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Old 01-31-2020, 07:00 AM
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When are the Sussexes' suing 'all the time'? The Sun case was from months ago, as was the notice to sue the Sunday Mail over the letter. The wildlife photo thing was a complaint to the supervising body of the British Press, not a law suit. And I'm sure drones looking in your home (which was about a year ago) is something most people would not stand for.
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Old 01-31-2020, 11:37 AM
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I think it's fair to say that Harry and Meghan are fast developing a reputation as serial complainers whether that be through legal filings or complaints to the ruling/governing board of the British Press or others. I'd also say that they're being labeled more and more as notoriously thin-skinned and that certainly seems to be an accurate description.
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Old 01-31-2020, 12:22 PM
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I may be off base on this but it was my understanding that the reason Harry got upset is that it alluded to the elephant being drugged and tethered in order for Harry to get a good photograph which is false.

The animals at the time were being relocated as a part of a conservation project.

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Old 01-31-2020, 12:51 PM
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When are the Sussexes' suing 'all the time'? The Sun case was from months ago, as was the notice to sue the Sunday Mail over the letter. The wildlife photo thing was a complaint to the supervising body of the British Press, not a law suit. And I'm sure drones looking in your home (which was about a year ago) is something most people would not stand for.
This wasn't a lawsuit it was a complaint to the IPSO....which is notorious for siding with the papers...they probably knew it was a long shot thought it was worth trying to hold the papers accountable for the lies they spread.

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I think it's fair to say that Harry and Meghan are fast developing a reputation as serial complainers whether that be through legal filings or complaints to the ruling/governing board of the British Press or others. I'd also say that they're being labeled more and more as notoriously thin-skinned and that certainly seems to be an accurate description.
It boggles my mind that so many people say that they should just ignore the lies that are being spread about them and just accept the bullying behavior.

There were thousands (5 digits not 4) of articles written about Meghan with approx 75% of them being negative and mostly based on lies and untruths or harassment because she doesn't a relationship with certain people. People start to believe these lies and then her reputation is questioned all so some can make money. Yet no one can produce true negative behavior that Meghan displayed to justify it. (No affairs, no hanging out with pedophiles) Rest assure it happens to others as well but most don't have the finances or strength to fight back.

Luckily the Sussexes do and are trying to hold media accountable (as much as they can) because right now it is out of control. I'm glad they are doing as much as they can with the lawsuits.
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Old 01-31-2020, 01:35 PM
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This wasn't a lawsuit it was a complaint to the IPSO....which is notorious for siding with the papers...they probably knew it was a long shot thought it was worth trying to hold the papers accountable for the lies they spread.



It boggles my mind that so many people say that they should just ignore the lies that are being spread about them and just accept the bullying behavior.

There were thousands (5 digits not 4) of articles written about Meghan with approx 75% of them being negative and mostly based on lies and untruths or harassment because she doesn't a relationship with certain people. People start to believe these lies and then her reputation is questioned all so some can make money. Yet no one can produce true negative behavior that Meghan displayed to justify it. (No affairs, no hanging out with pedophiles) Rest assure it happens to others as well but most don't have the finances or strength to fight back.

Luckily the Sussexes do and are trying to hold media accountable (as much as they can) because right now it is out of control. I'm glad they are doing as much as they can with the lawsuits.
Because it's not good for them. Because it is not giving them peace of mind. Because there is no point. Because the only way to stay out of the papers is to ignore the papers. There is virtually no point in doing any of this.
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Old 01-31-2020, 01:50 PM
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It would make sense to me for Harry to file this with IPSO if he felt that the wrong information was being put across to the public and alluded that an animal was being mistreated by being drugged and tethered for the purpose of a picture.

Its not a good look for an Ambassador for United for Wildlife and actually working with conservationists in Africa to protect these animals. So, perhaps in a nutshell, it wasn't just about Harry himself with this complaint.

Just thoughts.
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Old 01-31-2020, 07:36 PM
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That's not exactly what the complaint was about.



There's no doubt that the elephant was drugged and tethered. His complaint said as much.



His complaint was that the paper claimed that the cropping of the photo deliberately obscured the tethering, making the photo seem more interesting.

In his complaint he said he wasn't trying to hide the tethering: "A description and video of the tranquillising and tethering process was also on the website of the conservation organisation he was working with in Malawi, and his Instagram post had linked back to the website, he said."
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Old 01-31-2020, 07:39 PM
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Thanks for the clarification, hel. Much appreciated.
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Old 01-31-2020, 09:17 PM
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That's not exactly what the complaint was about.



There's no doubt that the elephant was drugged and tethered. His complaint said as much.



His complaint was that the paper claimed that the cropping of the photo deliberately obscured the tethering, making the photo seem more interesting.

In his complaint he said he wasn't trying to hide the tethering: "A description and video of the tranquillising and tethering process was also on the website of the conservation organisation he was working with in Malawi, and his Instagram post had linked back to the website, he said."
Would not an explanation given by Harry, or the organisation, to clarify the tethering and showing the full picture have been more positive than to sue?
One could argue that making a picture more interesting could encourage more of the public to read the article and support the cause.
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Old 02-01-2020, 12:29 AM
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Well according to a "source" there's a whole legion of reporters camped outside their house in Canada - something that wouldn't have been allowed at Frogmore. So I don't see how this is easier. And I'm reading much worse about Meghan that I won't put up here. They'd do better to go after those publications.
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Old 02-01-2020, 07:05 AM
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Somebody mentioned Tom Cruise earlier in this thread as an example, he used to sue the papers for everything, having basically unlimited money resources and top lawyers etc. But after some time, he stopped, realizing that every action/counterstatement will result in even more headlines, eventually public opinion will turn against you (Harry: elephant) and it's a never ending circle of headlines, reporters waiting for the next story etc.
He stopped, kept his head down with all his private issues etc, and concentrated on what is best at: acting. There is hardly any story about him anymore in the papers, and his movies are super successful blockbusters. People got bored with Cruise, but they respect what he does.



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Old 02-01-2020, 07:34 AM
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Well according to a "source" there's a whole legion of reporters camped outside their house in Canada - something that wouldn't have been allowed at Frogmore. So I don't see how this is easier. And I'm reading much worse about Meghan that I won't put up here. They'd do better to go after those publications.
what sort of things are being said about Meghan? THey are not doing anything at present.. have hardly been seen since going to Canada other than Meg's 2 visits to charities there. I honestly can't see what there is to say about them. However I agree that the more they push back, and sue or complian, the more the media will tlak about them and those members of the public who don't like them, will have more meaty stuff to talk about...
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Old 02-01-2020, 09:40 AM
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Local shops are banning the press from even entering their facilities now. It is non Canadian media there. Eventually they will leave once they realize no one is cooperating with them.

As for this complaint this denied months ago. It would seem before their lawsuit with The Mail on Sunday was even announced. The media is just picking up on it and running wild. Also funny enough the whole picture with the elephant showed tied is on the official royal website. So no like Harry was hiding it.

The press was just being the press.
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Old 02-01-2020, 09:49 AM
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Local shops are banning the press from even entering their facilities now. It is non Canadian media there. Eventually they will leave once they realize no one is cooperating with them.

As for this complaint this denied months ago. It would seem before their lawsuit with The Mail on Sunday was even announced. The media is just picking up on it and running wild. Also funny enough the whole picture with the elephant showed tied is on the official royal website. So no like Harry was hiding it.

The press was just being the press.
I saw that one business posted a sign telling the media they could not enter...and I'm guessing you know about the boat guy who refused to give the press a tour.

I'm guessing there are more we don't know about.


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Old 02-01-2020, 10:00 AM
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I feel rather sorry for the people in what I gather used to be a very quiet and peaceful area. The idea of some of the most famous people on the planet moving into your community sounds exciting, but it must actually be a nightmare
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Old 02-01-2020, 11:06 AM
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Somebody mentioned Tom Cruise earlier in this thread as an example, he used to sue the papers for everything, having basically unlimited money resources and top lawyers etc. But after some time, he stopped, realizing that every action/counterstatement will result in even more headlines, eventually public opinion will turn against you (Harry: elephant) and it's a never ending circle of headlines, reporters waiting for the next story etc.
He stopped, kept his head down with all his private issues etc, and concentrated on what is best at: acting. There is hardly any story about him anymore in the papers, and his movies are super successful blockbusters. People got bored with Cruise, but they respect what he does.



The secret is not to generate interest in the person, but in the serious work you do.

Unless you need the interest in the person to generate work. Or for your ego.
So, we will provably see even more of those two taking legal action ;-)
because without royal duties there life will be rather boring for the media
and if they need the limelight, like some believe, will need to produce some headlines.
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Old 02-01-2020, 11:54 AM
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We haven’t seen Meghan in weeks but that hasn’t stopped non stop articles and commentary. It is what it is. This lawsuit is ongoing.
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Old 02-01-2020, 05:43 PM
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The media will disappear once no one cares anymore. Which is faster than everyone things. There are bigger fish to fry. Of course then they will want them for their foundation. So on and on.
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Old 02-01-2020, 06:06 PM
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The media will disappear once no one cares anymore. Which is faster than everyone things. There are bigger fish to fry. Of course then they will want them for their foundation. So on and on.
This. They want the media gone.......until they don't. We shall see how it goes, especially if it's true that they want to move to LA
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Old 02-01-2020, 06:11 PM
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We havenít seen Meghan in weeks but that hasnít stopped non stop articles and commentary. It is what it is. This lawsuit is ongoing.

I think it's why the stories are coming, it's a means to get Meghan to drop the lawsuit. Deploying Thomas Markle is the tell when he threaten everything will come out if compelled by Meghan's lawyers to take the stand. It also says I think DM lawyers have not formally subpoenaed him. Markle was repeating media talking points; he was practically giving testimony in interviews (this way he is not subject to cross examination at the moment). Dragging Doria into that interview was another low blow by the media. No Meghan should stay the course in this matter.
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