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10-22-2017, 01:21 AM
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Media was involved in Cressida and Chelsea, and obviously they went back.  |
The media was involved with the blonde women he was linked to any time he stepped near a woman. Snapping photos is not the same.
This is different. Having released public statements. Meghan having spoken in a magazine about it. The press is directly involved more then any previous relationship Harry has had.
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10-22-2017, 02:10 AM
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I thought the Guardian article was pretty poor to be honest.
Meghan is an attractive intelligent woman who has done well in this world but that wouldn't matter at all if Harry was the type of royal described in that article.
It completely ignores Harry's role in all this, the type of person he is. Meghan hasn't got to this point on her own.
And Meghan will have enough to cope with without anyone trying to make her some sort of one-woman rescue mission for the BRF who don't need rescuing.
Articles like this are, to say the least, unhelpful.
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Everyone knows Harry plays a big role in this. I’m just glad to see something different going on in a royal relationship and the prospect of other people of a diverse background can see a person they can relate to for once.
No, the royal family does not need to be saved, but a breath of fresh air in the royal family is always good to see and it doesn’t hurt anyone either.
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10-22-2017, 05:29 AM
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Yeah that side of her family - Doria's family - haven't spoken to the media unlike her half siblings and the other Markles who can't seem to shut up.
The nephew could have not spoken to the media if he wanted to reach out to Meghan. Sorry looks desperate and money grubbing. Have you seen what sister has done? Set up a gofundme for a new house. I know she suffers from MS but her Meghan are estranged. She expects her sibling to look after her which is funny as she has grown children who can look after her but no they don't talk to her either.
If and when Harry and Meghan do get married, I hope it is only her mother's side and her dad show up as family.
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10-22-2017, 06:11 AM
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Black brits still carry the scars of British colonialism & tend to view the royals less favorably.
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I'm bound to say that is absolutely NOT my experience. Through the charity I work with in London I talk to many 'Commonwealth Brits'.. from ex colonies in Africa, the Indian sub-continent and the Caribbean and [almost] 'to a man' they came to 'the Mother Country' to work and make a life here, and appreciate Britain's institutions and way of life. The VAST majority tell me they are Royalists and [particularly] appreciate HMQs commitment to the Commonwealth.
I know this is 'anecdotal', but it is my experience.
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10-22-2017, 06:28 AM
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Yeah that side of her family - Doria's family - haven't spoken to the media unlike her half siblings and the other Markles who can't seem to shut up.
The nephew could have not spoken to the media if he wanted to reach out to Meghan. Sorry looks desperate and money grubbing. Have you seen what sister has done? Set up a gofundme for a new house. I know she suffers from MS but her Meghan are estranged. She expects her sibling to look after her which is funny as she has grown children who can look after her but no they don't talk to her either.
If and when Harry and Meghan do get married, I hope it is only her mother's side and her dad show up as family.
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The less said about the much older siblings the better. She has not had contact with them in over 8 years and it seems to be for good reason. It would be a real shame if MM is judged by the attention grabbing antics of this side of the family and not the mother's side who have not said a word.
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10-22-2017, 06:36 AM
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I'm bound to say that is absolutely NOT my experience. Through the charity I work with in London I talk to many 'Commonwealth Brits'.. from ex colonies in Africa, the Indian sub-continent and the Caribbean and [almost] 'to a man' they came to 'the Mother Country' to work and make a life here, and appreciate Britain's institutions and way of life. The VAST majority tell me they are Royalists and [particularly] appreciate HMQs commitment to the Commonwealth.
I know this is 'anecdotal', but it is my experience.
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Most of my friends who are of Caribbean descent strongly identify as republican and have a very unfavourable view of the monarchy. These are people below the age of 35 so I guess it is a generational thing.
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10-22-2017, 06:42 AM
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The less said about the much older siblings the better. She has not had contact with them in over 8 years and it seems to be for good reason. It would be a real shame if MM is judged by the attention grabbing antics of this side of the family and not the mother's side who have not said a word.
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Sadly some folk already made up their minds about Meghan after the sister's initial interview with the Sun. So dumb.
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10-22-2017, 07:32 AM
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I'm bound to say that is absolutely NOT my experience. Through the charity I work with in London I talk to many 'Commonwealth Brits'.. from ex colonies in Africa, the Indian sub-continent and the Caribbean and [almost] 'to a man' they came to 'the Mother Country' to work and make a life here, and appreciate Britain's institutions and way of life. The VAST majority tell me they are Royalists and [particularly] appreciate HMQs commitment to the Commonwealth.
I know this is 'anecdotal', but it is my experience.
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I don't doubt that there are some black brits who do view the monarchy favorably, however they are largely in the minority. And as someone mentioned there is also a generational gap. The older generation are more sentimental to the Queen because she has been the figurehead for such a long time, but that is where their affection ends. The other royals simply do not garner the same respect.
The fact is you hardly ever see blacks or asians lining up the streets to celebrate royal occasions largely because of the history of oppression & inherited privilege that it represents.
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10-22-2017, 07:55 AM
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Britain is like what? 88% White? Of course they would make up the majority of people lining up to celebrate royal occasion.
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10-22-2017, 08:09 AM
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Britain is like what? 88% White? Of course they would make up the majority of people lining up to celebrate royal occasion.
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Less than 50% of London's population is White. London is the place where most royal celebrations take place. There are also other areas in Britain where non-whites are the majority. The fact that Whites make up the overall majority in Britain still doesn't change the original point that blacks or asians hardly ever celebrate royal occasions.
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10-22-2017, 08:25 AM
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I just read an online article that suggested this chapel as wedding venue:
Royal Military Chapel at Wellington Barracks at St James’s Park.
Given Harry's military background and interest it seems quite suitable.
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10-22-2017, 08:26 AM
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Meghan's relatives running their mouths to the press is the most disgusting display I've seen. I don't know which is worse - the trashing of her or the bragging of their closeness to her in hopes of getting an invitation to the wedding if it happens. Some people claiming to be friends are on the band wagon. As for Samantha, she's the worse. But they are talking to the gossip press. If there is an announcement the more serious press in the US will run the story. If CNN and others news outlets run across these relatives and thier statements a vetting process will most likely take place. If the mainstream media come up with proof that what they have claimed are lies they are done.
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10-22-2017, 08:46 AM
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my guess on all this stuff is:
I think they got engaged in August
I think it will be announced first week of dec...to give her time to have her stuff packed and shipped to the uk...so she can settle into his place a little bit.
I think they will get married at St georges in either late june or july
and i think its possible they air it....but i def dont think that is guaranteed
and i do think its already being planned..
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10-22-2017, 10:43 AM
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I'm actually really excited for this program (sans the "exclusive interviews" part). It's apparently produced by the same producers of 'Who Do You Think You Are' which is an excellent genealogy series, a favorite of mine. I think I've seen all episodes of the USA, UK, and Australian versions.
I've looked through an online family tree of Meghan's and found many interesting ancestors, so I'm curious to know how accurate that tree is and which stories the program will choose to focus on.
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10-22-2017, 11:21 AM
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Let's focus on Meghan and Harry please. The cultural make-up of the United Kingdom or of the people forming crowds at royal celebrations really has very little do with the subject. With regard Meghan's family let's stick to her immediate family or those we know she has a relationship with. Thank you.
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I just read an online article that suggested this chapel as wedding venue:
Royal Military Chapel at Wellington Barracks at St James’s Park.
Given Harry's military background and interest it seems quite suitable.
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I thought about it too, it's a very nice (yet small) venue. Two points concerning the place :
- It's the church where Camilla married Andrew Parkers Bowles (not a big deal, but a good story for the press anyway).
- The 2007 Memorial service for Diana was held here.
If some people on this thread are considering the Saint George's Chapel at Windsor as a second rate venue for a wedding, i just can't imagine their reaction for the Guard's chapel ...
In fact, if you think about it, it would be a logical and nice choice ...
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10-22-2017, 12:32 PM
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Off the wall question, but has anyone seen an older photo of Meghan pre-Suits with a different hairstyle? I suspect that she is a natural "curly girl" and would love to see a photo to confirm my theory.
Mods-Sorry I know this has nothing to do with her relationship with Harry, but this appears to be the only thread for her at this point in time. Please feel free to move it to the appropriate thread.
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10-22-2017, 12:42 PM
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10-22-2017, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nico
I thought about it too, it's a very nice (yet small) venue. Two points concerning the place :
- It's the church where Camilla married Andrew Parkers Bowles (not a big deal, but a good story for the press anyway).
- The 2007 Memorial service for Diana was held here.
If some people on this thread are considering the Saint George's Chapel at Windsor as a second rate venue for a wedding, i just can't imagine their reaction for the Guard's chapel ...
In fact, if you think about it, it would be a logical and nice choice ...
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The main concern for many with St George is the size. Well the guard chapel is even smaller, it only seats 500 people.
Its highly unlikely they would use such a small setting, and one with no real royal connection other then one Diana memorial.
The only reason is logical is for people desperate for a London wedding as they think it will be more of a show.
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This article has photos of Meghan when she was younger.
