Harry and Meghan: Wedding Suggestions and Musings - Page 136

O-H Anglophile · #**2701** 03-23-2018, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Countessmeout

Yes, and Meghan's first name is Rachel. If they were going to go full formal, it would have been Prince Henry and Ms Rachel Markle. Kate has never been known by her middle name. It seems having the invitation sent by Charles and not the queen, and simple touches like the names used, little less formal.

My point was, Catherine's name on her wedding invitation was "Miss Catherine Middleton", not "Miss Catherine Elizabeth Middleton" so comparabe to Ms. Meghan Markle. I didn't think I was that unclear.

CTchic · #**2702** 03-23-2018, 05:52 AM

But Kate goes by Catherine formally whereas Meghan does not go by Rachel at all. The only people that call Kate Kate are the media and presumably her nearest and dearest.

Everyone calls Meghan Meghan and never Rachel. She does not introduce herself as that either.

Lady Reem · #**2703** 03-23-2018, 10:14 AM

Meghan, Rachel are her two legal names. She has been referred to as Meghan since she was a child. It’d be very odd to start calling her something else.

Mbruno · #**2704** 03-23-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Reem

Meghan, Rachel are her two legal names. She has been referred to as Meghan since she was a child. It’d be very odd to start calling her something else.

That was not the point. The OP's argument was that Meghan's full name was not printed in the invitation because Harry's wasn't either; instead only Harry's title and first name were printed. Other posters then noted that, if the underlying rule was to print first names only, then they should have used Rachel instead of Meghan.

Many people with two given names actually go by their "second" name on a daily basis. That is actually fairly common in some languages like Portuguese where the first name may be a rather common name that many people have and the second name is what is really used at school for example to differentiate one pupil from another in the same class. I don't think it is that common though with English names.

Personally, I like Rachel better than Meghan, but I agree that, if she has used Meghan as her primary given name for most of her life, she is not going to change it now.

burbankstorylady · #**2705** 03-23-2018, 11:07 AM

Is it normal not to have the Lord Chamberlain in the invite? I mean, even with the Prince of Wales hosting the wedding for his son, the event should fall under the Lord Chamberlain's office, no?

Marlo · #**2706** 03-23-2018, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tatianacressida

Is it normal not to have the Lord Chamberlain in the invite? I mean, even with the Prince of Wales hosting the wedding for his son, the event should fall under the Lord Chamberlain's office, no?

You might want to check the invitation again.

Osipi · #**2707** 03-23-2018, 12:01 PM

As the Lord Chamberlain is always a peer and a member of the monarch's Privy Council, my guess is that it is his office that handles and processes the RSVPS. The Lord Chamberlain is the chief functionary of the court, and is generally responsible for organizing all court functions.

Hence, those that received invitations to the wedding are directed to respond to the Lord Chamberlain's office.

Mbruno · #**2708** 03-23-2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Osipi

As the Lord Chamberlain is always a peer and a member of the monarch's Privy Council, my guess is that it is his office that handles and processes the RSVPS. The Lord Chamberlain is the chief functionary of the court, and is generally responsible for organizing all court functions.

Hence, those that received invitations to the wedding are directed to respond to the Lord Chamberlain's office.

I think the OP was making the point that the invitations to William’s wedding were issued by the Lord Chamberlain “ by command of the Queen” whereas the invitations to Harry’s wedding were sent by the Prince of Wales directly.

jacqui24 · #**2709** 03-23-2018, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbruno

I think the OP was making the point that the invitations to William’s wedding were issued by the Lord Chamberlain “ by command of the Queen” whereas the invitations to Harry’s wedding were sent by the Prince of Wales directly.

Wedding invitations are usually sent by the parents rather than grandparents. In William's case, it was obviously different as he is in the direct line to the throne. The Queen's younger children had their invitation sent out by the Queen because obviously she's their mother.

Marlo · #**2710** 03-23-2018, 12:56 PM

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Mbruno · #**2711** 03-23-2018, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jacqui24

Wedding invitations are usually sent by the parents rather than grandparents. In William's case, it was obviously different as he is in the direct line to the throne. The Queen's younger children had their invitation sent out by the Queen because obviously she's their mother.

My best guess to answer the OP’s question is that, because the invitations came from the PoW, they could not be issued by the Lord Chamberlain since the PoW , unlike the Queen, cannot “command” the Lord Chamberlain to do anything.

jacqui24 · #**2712** 03-23-2018, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbruno

My best guess to answer the OP’s question is that, because the invitations came from the PoW, they could not be issued by the Lord Chamberlain since the PoW , unlike the Queen, cannot “command” the Lord Chamberlain to do anything.

I agree with that. Although it is being handled through the Lord Chamberlain's office. It's only HMQ that can command the Lord Chamberlain.

CyrilVladisla · #**2713** 03-23-2018, 04:41 PM

Do the wedding invitations indicate an RSVP? If Yes, what is the amount of time that the invited person has to respond?

**Somebody** · #**2714** 03-23-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Countessmeout

I agree. I am a 36 year old single woman, it feels bizarre to be called Miss still. Traditionally Ms was a divorced woman (Meghan) or a woman who didn't take her husband's title. Now a days many women, adults with careers and lives of their own, feel Ms as the more appropriate term for a grown woman. Though I am happy for anything but when I get called 'Mam'. Nothing makes me feel older then when I get that.

Yes, and Meghan's first name is Rachel. If they were going to go full formal, it would have been Prince Henry and Ms Rachel Markle. Kate has never been known by her middle name. It seems having the invitation sent by Charles and not the queen, and simple touches like the names used, little less formal.

Would full formal have been to use full names so Henry Charles Albert David) and Rachel Meghan? However, they didn't do that for previous royal marriages either. The invitation is consistent with the engagement announcement.

**Somebody** · #**2715** 03-23-2018, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbruno

Personally, I like Rachel better than Meghan, but I agree that, if she has used Meghan as her primary given name for most of her life, she is not going to change it now.

For all of her life (except for Suits).

jacqui24 · #**2716** 03-23-2018, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

Do the wedding invitations indicate an RSVP? If Yes, what is the amount of time that the invited person has to respond?

Yes. RSVPs are to be sent to Lord Chamberlain's office. I'm assuming there is some etiquette rule that's not explicitly stated as to when RSVPs to be sent back?

HereditaryPrincess · #**2717** 03-23-2018, 05:16 PM

Regarding the wedding cake; I expected Harry and Meghan to choose a more unconventional filling though lemon and elderflower is quite unusual. I suspect that their wedding will be more modern than William and Catherine's, especially since Harry is lower down in the line of succession so he has more of a freedom (for the future king one expects to have a rather traditional wedding, IMO). I'm a Brit who has always disliked fruit cake, and when I was little I was highly disappointed when I ate some at weddings thinking it was chocolate

I'm glad that Harry and Meghan have gone for something a little different.

xenobia · #**2718** 03-23-2018, 05:34 PM

I have two names (let's say Maria Elisabeth). I've always been Elisabeth. Throughout Scandinavia, it's very common. I understand from this discussion that it's not the same thing in the UK.

Jacknch · #**2719** 03-23-2018, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jacqui24

Yes. RSVPs are to be sent to Lord Chamberlain's office. I'm assuming there is some etiquette rule that's not explicitly stated as to when RSVPs to be sent back?

I would imagine that the formal invitation will be accompanied by an information sheet detailing things like when the RSVP needs to be returned by. I'm guessing it needs to be done a few weeks prior to the wedding.

Andy T · #**2720** 03-23-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by xenobia

I have two names (let's say Maria Elisabeth). I've always been Elisabeth. Throughout Scandinavia, it's very common. I understand from this discussion that it's not the same thing in the UK.

It's not at all uncommon in the UK. I know a single family in which the grandfather, 3 children, 3 spouses, and 2 grandchildren have been called by their second/middle names since birth.