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Old 07-03-2020, 02:03 AM
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Those 'sources' may well have been speaking the truth. And the Sussexes aren't the first and certainly won't be the last royals in the BRF to leak their side of events and issues to 'friendly media'.
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Old 07-03-2020, 02:03 AM
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The York girls careers have literally nothing to do with who they are. Quite feat really. They managed nicely, much like Princess Margaret's children.

That a Meghan married into a situation she didn't understand and where she found herself out of depth, I sympathise with. I also think she is probably a lot more intelligent than many if not most royals. But this isn't the way to do it.
Meghan thought her star wattage harnessed with Harry's burnished Favorite Royal Lad image would be more important than the line of succession and the part it plays in Royal life.
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Old 07-03-2020, 02:15 AM
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Those 'sources' may well have been speaking the truth. And the Sussexes aren't the first and certainly won't be the last royals in the BRF to leak their side of events and issues to 'friendly media'.
But few other royals have combined it with a lawsuit against other media, and then, possibly inadvertently risk of getting the two mingled...without knowing all the in's and out's it seems that H&M are making their situation trickier for themselves..
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Old 07-03-2020, 05:24 AM
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It's a pivotal one because if she, as in the people speaking for her, put the letter in the public domain, it changes things massively to the other sides favour.
I think she's going to have a hard time getting away with the argument that she didn't know they were going to give that interview to People magazine because she hasn't sued the friends or People magazine. She was seemingly ok with this breach of copyright/privacy because the message was one she liked .
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Old 07-03-2020, 06:00 AM
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I think she's going to have a hard time getting away with the argument that she didn't know they were going to give that interview to People magazine because she hasn't sued the friends or People magazine. She was seemingly ok with this breach of copyright/privacy because the message was one she liked .
That is a very good point, or is it because they did not print the actual letter just brought it to the worlds attention with a summary of the contents.
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Old 07-03-2020, 06:40 AM
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I think she's going to have a hard time getting away with the argument that she didn't know they were going to give that interview to People magazine because she hasn't sued the friends or People magazine. She was seemingly ok with this breach of copyright/privacy because the message was one she liked .
I think there was something at the time of the War of the Wales, I am sure the press commission or whatever its name was or is at the time released a statement basically saying that both parties had been using the press to their own ends. I will try and find that on line.
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Old 07-03-2020, 06:43 AM
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I think there was something at the time of the War of the Wales, I am sure the press commission or whatever its name was or is at the time released a statement basically saying that both parties had been using the press to their own ends. I will try and find that on line.
I think, though I'm not sure, that the Press Commission referred to Diana but not to Charles. The phrase used was that Diana had "invaded her own privacy"
Re Meghan, I thought that she had authorized her friends to talk about the letter to her father etc, but now she's saying that she didn't? .
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Old 07-03-2020, 06:48 AM
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I think, though I'm not sure, that the Press Commission referred to Diana but not to Charles. The phrase used was that Diana had "invaded her own privacy"
Re Meghan, I thought that she had authorized her friends to talk about the letter to her father etc, but now she's saying that she didn't? .
That could be correct, I couldn't remember the exact detail but knew there had been a reference to using the press. I have been trying to find it on line.
We are still in partial lockdown plus it is pouring with rain, I will have a look.
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Old 07-03-2020, 06:51 AM
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okay - since we are completely ignoring the topic of the thread. I present my little bit

I t. Things are going great - popularity soaring and after tour of Australia releases that she has more control then she realizes. She fires the royal doctors and gets her own. They get their own PR company and split from the Cambridge household. Then they say they will not announce birth and will have a private family event and not announce the god parents and such. Everyone is a bit confused as the press and in turn the British public have been frozen out of a royal birth. But there was more going on there - I am thinking there was an exclusive TV talk, possibly Gayle King and an exclusive photo shot. There was something rather large that the Palace vetoed before Archie's birth.
And that was when they decided to leave. Think about it they had been approached by many offers of money, access and freebees that they wanted to accept and they have been told they couldn't. Harry starts seeing the problem as well - they are the most popular why cant they benefit from their hard work and it is their life why cant they live it the way they want. So they draw up the plan to became part time royals - allowing for them to accept these offers and do the exciting projects with celebrities that they have been offered.
It is possible you're right. I am not sure what was in Meg's mind or Harry's.. but i can't help thinking that this desire or plan to leave didn't just happen in the Autumn of 2019.. I'm not sure when it did happen but even though they don't seem to have thought it out that well, I think that yes, the desire/plan to leave started at least during her pregnancy... so it wasn't badly organized because it was a rushed plan, it was badly organised because they're not that smart.
I thought It was odd the way they behaved over the birth, and it did annoy the media, who became more unfriendly.. And I don't know why they could not have thrown the media the occasional bone.. except that... they knew they were going to leave and didn't care??
I can't understand why Harry DIDNT seem to make it clear to Meghan that being royal mean they could not work for themselves, if they were full time working royals.. and that they couldn't take media deals...
And I cant help feeling that some of it was Harry getting upset on his wife's behalf because he felt she was getting a lot of flak in the papers, and her saying" We don't have to put up with this, at least not full time. We can drop out, go part time.. and if we need money, we can make it for ourselves.."
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Old 07-03-2020, 06:52 AM
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That could be correct, I couldn't remember the exact detail but knew there had been a reference to using the press. I have been trying to find it on line.
We are still in partial lockdown plus it is pouring with rain, I will have a look.
Its possible that Charles was criticized as well but I think it was explicitly Diana.. who had denied that she'd been involved with the book "Diana Her true Story" but she had been briefing the media quite a lot..
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:04 AM
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Its possible that Charles was criticized as well but I think it was explicitly Diana.. who had denied that she'd been involved with the book "Diana Her true Story" but she had been briefing the media quite a lot..
There could be a similar risk with the current generation, IMo there have been leaks from very close to certain parties, this might all come back to bite.

I think also we need to be clear about legit comms between the press and the palaces, of course the royals want there message out. Quite often the sources although not named are close to the family but that is often to promote whatever the latest project is.
The danger is when the leaks as opposed to off the record briefings are to cause trouble
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:15 AM
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I think the plan is to come for KP comm team. The Times according to DM claims the comm team didn't defend because it was true. Ok. This is from the defendant and now the comm team may have to testify.
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:39 AM
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I think the plan is to come for KP comm team. The Times according to DM claims the comm team didn't defend because it was true. Ok. This is from the defendant and now the comm team may have to testify.

I think the KP comm team acted appropriately according to the law. The Duchess cannot demand that they defend her from an allegation that is true. If an allegation is factually true, by definition there is no libel, or am I missing something here?
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:42 AM
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Bingo. They can lose the lawsuit and still come out ahead financially. However, now it seems like they will not even lose the lawsuit and both sides know it
how would this work? they wouldn't have to pay the lawsuit fees but how would the DM benefit financially from wining it?

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Perhaps Covid-19 could turn out to be a blessing for this couple. If they were to lose the lawsuit that could be a stepping point in which H&M take stock of things and as they're still within "the year in review" by both sides (I'm assuming), it could be deemed that *because* of the virus and how its drastically changed things in 2020, they decide the best move is to return to the fold like the Prodigal Son.
i think there's no way they will be allowed back in as if nothing happened. had they spoken about their desire to leave, tried it out for a year, not caused drama, and then asked to come back... yes, why not?

but after all the drama and this? i don't see how all this can be reversed back. even if they do come back the reality is that they're highly unpopular.

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Unless the Queen and Charles decide they want the monarchy to end, they’ll not agree to Meghan ever setting foot in the UK. Harry is blood and will be publicly welcomed back and then hidden away somewhere for a few years
true. but i still can't see how harry would be allowed back if still married. unless, of course, this happened if they divorce, if meghan was out of the picture.
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:44 AM
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I dont think that Harry will split up with her.. but I think if Meg "has" to, she'll come back.
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:46 AM
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I think the plan is to come for KP comm team. The Times according to DM claims the comm team didn't defend because it was true. Ok. This is from the defendant and now the comm team may have to testify.
I was just reading that just now,

IMO it is now reading as almost like a justification for the story in the People magazine.

They wouldn't defend me so my friends did.
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:54 AM
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how would this work? they wouldn't have to pay the lawsuit fees but how would the DM benefit financially from wining it?



i think there's no way they will be allowed back in as if nothing happened. had they spoken about their desire to leave, tried it out for a year, not caused drama, and then asked to come back... yes, why not?

but after all the drama and this? i don't see how all this can be reversed back. even if they do come back the reality is that they're highly unpopular.


true. but i still can't see how harry would be allowed back if still married. unless, of course, this happened if they divorce, if meghan was out of the picture.
He is a British Citizen, they cannot stop him from coming back to this country. They might not give him a warm welcome or make life easier for him but they cannot stop him entering the country.

P>S. I do believe there are legal ways to stop a citizen coming back into the country, but I do not think Harry is on that road, it doesn't matter how much he has annoyed his granny.
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:59 AM
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I dont think that Harry will split up with her.. but I think if Meg "has" to, she'll come back.

My gut feeling is that Charles would take both Harry and Meghan back if they wanted back in. William, on the other hand, would not take Harry back unless he and Meghan split. Of course, I have no way to back up this "feeling".
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:18 AM
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how would this work? they wouldn't have to pay the lawsuit fees but how would the DM benefit financially from wining it?
IMO, they've already benefited financially just from people buying the DM or clicking on links to read about this court case. It's my prediction that they'll want to extend the actual court date as long as possible and keep their stories running. Some of the articles have even been turned into books.

That's why I said I think the DM knew a cash cow when it walked into their pasture.
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:22 AM
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My gut feeling is that Charles would take both Harry and Meghan back if they wanted back in. William, on the other hand, would not take Harry back unless he and Meghan split. Of course, I have no way to back up this "feeling".
Naa. I agree with others who say Meghan would no be welcomed back. She has now essentially attacked the royals with the tantrum she pulled with this new paperwork.
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