Harry and Meghan: Wedding Suggestions and Musings - Page 128

burbankstorylady · #**2541** 03-20-2018, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter

No one cares if Mbruno has a neg opinion abot it....most folks are reacting to the comments made by others talking about this causing a diplomatic incident (go read all the posts) and how it's going to cause some break in British society because she's not choosing fruitcake.

LaRae

OK, I just noticed that an awful lot of people were just piling on, as if each person wanted to make sure it was known that they too disagreed with the dissenter. "Look at me! I'm with the crowd on this one! I have the right thoughts!" And reading it I was just like, all right, enough already! We got it, Mbruno's opinion bad, everyone else's good!

Cocoasneeze · #**2542** 03-20-2018, 04:06 PM

Yeah, I replied to a comment about this being Meghan's diplomatic mistake.

I'm taking cake decorating classes right now, and according to our teacher, fruit cakes aren't very popular any more, hardly any fruit cake orders from her bakery for weddings.

Pranter · #**2543** 03-20-2018, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tatianacressida

OK, I just noticed that an awful lot of people were just piling on, as if each person wanted to make sure it was known that they too disagreed with the dissenter. "Look at me! I'm with the crowd on this one! I have the right thoughts!" And reading it I was just like, all right, enough already! We got it, Mbruno's opinion bad, everyone else's good!

It's not about Mbruno's opinion. Lots of posts that have nothing to do with his/her comments.

LaRae

ACO · #**2544** 03-20-2018, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gawin

I don't like fruitcake either but I suspect the British version is much nicer than the shellac-ed version you get in the U.S., or least the ones I've attempted to eat.

I've had it in London too. Not my thing. As I said, gross. Sorry to the lovers out there.

Though my grandmother loves it. Just personal taste.

AlowVera · #**2545** 03-20-2018, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wyevale

THIS is the traditional British Fruitcake.. used as Christmas Cake, and 'scaled up' in Tiers for Weddings and Christenings..

I've NO idea what 'passes' for Fruitcake in the USA, but I assure you THIS is delectable..

https://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/...mas-fruit-cake

It looks very rich and perfect for a winter wedding. But I think that for a spring wedding perhaps they want something more light.

Iolanthe · #**2546** 03-20-2018, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter

Being Catholic we've been around our share of fruit cakes. There are whole orders of monks who make them to sell for Christmas every year.

I'll pass. Other folks rave about their wonderfull-ness (my husband is one of them)...

Oh, here I finally got a clue what you are all talking about

I googled it (better late than never!) and indeed this ominous fruitcake seems to be related to German (Christmas) Stollen. I would never have thougt of calling that a cake though. It's some kind of bread for me (for breakfast or brunch...) (One I don't really like and certainly wouldn't want as cake at my wedding TBH)
Different traditions are always interesting

But I can certainly understand Harry und Meghan that they would choose a more cake-like wedding cake

Pranter · #**2547** 03-20-2018, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Iolanthe

Oh, here I finally got a clue what you are all talking about

I googled it (better late than never!) and indeed this ominous fruitcake seems to be related to German (Christmas) Stollen. I would never have thougt of calling that a cake though. It's some kind of bread for me (for breakfast or brunch...) (One I don't really like and certainly wouldn't want as cake at my wedding TBH)
Different traditions are always interesting

But I can certainly understand Harry und Meghan that they would choose a more cake-like wedding cake

Assumption Abbey

The dreaded fruitcake (well unless you like them)!

I think Stollen is more like Pantone ...the American fruitcake is heavy and soaked in rum or brandy etc.

LaRae

ACO · #**2548** 03-20-2018, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter

No one cares if Mbruno has a neg opinion abot it....most folks are reacting to the comments made by others talking about this causing a diplomatic incident (go read all the posts) and how it's going to cause some break in British society because she's not choosing fruitcake.

LaRae

Yeah I'm still confused how it's a diplomatic incident.

Pranter · #**2549** 03-20-2018, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ACO

Yeah I'm still confused how it's a diplomatic incident.

It's not of course.

LaRae

evolvingdoors · #**2550** 03-20-2018, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter

Assumption Abbey

The dreaded fruitcake (well unless you like them)!

I think Stollen is more like Pantone ...the American fruitcake is heavy and soaked in rum or brandy etc.

LaRae

It is, they’re one of the same.
And North American fruitcake is basically English fruitcake.

Royal Suitor · #**2551** 03-20-2018, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ACO

Yeah I'm still confused how it's a diplomatic incident.

It's the same story that as a representative of the BRF Meghan should fully embrace its customs and traditions. Even if there's some question as to how much of a tradition fruitcake still is in British culture in general or the BRF (see: Edward/Sophie). It's all part of the Meghan as outsider/rule breaker media narrative.

In some ways I get it. If Meghan picks a non-British designer for her wedding dress all hell will break loose. I just didn't think cake merited this level of debate. In my mind, she's giving up enough to show she's embracing her new family and country. I'm fine if she wants to draw the line at refusing to serve bad cake.

Curbside · #**2552** 03-20-2018, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter

Assumption Abbey

The dreaded fruitcake (well unless you like them)!

I think Stollen is more like Pantone ...the American fruitcake is heavy and soaked in rum or brandy etc.

LaRae

Nas-TEE. I cannot imagine having this as my wedding cake.

AlowVera · #**2553** 03-20-2018, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DanyT

So does KP plan on announcing every time they book a vendor for the wedding? And whats with the full PR rundown of the baker? Yet another odd decision from the KP press office

Its not odd at all considering they did the same thing with William and Kate and they also have youtube interviews.

They are highlighting British vendors.

Pranter · #**2554** 03-20-2018, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Curbside

Nas-TEE. I cannot imagine having this as my wedding cake.

I think if it was suggested to engaged women in the U.S. it would be met with a look of horror.

LaRae

CyrilVladisla · #**2555** 03-20-2018, 05:08 PM

Could the wedding cake have tiers like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGRlBUVRxbk

**soapstar** · #**2556** 03-20-2018, 05:30 PM

I've deleted a number of snarky posts/comments. These type of insults are disruptive and add nothing to the discussion. There is a way to disagree, without belittling the opinions of your fellow members. Thanks.

Mbruno · #**2557** 03-20-2018, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter

It's not about Mbruno's opinion. Lots of posts that have nothing to do with his/her comments.

LaRae

Besides, it was not my opinion. I couldn't care less if they have fruitcake or lemon sponge cake. I was just pointing out that, judging from the British press and online comments, that is an issue in the UK and I was trying to make an impartial analysis on why it would be so based on what the RF represents as a national symbol.

Unfortunately, Meghan's fans on the forum interpreted my comments as me attacking Meghan, or blaming her for this debacle.

In any case, she is the one who knew the chef and had interviewed her for her blog. It is fair to say that the cake was probably her idea and not Harry's, and that Harry went along with it, or simply didn't care.

akina21 · #**2558** 03-20-2018, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by evolvingdoors

Fondant has quality levels. It is not supposed to be super thick not super thin.
And yes it tastes better than most buttercreams made by most pastry chefs in the US (let alone the kind sold in grocery stores)
I know a cake decorator who only makes fondant covered cakes, he charges accordingly, his clientele are of a certain social-economic status and higher.

Hence why i’m surprised at the buttercream for the cake. Also buttercream is not that popular in California as it is on the east coast and in the middle of America, or Canada.

I peel off fondant . Not my taste, it's just sugar and sweet without any flavour .

PetticoatLane · #**2559** 03-20-2018, 06:01 PM

I will admit to being somewhat irrationally sad if there's no fruitcake. Just about every wedding I go to at least has one layer of lovely fruitcake.

Almost more important than the tradition is what a cake like this represents - this was something that people ate on extremely special occasions (like weddings and Xmas) because the ingredients in bygone days were super expensive. Some of the spices involved came from South East Asia for example and were pretty rare. It was the most special cake you could have and it kept incredibly well so some of it would be set aside for future special family occasions.

Lemon and elderflower sponge doesn't really have the same resonance for me.

AlowVera · #**2560** 03-20-2018, 06:03 PM

At this point I don't think there is anything MM can do that won't be called out by the press. When she honored the Queens tradition by being confirmed and baptized her motives where torn apart and questioned, when she sings the national anthem a reporter noted that she was a minute late joining in. When she makes a personal choice at the private reception she is called out for not honoring traditions even though Sophie and Edward made similar wedding cake choices. At this point I hope Meghan realizes that when you can't win it is best to chuck it all and be your own self!!