).



BTW we've established that Harry will be dressed in his black uniform, correct? The one he wore at William's and Kate's wedding? If so I've just realized that that will likely be a dominant element in how the colors play out for the rest of the wedding, even her dress. Interesting element to consider.



Whatever it is it will be elegant, and very her.

I'm trying not to think about the York girls and their fascination for horrific fascinators.

From what I understand Harry will wear his most senior uniform and it will be the one connected to the patronage he took over from the DoE..I believe it is a dark navy blue uniform.

I'm expecting summery dresses...but if it's a bit chilly there in May...might be more substantial.


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From what I understand Harry will wear his most senior uniform and it will be the one connected to the patronage he took over from the DoE..I believe it is a dark navy blue uniform. LaRae
Is the dark navy blue uniform the one in the third picture down (in the link) where he is wearing a pale blue beret?

The many uniforms of Prince Harry explained – Royal Central

The black uniform is the one he wore at William's wedding.
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Yes I think it might be the Blues and Royals...that's the one he is most likely to wear...minus the beret. Someone posted a pic of Phillip wearing the dress uniform that we should be seeing Harry in...I just can't remember which thread here!


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