Harry and Meghan: Relationship Musings

[Lady Nimue]

Originally Posted by gerry

Agree: Ms Markle has no plans to let this one get away!

I think it's the other way around: Harry is making sure 'this one' (Meghan) isn't getting away. There is always one who is more into it than the other, and in this case I think that one is Harry, which must be very pleasant for Meghan, but she also has to be very careful because of that. JMO. We clearly all see differently.

BTW all the comments regarding what one does to 'advance one's career' in this business, I'm not going to engage except to say that the major difference between the UK and the L.A. situation is money. Hands down L.A. is oodles more money which is what draws actors here. But as for opportunities, those are everywhere, and Meghan is at a stage where she can parley wherever her base is. Just the way I see it, not claiming I know much of anything in the matter.

[FashionMaven]

Changing subjects for a minute - has Harry been sighted since the alleged tea with Meghan and HMQ? Has he been to any events since that tea happened?

Was it the Attitude awards?

[Pranter]

Originally Posted by FashionMaven

Speaking as a woman with a corporate job - I don't typically leave one job until I am 100% sure about my new job.

That's why I think Meghan and Harry have had conversations about this and have an understanding.

I think they've had an understanding for quite some time now.



LaRae

Originally Posted by FashionMaven

Changing subjects for a minute - has Harry been sighted since the alleged tea with Meghan and HMQ? Has he been to any events since that tea happened?

Was it the Attitude awards?

No..she's been in Canada and he's been very visible doing events in the U.K. several times since then...and currently in Denmark on a official engagement as well.


LaRae

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by FashionMaven

Changing subjects for a minute - has Harry been sighted since the alleged tea with Meghan and HMQ? Has he been to any events since that tea happened?

Was it the Attitude awards?

Right now Harry is kind of on the busy side charming the people of Denmark and if I'm not mistaken, has been to several other events rather recently. He's not holed up somewhere or out of the public eye. Check the British Royal Family Current Events thread. I think there's quite a bit there.

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...-41743-22.html

[Curryong]

Originally Posted by Lady Nimue

I think it's the other way around: Harry is making sure 'this one' (Meghan) isn't getting away. There is always one who is more into it than the other, and in this case I think that one is Harry, which must be very pleasant for Meghan, but she also has to be very careful because of that. JMO. We clearly all see differently.

BTW all the comments regarding what one does to 'advance one's career' in this business, I'm not going to engage except to say that the major difference between the UK and the L.A. situation is money. Hands down L.A. is oodles more money which is what draws actors here. But as for opportunities, those are everywhere, and Meghan is at a stage where she can parley wherever her base is. Just the way I see it, not claiming I know much of anything in the matter.

Considering that Meghan has herself flown into London from Canada several times since this romance has become public and Harry has had comparatively few trips to Toronto (more difficult for him) I can't see that he is more into her than Meghan is into him at all.

Meghan did stay for quite a long time at KP with Harry and they were equally fond and affectionate with each other at the IG. It wasn't as if she was sitting stiffly, showing little emotion while he kissed her at the closing ceremony. They were looking at each other, smiling, having little chats. Both of them are equally in love as far as I can see.

And IMO LA would be the natural place for Meghan to return to if she wanted roles in TV or film. I believe that she will settle in the UK, though not for career purposes, and an engagement is imminent before the end of the year.

[Countessmeout]

If Meghan was looking to continue her career (and by that I mean her acting career not a future royal one), she wouldn't move plain and simple. There is no benefit to being in London. She has said more then once the struggle of getting work as an actress. She wouldn't leave suits if she wasn't planning a move. Even if she gets money from sindication, actors don't leave good roles unless they have something to go for.

If she was after Harry to further her career, London would be dumb. Though the UK has a great movie/tv base, she would be starting from scratch again. In the US she could use her notoriety from dating Harry, to get bigger roles. It worked for Cress, and unlike Cress, Meghan isn't starting from the bottom. She already does tv movies and has done things like hosted Chopped. She wouldn't have dropped the tig, or her clothing line either. The tig, and her notoriety, she could have wrangled a show on food network or network tv. Guest spots on things like the chew and the view.

She obviously studied theater but that doesn't mean she is a great stage actress. Being a good college actress doesn't make her accomplished. For all we know she could have been the wheeping willow in wind in the willows in college plays. Or she could have been the lead role. Either way she isn't likely to land a place in a west end production in London fresh off tv.

I stand by my position he hasn't proposed yet IMO. But they have talked it, and she knows it is coming. Just waiting until done her show to take that step. When she gets to London her focus will be settling into London and into the life there with Harry, and slowly into a new role.

And even if weddings are possible during Lent, a March wedding seems far fetched at this point. Even if it is a smaller royal wedding, it takes time to plan. Even normal weddings of joe and jane regular take time to plan. Things like dresses. Like guests and their availability. Like the fact we don't know when in April Kate is due and everyone seems to think we need to be cautious about weeks around.

[Lady Nimue]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

If Meghan was looking to continue her career (and by that I mean her acting career not a future royal one), she wouldn't move plain and simple. There is no benefit to being in London.

Not sure what you base these views on but okay. We all see things differently.

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

She has said more then once the struggle of getting work as an actress. She wouldn't leave suits if she wasn't planning a move. Even if she gets money from sindication, actors don't leave good roles unless they have something to go for.

Actors leave shows all the time. It's pretty monotonous work. It can get to be a rut. Just saying.

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

If she was after Harry to further her career, London would be dumb. Though the UK has a great movie/tv base, she would be starting from scratch again. In the US she could use her notoriety from dating Harry, to get bigger roles. It worked for Cress, and unlike Cress, Meghan isn't starting from the bottom. She already does tv movies and has done things like hosted Chopped. She wouldn't have dropped the tig, or her clothing line either. The tig, and her notoriety, she could have wrangled a show on food network or network tv. Guest spots on things like the chew and the view.

You seem to feel you have a bead on how the business works in detail. I disagree with aspects of what you state but maybe it's impacted by different perspectives of the business. Just curious: what part of the business are you in?

[Countessmeout]

I base it on my opinions as anyone else does here. Meghan is not a major celebrity, nor is she a household name as an actress in UK. She would be starting from scratch for the most part there.

If you have a reason to believe she would give up a career, a blog, clothing line and more to try acting in London, please share. I don't see you offering.

As for leaving shows....actors usually do when they have another opportunity infront of them. Majority of actors don't leave shows because they are bored. Meghan has said that she has struggled to find work as an actress in the past. She has already shut down her other two sources of income. If she was planning to quit the show and remain in acting, she wouldn't cut herself off at the knees and cut off all sources of income she has currently.

You disagree with what? Based on what? What is your inside information If you are going to demand proof of opinions, and expertise perhaps you should be offering the same.

[Lady Nimue]

Peace, Countessmeout. Not singling you out, not asking for 'credentials', just was honestly wondering. You seemed to be countering what I was suggesting (as are others) as 'not correct' so I was wondering where that perspective originates.

I am not here for arguments. Truly. This is a hobby and I intend to have fun, not gnarly back-and-forths. A lot is stated regarding the business that seems to me a bit off, from my position. Does not mean I am right and others are wrong, only that sometimes the rationales seem more like myths rather than facts. If I present my views I get sandbagged with purported facts and a higher perspective/understanding. It's kinda an interesting experience. 'Nuf said.

[ladongas]

Regular posters on this thread have been forthcoming and consistent with their reasonings as to why a royal engagement is nigh. Those who disagree, not so much! I would be very interested in knowing why some posters believe there is unlikely to be an engagement between Harry and Meghan. If you ‘just have a feeling’, please explain that feeling. This would make the discussion more interesting. Thanks.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by ladongas

Regular posters on this thread have been forthcoming and consistent with their reasonings as to why a royal engagement is nigh. Those who disagree, not so much! I would be very interested in knowing why some posters believe there is unlikely to be an engagement between Harry and Meghan. If you ‘just have a feeling’, please explain that feeling. This would make the discussion more interesting. Thanks.

I agree-I asked this yesterday. I would like to understand why those who don't see Meghan & Harry as a couple working together to a mutual goal of marriage feel that way. What do you see that we apparently don't to lead you to that conclusion? Why do you think Meghan gave up/is giving up all her jobs if not to willingly prepare for a totally new life?

[Skippy]

I would just like to say that one is not always able to explain why they feel a certain way. Some people have difficulty in translating their feelings into words.
Those who can are of course welcome to do so

[Denville]

Perhaps some of us feel that while Meg may be indeed planning towards a new life, that does not mean that the new life will work out. That she may sincerley wish to marry Harry but may find that such a different life isn't easy for her.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Denville

Perhaps some of us feel that while Meg may be indeed planning towards a new life, that does not mean that the new life will work out. That she may sincerley wish to marry Harry but may find that such a different life isn't easy for her.

I'm not sure what she'll find out between now and an engagement that she hasn't seen since this relationship was brought to light.

[AlowVera]

Originally Posted by jacqui24

I'm not sure what she'll find out between now and an engagement that she hasn't seen since this relationship was brought to light.

The media has practically raked her mom and dad over the coals, they have disparaged her livelihood, they have disparaged her reputation, she has been called every name on her social media platforms, websites have created unfounded lies and rumors......if they have made it to this point they can survive anything.

[ladongas]

Originally Posted by Denville

Perhaps some of us feel that while Meg may be indeed planning towards a new life, that does not mean that the new life will work out. That she may sincerley wish to marry Harry but may find that such a different life isn't easy for her.

Actually, several people have pointed this out. I’m interested in the meaning of the unexpressed ‘feeling’ some posters have mentioned. If I say, I have a feeling it’s going to rain this afternoon, my feeling is based on grey sky, cool moist air, and distant rumblings of thunder.

[Curryong]

It will be interesting to read why others have this 'off' feeling. I feel that it's been a shock. A shock that Meghan isn't English, that she certainly isn't 'glossy posse', she's an actress (people do question actors sincerity in their private lives,) there's the fact that she is older not years younger than Harry, that she is divorced after a very short marriage. Some of her relatives haven't exactly been silent, nor have the British tabloids been kind, especially the Fail. There has been a lot of murkiness attributed to her one way or another on Twitter etc. Maybe people who feel that way have picked up on that.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by AlowVera

The media has practically raked her mom and dad over the coals, they have disparaged her livelihood, they have disparaged her reputation, she has been called every name on her social media platforms, websites have created unfounded lies and rumors......if they have made it to this point they can survive anything.

And headlines that basically insinuated she's in porn. Some of the old time royal commentators have said that royal gf is an impossible place to be. You can't hit back, but you don't exactly have the full on support of the royal family either. I think based on the way she's changed her life so far, she seems to have a very good idea of what royal life will entail.

[Denville]

Quite simply IMO there are a lot of issues that mean that Meghan might not find royal life easy to fit into. it isn't easy and being a girlfriend is a lot different to beign a full time Princess as she will be.
Being a girlfriend yes she will get abuse, prying intot her life and criticism over ridiculous things as Kate has done...but being a royal wife is going to be even harder.
She's an actress and actresses like to act, so she may find giving up her work hard to do even if she thinks it will be "do-able". Life is still formal in the RF even if not as much as it was say 20 or 30 years ago. She's American, so she has the cultural adjustment to make... and she has a divorce in her past.

[Somebody]

I don't think royal life is easy to fit into for anyone. So yes, of course, Meghan will have to adjust and find her way which in some ways might be easier and in other ways might be harder than expected.

Our former queen famously preferred foreign brides to 'local' brides, especially for the more senior royals as she considered it much harder and more problematic for someone from the country itself to move from being a 'normal citizen' (with lots of 'citizens' knowing you as such) to becoming part of the royal family of your own country. A bride from abroad would not have that same problem as she will have to adjust to a new country as part of the royal family and in that way learn the 'new customs' from within...