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Old 05-02-2020, 08:34 PM
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This is just my supposition but perhaps the lawyers they've selected to represent them are more experienced in international laws when it comes to dealing with infractions by a media publisher? We know the Sussexes are suing the MoS which, to my knowledge, is a British publication but its also been mentioned that the piece of evidence behind the whole case, Meghan's letter to her father, was first known about through People magazine which is a US based publication.

I would suppose also that the lawyers the RF uses are more concerned with British laws more so than international cases such as the Sussex case is.

I'm sure I'll be corrected here if I'm wrong.
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Old 05-02-2020, 09:14 PM
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Osipi, you are so often the voice of reason that it is a shame to take you up on the offer. However, there are no international laws at issue here.
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Old 05-02-2020, 09:25 PM
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Thanks. I was just voicing thoughts going through my head. OK. Scratch that thought.
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Old 05-02-2020, 09:25 PM
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They might not be of issue but, besides People, plenty of US publications and online sites paid British tabloids for their stories about the Sussexes which were often copied verbatim in their publications and shows.
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Old 05-03-2020, 05:54 AM
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I finally broke down and read the background leading up to the trial today. I’d avoided reading too much about it before because it’s always seemed clear to me that Meghan had the right to expect that the letter to her father would remain private and therefore I had no interest in reading it or the details that came out because of its publication.

I still haven’t read the letter but I’ve caught up on the info that was made public as part of the lead up to the trial, and today I broke down and read the DM for a synopsis of how things got to this point.

So first of all - what a mess! I hope this doesn’t end up going to trial. No one will come out looking well.

Second, I was struck by a comment from Meghan’s lawyer saying before the pre-wedding squabbling and publication of the letter, Meghan and her father had a “particularly warm” relationship. How did they go from that to no contact for two years? This isn’t something that should cause complete and permanent estrangement between two close family members who have always had a strong bond. Especially a parent and a child. Lots of fighting and venting and tears, yes. But no contact and not meeting a grandchild? Both sides now willing to testify against each other in a lawsuit?

If the lawyer isn’t exaggerating and Meghan and Thomas were close right up to the wedding I think both father and daughter are going to have huge regrets if they continue on this path.
That is something that has always niggled with me, why had Harry never met Thomas before the wedding. I do not intend to rehash old news but it is relevant if they are now claiming that they were close up to the wedding.
[..]
I have always found that strange.
[...]It doesn't add up.
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Old 05-03-2020, 09:02 AM
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This is just my supposition but perhaps the lawyers they've selected to represent them are more experienced in international laws when it comes to dealing with infractions by a media publisher? We know the Sussexes are suing the MoS which, to my knowledge, is a British publication but its also been mentioned that the piece of evidence behind the whole case, Meghan's letter to her father, was first known about through People magazine which is a US based publication.

I would suppose also that the lawyers the RF uses are more concerned with British laws more so than international cases such as the Sussex case is.

I'm sure I'll be corrected here if I'm wrong.
I am afraid that really doesn't roll as the UK is primarily concerned with case law on all matters so it will depend on what recent case findings are within the UK.

The only real leg Meghan has is over copyright. Which is the only real legal issue and a real one. However if the defendants manage to muddy the waters with the friends talking to People etc. They could very well win.
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Old 05-03-2020, 12:22 PM
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Wow. Omid admits that parts of the letter were written for the public as Meghan knew her father would publish it....it’s around the 52 second mark.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=lGUMX086wRM
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Old 05-03-2020, 12:26 PM
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That is something that has always niggled with me, why had Harry never met Thomas before the wedding. I do not intend to rehash old news but it is relevant if they are now claiming that they were close up to the wedding.
[..]
I have always found that strange.
[...]It doesn't add up.

It takes two to meet: the groom and the father-in-law and we have no idea what happen ed. Just sayin. (......)
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Old 05-03-2020, 12:33 PM
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Wow. Omid admits that parts of the letter were written for the public as Meghan knew her father would publish it....it’s around the 52 second mark.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=lGUMX086wRM

That are his thoughts about the letter and while they might be true, it is not about that that the case is about. Even if Maghan realised her father would sell the letter, according to copyright laws she could be sure the paper would not print it. Use the information from it, but not print it.

The letter was not "written for the public" at all! Even if Meghan was afraid the letter reached the media, she could be sure they would not print it but just use whatever was within the copyright laws like a short summery. It was not illegal for her father to sell the letter, but the publishing of most of the letter and the editing done by the paper is allegedly illegal - and that's what she is fighting.
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Old 05-03-2020, 12:40 PM
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Wow. Omid admits that parts of the letter were written for the public as Meghan knew her father would publish it....it’s around the 52 second mark.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=lGUMX086wRM
Since the courts do not have a time machine to go back time and read Meghan's thoughts when she wrote the letter, they will have to rely on things like this to determine what her intent was.

Given Omid's pro-Meghan stance and the fact that he has written a book about the Sussex pair on which they willingly collaborated, this is potentially very damaging for the case.
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Old 05-03-2020, 01:38 PM
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Since the courts do not have a time machine to go back time and read Meghan's thoughts when she wrote the letter, they will have to rely on things like this to determine what her intent was.

Given Omid's pro-Meghan stance and the fact that he has written a book about the Sussex pair on which they willingly collaborated, this is potentially very damaging for the case.

It's just hearsay. Nothing else. And even if, she could be rest assured that either the tabloids would behave lawfully or that she will get damages now.
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Old 06-05-2020, 01:22 PM
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It pains me deeply to post anything from the sun, but a quick search did not bring me up another source, i’m sure another website will catch up.

It looks like new documents from the lawsuit against the MOS were released yesterday -4th June (i do find it interesting it happened the same day as the George Floyd video being dropped- but i’m sure it is just a coincidence)


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews...pulated-press/

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MEG AMENDS Meghan Markle forced to drop claims her dad Thomas, 75, was ‘manipulated’ by the press
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MEGHAN Markle has cut arguments from her privacy case against the press after being forced into a climbdown by a High Court ruling.
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Documents released yesterday reveal her case will no longer allege her father was "manipulated" by the press.
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Old 06-05-2020, 02:21 PM
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To be honest, that doesn't surprise me at all. It would have been very hard, if not impossible, to prove manipulation.

As far as the coincidence between the back off of the manipulation angle against Mr. Markle and what is going on with the murder of George Floyd, there *is* a similarity in a way. As hard as it is to prove manipulation, its also the same with trying to prove that Mr. Chauvin premeditated the murder and hence no first degree murder charges.

When it comes to legal cases, you want to go into court on points that you can actually prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Unless the defended states outright that "I used Mr X" or "I planned to do this", intent is a very iffy thing to prove.
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Old 06-05-2020, 02:24 PM
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It was the court who ordered her to take it out; so, it seems that she just did as she was told by the high court. At least, I assume that also the other parts that he ordered to be removed have been removed.
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Old 06-05-2020, 09:39 PM
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Meghan practically had to prove Dad was blackmailed by the press to do the interviews. I think Markle as victim of the media was a tough sell, especially with Dad going on TV saying he wants to be paid for interviews.
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Old 06-05-2020, 09:49 PM
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So the trial is over?
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Old 06-05-2020, 10:39 PM
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So the trial is over?
No. It hasn't even started.
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Old 06-06-2020, 05:24 AM
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It was the court who ordered her to take it out; so, it seems that she just did as she was told by the high court. At least, I assume that also the other parts that he ordered to be removed have been removed.
I’m well aware of that.
That’s not my point.
Maybe this was the wrong thread given the coincidence of what else was released that day by her, perhaps the general thread would be the correct thread.
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Old 06-06-2020, 08:27 AM
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Seeing rumblings today of more possible legal action being taken by Harry. Lots of discussion on Twitter. It involves Dan Wooten (.......)


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Old 06-06-2020, 08:43 AM
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Seeing rumblings today of more possible legal action being taken by Harry. Lots of discussion on Twitter. It involves Dan Wooten (.....)


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i saw a Byline Investigates post, I don’t really read that website, it is highly problematic imo to say the least.

If Harry is thinking of filing another lawsuit he really is an idiot- and it makes my fear that he is being egged on by someone to file all these lawsuits- I can not imagine he has that much money to sustain all of them, so who is paying the lawyer fees?.
Another very important note, suing everyone and their mother because you suspect they talked is not the answer (seriously royal aides have always talked and talked for money, nothing new about that!) if you want a quiet life- stop suing and just go! Because otherwise it makes you look super messy and problematic to the super elite rich people you want to attract, and they will eventually distance themselves if you become too messy.



Lastly, will he sue also Meghan five friends and other friends too who spoke to the press and leaked information?
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