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Old 05-03-2019, 08:06 AM
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The article is speculative , but Meghan strikes me as someone who would dress her children differently from the Cambridge kids.
I actually share that opinion (i.e., that Meghan will likely dress her child differently than the Cambridge's). And, I think it's entirely fair to say that you agree with the speculation.

muriel was treating the article as fact (a fact that she was "not surprised" by), rather than mere speculation with which she agrees. It's an important distinction.
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Old 05-03-2019, 08:34 AM
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of course they would manage. But sharing a birthday is hard enough as a little kid, without sharing it with your very famous cousin. Oh its your birthday, I forgot, I was busy listening to the bells for Charlotte. You know she is going to be princess royal one day. And you....well.

Sharing a birthday when you are an adult is no big deal. As a kid it always feels better to have your own big day. When you get to be the star alone.

This (bolded by me) sounds like taunting a child that has not even been born yet. Remember, if the baby is a boy, he will be Earl of Dumburton, and I think eventually Duke of Sussex, and his kids will be Ladies and Lords, and do not need LPs for that. On the other hand, like Princess Royal Anne, Princess Charlotte's kids will not have titles unless an LP is issued or she marries a titled man.
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Old 05-03-2019, 08:39 AM
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This (bolded by me) sounds like taunting a child that has not even been born yet. Remember, if the baby is a boy, he will be Earl of Dumburton, and I think eventually Duke of Sussex, and his kids will be Ladies and Lords, and do not need LPs for that. On the other hand, like Princess Royal Anne, her kids will not have titles unless an LP is issued or she marries a titled man.
Very good point if I may say so. I presume you're comparing Princess Charlotte with the Princess Royal here.

I really don't think any member of the BRF play the "my (title, style, order, gong, status, precedence and whatever else one may want to add to the list) is better than yours is. " game. I'd like to think they're above that kind of thing.
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Old 05-03-2019, 08:50 AM
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Jan Moir wrote an entire article whining about something we already know is happening? She getting notified when Meghan goes into labour. She will get the announcement when she baby is born. There is a media moment in Windsor a few days later with so we will see the new happy family. What more does she want? Play by plays of Meghan's contractions and a live feed of the birth?
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of course they would manage. But sharing a birthday is hard enough as a little kid, without sharing it with your very famous cousin. Oh its your birthday, I forgot, I was busy listening to the bells for Charlotte. You know she is going to be princess royal one day. And you....well.

Sharing a birthday when you are an adult is no big deal. As a kid it always feels better to have your own big day. When you get to be the star alone.


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This (bolded by me) sounds like taunting a child that has not even been born yet. Remember, if the baby is a boy, he will be Earl of Dumburton, and I think eventually Duke of Sussex, and his kids will be Ladies and Lords, and do not need LPs for that. On the other hand, like Princess Royal Anne, Princess Charlotte's kids will not have titles unless an LP is issued or she marries a titled man.

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Very good point if I may say so. I presume you're comparing Princess Charlotte with the Princess Royal here.

I really don't think any member of the BRF play the "my (title, style, order, gong, status, precedence and whatever else one may want to add to the list) is better than yours is. " game. I'd like to think they're above that kind of thing.

Yes, I was comparing Princess Charlotte with the Princess Royal to make a point.
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:06 AM
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This (bolded by me) sounds like taunting a child that has not even been born yet. Remember, if the baby is a boy, he will be Earl of Dumburton, and I think eventually Duke of Sussex, and his kids will be Ladies and Lords, and do not need LPs for that. On the other hand, like Princess Royal Anne, Princess Charlotte's kids will not have titles unless an LP is issued or she marries a titled man.
I am not taunting a child. Its a reality, that William's kids are always going to be more prominent then Harry's kids are going to be. The only daughter of King William V is going to be better known then the Earl of Dumbarton. And if the baby is a girl, then just like Charlotte she will not have titles either for her or her kids. Its nice for Baby Sussex to have their own birthday, so they don't have to share the spotlight with the future Princess Royal. Whether Charlotte's kids will have a title or not means nothing. The Princess Royal, and a senior working royal, will forever out rank the 'earl of Dumbarton' or Lady Mountbatten-Windsor. Both in the general hierarchy and in the public eye as well.


And no I don't think the family would favor Charlotte over her cousin. Its not about favoring. Its about sucking having to share the spotlight. Any kid who shared a birthday with a sibling or close cousin, or Christmas, knows it can suck. You don't get to be the center of attention for the day.
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:23 AM
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I am not taunting a child. Its a reality, that William's kids are always going to be more prominent then Harry's kids are going to be. The only daughter of King William V is going to be better known then the Earl of Dumbarton. And if the baby is a girl, then just like Charlotte she will not have titles either for her or her kids.

That is not entirely true as Harry's child, if he is a boy, will probably become HRH Prince xxx of Sussex eventually and, later, HRH The Duke of Sussex. If it is a girl, she will eventually become HRH Princess xxx of Sussex. I don't think King Charles III (or George VII) will keep Harry's children as Earl of Dumbarton or Lady xx Mountbatten-Windsor.



Harry's children will be in a similar position to Beatrice and Eugenie and, when George is King, they will be in a similar position to that of the Kents and the Gloucesters today.
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Old 05-03-2019, 10:05 AM
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Does anyone know exactly how far along in pregnancy Meghan was during Eugenie's wedding? There was supposed to be a scan that morning. I have read 12 weeks and then 11 weeks and now 8 weeks. Huge difference in reporting. I do not believe that the child has already been born and not announced as if that were true it would indicate the Queen and Charles are liars as it was published that Meghan going into labor would be known. I do not believe the Queen would lie about this to her citizens. Just curious and to correct a debate at the club.
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Old 05-03-2019, 10:09 AM
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muriel was treating the article as fact (a fact that she was "not surprised" by), rather than mere speculation with which she agrees. It's an important distinction.
Quite right. I have no doubt that Meghan will not be dressing her clothes in the very traditional way that the Cambridge children are dressed for formal occasions. Its not a criticism, but a comment based on her own current style.
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Old 05-03-2019, 10:17 AM
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One item of clothing I think we can pretty much guarantee will be very traditional is the Honiton christening gown replica of the original gown commissioned by Queen Victoria in 1840.
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Old 05-03-2019, 10:19 AM
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Quite right. I have no doubt that Meghan will not be dressing her clothes in the very traditional way that the Cambridge children are dressed for formal occasions. Its not a criticism, but a comment based on her own current style.
It’s likely gonna be a mix of traditional and modern.

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Old 05-03-2019, 10:42 AM
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[QUOTE=Winnie;2217146]Does anyone know exactly how far along in pregnancy Meghan was during Eugenie's wedding? There was supposed to be a scan that morning. I have read 12 weeks and then 11 weeks and now 8 weeks. Huge difference in reporting. I do not believe that the child has already been born and not announced as if that were true it would indicate the Queen and Charles are liars as it was published that Meghan going into labor would be known. I do not believe the Queen would lie about this to her citizens. Just curious and to correct a debate at the club.[/QUOTE
We,of course, don't know her due date. And, many posters on this thread have contributed the knowledge that a 12 week scan can be done anytime from 10 to 13 weeks. For what it's worth, I would not fly across the world unless I was 12 weeks. If Megan was 12 weeks on the day they announced her due date would have been April 29th
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Old 05-03-2019, 10:53 AM
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To correctly even begin to calculate anything related to Meghan's pregnancy and due date, we'd also have to be given the information of the first day of her last menstrual period. No one, and I mean *no* one has the right to ask that question. Its between Meghan and her OB/GYN.

As we're still going in circles about due dates and scans and the most important piece of information to figure it all out is missing, its like a rocking chair. A whole lot of action that gets us absolutely nowhere at all.
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That is not entirely true as Harry's child, if he is a boy, will probably become HRH Prince xxx of Sussex eventually and, later, HRH The Duke of Sussex. If it is a girl, she will eventually become HRH Princess xxx of Sussex. I don't think King Charles III (or George VII) will keep Harry's children as Earl of Dumbarton or Lady xx Mountbatten-Windsor.



Harry's children will be in a similar position to Beatrice and Eugenie and, when George is King, they will be in a similar position to that of the Kents and the Gloucesters today.
So, basically, just like Countessmeout said, William's children will be "more prominent" than Harry's. And it's not a slight, it's just a fact - like William and Harry have always been more (for the lack of better word) important to the public than Beatrice and Eugenie. I noticed that a lot of Americans have problems with that idea, but that's just how it is in the BRF. Children of the (future) monarch will always be more interesting.

I wouldn't be so sure about Charles wanting H&M's kids to have the HRH title - if it's true and he wants to slim down the working royal family, he might suggest it'll be less messy to keep the kids styled as a children of a Duke. Not to mention I could see Harry not wanting his children to have the HRH, as it would allow them more freedom in the future.

Also, tbh, I always thought Bea and Eugenie actually won the lottery here - many of the same priviledges, not as much responsibilities.
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Old 05-03-2019, 12:24 PM
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Ha! The "Town Cryer" is officially in Windsor.

I say Baby Sussex comes on Saturday, May 4th.
Jedi Baby: may the Force be with You
Yes, and at first it seemed to passers-by that the House of Windsor's self-appointed Town Crier was actually going to make an important announcement, not one telling us what we already know. Omid Scobie offered a video:
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I too vote for Jedi Baby Sussex!

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I can imagine that the restaurants and pubs in Windsor are doing some excellent business these days. Seems almost like a global press convention has descended there eh?
And when they arrive in Windsor, getting off the train, visitors are greeted with this photo blow-up on a huge placard:
https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/...ment-photo.jpg

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of course they would manage. But sharing a birthday is hard enough as a little kid, without sharing it with your very famous cousin... As a kid it always feels better to have your own big day...
I think that's true. I'm glad the Sussex baby was not born on May 2, although as noted, everyone would surely survive and manage regardless of where the birth date falls. I'm rooting for lift-off, or rather touchdown on May 4!!! May the Force be with Meghan & her little lamb!

As we know, Meghan shares a birthday with Barack Obama and with the Queen Mother, Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon.
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[...] there has been a rise in home births as a result of decades of overly eager in intervention by doctors.

And even IF Meghan gives birth at Windsor, why is it reversing a trend? Why is how to give birth a "trend" at all? If anything, the only "trend" should be each woman should do what they feel comfortable in consultation with their doctors.
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Old 05-03-2019, 03:00 PM
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There is no requirement to be 'transparent' as to where she plans to give birth. That is the only thing we don't know...otherwise they've been pretty open about the rest of the details. Announcement will be made and a photo call at some point after.


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It is Meghans choice to keep the birth private,it will all come out eventually because the birth certificate will state the place of birth. All I am saying is that there is a balance to be found, she is not a private citizen, she is a member of the British Royal Family married to a much beloved prince, I just think they have made so much fuss about being private they have caused more fuss. If for example the due date is 1st May they could have said mid May and removed the pressure of everybody asking. It was Meghan that said end of April beginning of May.
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I'm not sure why, but I'm not feeling the excitement at all. Maybe it's because I know there's going to be a delay and we will "see" the baby a week or more after the birth (if we will, because right now I won't be even surprised when we get a picture of a foot or a hand), or I'm just so over royal reporters and constant arguing in the fandom that I can't find it in myself... I'm not sure, but last year's wait was far nicer.
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Is it a requirement that the birth of the royal baby has to be announced on the same day that the child is born?
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