Harry and Meghan: Tour of Southern Africa - September 23-October 2, 2019 - Page 6

Lumutqueen · #**101** 06-28-2019, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Elenath

Ofcourse it started. Doesn’t maternity leave always start right after the baby is born?
People are now criticising her for things that might happen, but haven’t happened yet? Maybe they should wait a bit.

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Originally Posted by JR76

In many countries maternity leave starts before the actual birth. In the UK it starts at the earliest 11 weeks before the calculated week of birth while in my home country of Sweden it's possible for it to start 60 days before the calculated date of birth.

Thanks JR76.

What I was saying was that we didn't know when Meghans maternity leave started, normally it starts before the birth in the UK, so there's no reason for us to know when it's ending.

Lilyflo · #**102** 06-28-2019, 03:21 PM

I don't think BRF women take 'maternity leave' as per employees. They take some time off & then do occasional morning/evening engagements, gradually increasing their workload as it fits around their family time. There isn't a start & finish date & there are no rules or protocols about this as far as I'm aware.

**Somebody** · #**103** 06-28-2019, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilyflo

I don't think BRF women take 'maternity leave' as per employees. They take some time off & then do occasional morning/evening engagements, gradually increasing their workload as it fits around their family time. There isn't a start & finish date & there are no rules or protocols about this as far as I'm aware.

Exactly. I expect Meghan to slowly start picking up engagement after summer. She already did her first one earlier this month.

HereditaryPrincess · #**104** 06-28-2019, 03:36 PM

Great to hear this tour has been confirmed. I wonder if Archie will join in with any of the activities - obviously, if they're baby appropriate.

Pranter · #**105** 06-28-2019, 09:07 PM

There is no pleasing some ppl. Complaining because she is going to represent the country on a tour?

Who says she has to take 6 months maternity leave? My bet is she will take 3 months and we will see her back to work in August. It's known she was still working (meetings etc) after she stopped going to public events late in her pregnancy. Wouldn't surprise me to hear she's doing something similar later this month.

Not sure what the deal is about them taking Archie..this is hardly something new within the BRF and even other Royal houses.

Is there anything she does that finds favor with the naysayers?

LaRae

theroyalfly · #**106** 06-28-2019, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter

There is no pleasing some ppl. Complaining because she is going to represent the country on a tour?

Who says she has to take 6 months maternity leave? My bet is she will take 3 months and we will see her back to work in August. It's known she was still working (meetings etc) after she stopped going to public events late in her pregnancy. Wouldn't surprise me to hear she's doing something similar later this month.

Not sure what the deal is about them taking Archie..this is hardly something new within the BRF and even other Royal houses.

Is there anything she does that finds favor with the naysayers?

LaRae

Well, you were on point. It's true everything that H&M is displeasure to everyone. It's sick. If Meghan feels she is okay to work before that 6 months thingy, just deal with it.

As with, Master Archie, let's have confidence in the couple.

JessRulz · #**107** 06-29-2019, 02:03 AM

As we are going around in circles and have past the point of substance, this thread will be closed for the time being to avoid a dozen plus pages of repetition well before the tour even begins.

Madame Verseau · #**108** 09-01-2019, 08:16 AM

New from Sussexroyal

https://mobile.twitter.com/scobie/st...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

JessRulz · #**109** 09-06-2019, 08:12 AM

Official info released today by BP:

-- Visit will take place from September 23 to October 2
-- Begins in Cape Town, South Africa and finishes in Johannesburg, South Africa
-- Harry will visit Angola (September 26-28), Malawi (September 30-October 1) and Botswana (September 26) alone
-- Meghan will remain in South Africa, doing some engagements while Harry travels to the other countries
-- Archie will remain in South Africa with Meghan
-- Departure from Johannesburg on October 2
-- Both arrival and departure to South Africa will be private, no regular tour arrival photo op

https://twitter.com/byEmilyAndrews/s...43872056807424
https://twitter.com/byEmilyAndrews/s...46100813443072

Fijiro · #**110** 09-06-2019, 08:56 AM

Their Tour of Southern Africa dates and itinerary have been announced! That's great.
Archie is four-months old today. I know his parents and doctors have taken care of immunization before travelling, but I still say he's too young to travel outside of the continent.
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ACO · #**111** 09-06-2019, 09:05 AM

Sounds like a great itinerary. Balanced.

tausi · #**112** 09-06-2019, 09:17 AM

South Africa is going through a huge turmoil right now and foreigners are not very welcome. Many comments in local newspaper don't want this visit to happen as they prefer any security resources to be dedicated to the ongoing country crisis. I will be interested to see how everything will play out.

**Ista** · #**113** 09-06-2019, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tausi

South Africa is going through a huge turmoil right now and foreigners are not very welcomed. Many comments in local newspaper don't want this visit to happen as they prefer any security resources to be dedicated to the ongoing country crisis. It will be interested to see how it plays out.

Could that be why the arrival and departure are private? Unless they are arriving in the middle of the night, that does seem a little odd to me. Usually the arrival photos are one of the fun things to look forward to in these royal tours--the departure photos less so.

tausi · #**114** 09-06-2019, 10:21 AM

Ista -

That's a good point. It might be either for security reasons or also to avoid celebrations associated with arrivals (as we have seen for all royals country tours in the past). it is probably better not to have too much fun fare in times where the country is going through such a difficult time.

Pranter · #**115** 09-06-2019, 10:32 AM

I know someone in SA ..they follow the Royals and have not seen anything negative or really much coverage about them coming at all. She said the 'turmoil' is not across the whole region, mostly located to one general area. She should know, they were farmers and have lost several friends during this continued situation there.

I'm going to guess the Sussexes are not going to be in that area.

LaRae

tausi · #**116** 09-06-2019, 10:41 AM

I have many family members who live in South Africa. The situation is very serious and its not to be underestimated as "focused on a particular region". Every South African and many other Africans (myself included though living in USA almost all my life) are in somber mood.
The issue is serious enough that South Africa is closing its embassy in Nigeria as they are scared in retaliation.

Anyway, my prayers to the people of South Africa. I hope everyone stays safe and long term solution is found for the people of South Africa.

Curryong · #**117** 09-06-2019, 11:00 AM

I'm sure that the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office have been keeping a close eye on the situation in South Africa. If the atmosphere there was considered too tumultuous then this tour would not be going ahead.

I'm looking forward to it, and seeing all the different engagements the Sussexes will be participating in, together and separately. Might even see something of baby Archie as well!

**Heavs** · #**118** 09-06-2019, 11:06 AM

That sounds like an interesting tour, I'd almost forgotten they were going on it with all the inanity of the silly season. I have a friend who does a lot of work in Angola, I wonder if she knows anywhere Harry's visiting. Be interesting to see Meghan do solo engagements in SA as well.

I suspect even if the arrivals/departures are private for security reasons (or other official reasons) they'll be blamed on Harry and Meghan, even though they've shown no problems with them on any other tour or engagement. I hope we do get some updated pictures of Archie as well though.

Duke of Marmalade · #**119** 09-06-2019, 11:12 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...-revealed.html
further details on the tour, I guess they will take every precaution on this trip. The pictures it will generate are super important for the image of the monarchy.

Mbruno · #**120** 09-06-2019, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tausi

I have many family members who live in South Africa. The situation is very serious and its not to be underestimated as "focused on a particular region". Every South African and many other Africans (myself included though living in USA almost all my life) are in somber mood.
The issue is serious enough that South Africa is closing its embassy in Nigeria as they are scared in retaliation.

Anyway, my prayers to the people of South Africa. I hope everyone stays safe and long term solution is found for the people of South Africa.

The conflict is mostly between native South Africans and other (black) African immigrants from neighboring countries. European visitors should be OK. Furthermore, I don't see any major risk for Meghan and Archie as long as they stay in Cape Town. The main risk actually is taking a 5-month baby in a long-distance trip across the world, but that has nothing to do with South Africa specifically.

I am sure there are South African members on TRF who can comment further.